Americans committed the worst genocide in world history

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity

 

You two are really trying to change this whole topic. It is supposedly about American's being responsible for the WORST genocide in history. It's full of nonsense.

Originally posted by MilesTeg

 

I can't, man. I wish I could. I think it's mostly due to what children are being taught as "history" in school. I didn't wake up to it until I had a thirst for knowledge on the subject. We used biological warfare, enslavement, and ultimately caused the scattering and destruction of a proud and beautiful people. I was angry at my teachers for a moment, then I realized that they thought what they were teaching was the God's honest truth. I promise you, my children will know the truth of what happened the tribes of America. And they will know the truth about Columbus as well. Gotta let the kids know what really happened, and to not trust in just one book. Go read a few on the subject.

Originally posted by UnifiedSerenity

 

You two are really trying to change this whole topic. It is supposedly about American's being responsible for the WORST genocide in history. It's full of nonsense.

How is blaming the Portuguese and "NOT Americans" not a lie? The 30 different wars that I quoted all happened under AMERICAN PRESIDENTS, not Portuguese or Italian ones.

Originally posted by Manhandler12

 

It seems this thread has gone from posting information that is readily available at any public library if one cares or bothers to look. There is no conspiracy, no cover up, no avoiding the truth. It's just an attempt to point out known historical facts and to use it as a platform to spread their point of view under the guise of actually making some sort of point. Which it really doesn't.

Then they'll just accuse others who don't agree with their narrow and misleading views of being ignorant of the truth.

Originally posted by Leonidas
Europeans were in North America hundreds of years before America was formed in the late 18th Century. Yes, the Americans did continue to treat the Natives horribly, but the damage was pretty much done and finished by the 19th Century.

Originally posted by UMayBRite!

 

The highest estimate in the Wikipedia source for the U.S. was 18 million. Plenty of settlers died from the epidemics that killed most of the Native Americans; the settlers just tended to have higher immunity. Only in a few cases was disease used as a deliberate weapon.

Save your breath.
I honestly don't think the OP cares for facts.
I've enjoyed this thread as an example of how to reduce a topic down to the ridiculous.

Originally posted by Walkswithfist

 

I honestly don't think the OP cares for facts.
I've enjoyed this thread as an example of how to reduce a topic down to the ridiculous.

Attacks and oppression by the Iroquois, epidemics, and alcoholism decimated the Indians in a couple of decades.This was in spite of the efforts of the Moravian Missionaries to help them adapt to the New World.

The Moravians pacifism placed them and their Native American converts in a difficult position during the violent second half of the 18th century. In 1781, David Zeisberger was taken to Detroit for questioning by the British. Although he was eventually released, the Indians he had converted and offered shelter at Gnaddenhuetten, Ohio, were murdered by members of the Pennsylvania militia in his absence.

Originally posted by Damian65
OP, you are welcome to your self loathing....that is fine.

The vast number of native Americans were killed by disease from just coming into contact with the Spaniards. When actual colonization began, the damage had already been done.

My father's side of the family got here in the 1600's from Germany and settled in Eastern PA before moving down into Virginia....sorry, I wasn't around then so I accept no blame.

I've learned about the US expansion West and all the that transpired in classes on the topic in the public school system. I wonder if the threads author is aware of just how much of this is actually taught in our public schools?

"To promote this disposition to exchange lands, which they have to spare and we want, for necessaries, which we have to spare and they want, we shall push our trading uses, and be glad to see the good and influential individuals among them run in debt, because we observe that when these debts get beyond what the individuals can pay, they become willing to lop them off by a cession of lands."

Originally posted by kenpos12

 

Will this self loathing lower the price of bread or my mortgage? How will this help my children find work or get a better education? Everything that I've read so far in this thread isn't anything new nor are there any Earth shattering details being revealed. I've read details now posted by the thread author on totally unrelated items to the threads original premise.

I remember many years ago, actor Marlon Brando refused to accept an Oscar award because of the plight of Native American Indians. He said America was "Turning a blind eye" to the situation that was still happening to these people. It looks like some still are.

They are robbing us, you and me. They come to us, the people and say "We need a trillion dollars to bail-out the rich guys because if they lose a few cents on the dollar, the whole world will collapse."

Our kids or grandkids will have 2 choices: a) they will need to repay the humongous amounts of money somebody else had borrowed, or, b) they will need to suffer the consequences of not repaying it. Which political party or jokster in "Congress" will support either one of these options?

Taking the land from the Natives was basically a massive redistribution of wealth. Whenever the government "redistributes" it grows in power, in particular the power to take back away from you what it has given you.

Originally posted by XxNightAngelusxX

 

My president and his buck-buddies are doing this. NOT us.
They treat us the very same way... we can barely afford to live anymore.
We're in the very same boat. And if you haven't noticed, Bilderberg meetings consist of leaders from all established countries. Our government isn't the only one calling the shots and screwing everyone's lives up.
Many Colonials made peace with the Indians, and planned to keep it that way...
Pointing the finger is your first mistake, and it makes everything else in your argument invalid.

You are no doubt going to get inundated with pro-MURRCAN posts by the red necks who are "proud to be MURRCAN"!!!!! YEEEEEHAW!!!!