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Originally posted by colbe
You are helping sodomites remain in their disbelief.
Originally posted by colbe
I look at the love, the messages from Heaven are beautiful.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
reply to post by colbe
NO NO NO .. John Leary has been declared false by the Catholic Church as well.
Colbe ... please ... just STOP. You are doing more harm than good for your 'cause'.
Learn from your Maria Divine Mercy mistake.
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by colbe
You are helping sodomites remain in their disbelief.
No. Actually YOU are. I'm not going to pump a bunch of FALSE messages in their direction in the hopes that they will latch on and buy into them. If you want to help people then pray for them and give them truth .. not fake messages that have been condemned by the very church you claim allegiance to.
Originally posted by colbe
I look at the love, the messages from Heaven are beautiful.
Nothing you have posted is from heaven. They are all condemned.
edit on 7/2/2013 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by colbe
Name the error in the OP FlyersFan, you can't.
you look foolish. .
Originally posted by colbe
You lied about Conyers.
• March 19, 1991 - In a March letter to his fellow U.S. bishops, Archbishop James P. Lyke, OFM, has asked that priest-led pilgrimages from their dioceses to the site of alleged Marian apparitions in Conyers be discontinued. [ more ]
• September 19, 1991 - In a statement distributed to the priests of the Atlanta archdiocese, Archbishop James P. Lyke, OFM, has provided guidance on reported apparitions of Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary in Rockdale County. [ more ]
You did the same on Garabandal.
Canon law has been changed, people can share private revelation. Go look it up.
Canon Law and the Obligation of Obedience by the Faithful
As the bishops are entrusted with the responsibilities of discerning and ruling on apparitions as stemming from the nature of their office, so there are fundamental responsibilities on the part of the members of the diocese. First, they are to obey their bishops when the latter act as Christ's representatives (canon 212), that is, when they teach formally or establish binding discipline as pastors of a particular church. This obedience owed to the bishops in their capacity as leaders of particular churches is intended to promote the common good. Canon 753 also speaks of the "religious assent" owed to the bishops' teaching authority, which means a special quality of respect and gratitude, along with critical awareness and good will. Hence, there should be intelligent obedience to ecclesiastical authority in the matter of alleged apparitions.
Take the good from the messages.
Originally posted by colbe
Only Traditional Morality Can Defend against Civil Unions
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by colbe
You lied about Conyers.
WRONG.
The Problems with the Conyers Messages
Official Church Statements
• March 19, 1991 - In a March letter to his fellow U.S. bishops, Archbishop James P. Lyke, OFM, has asked that priest-led pilgrimages from their dioceses to the site of alleged Marian apparitions in Conyers be discontinued. [ more ]
• September 19, 1991 - In a statement distributed to the priests of the Atlanta archdiocese, Archbishop James P. Lyke, OFM, has provided guidance on reported apparitions of Christ and the Blessed Virgin Mary in Rockdale County. [ more ]
You did the same on Garabandal.
WRONG. NOTHING has been said by the church to refute the findings of the previous bishops on Garabandal. THREE TIMES it's been declared FALSE. And you really should learn how the Catholic church runs. Each new bishop doesn't have to say anything or make pronouncements. That would be absurd. The previous pronouncements stand unless the current bishop declares them wrong. AND HE HAS NOT.
Church Statement on Garabandal
The Problems with Garabandal
Official Church Statement on Garbandal translated to English
And while we are at it. JOHN LEARY .. FALSE VISIONARY.
Bishops Statement on John Leary
Canon law has been changed, people can share private revelation. Go look it up.
I did. I suggest you do as well. Nothing has changed. The CHURCH DECIDES. You are supposed to listen to what they say and obey. Otherwise, you are a protestant
Norms and Processes for Judging Private Revelations
Explanation about the Norms and Processes for Judging Private Revelations
Canon Law in regards to Private Revelation
Discernment for the lay faithful
Canon Law and the Obligation of Obedience by the Faithful
As the bishops are entrusted with the responsibilities of discerning and ruling on apparitions as stemming from the nature of their office, so there are fundamental responsibilities on the part of the members of the diocese. First, they are to obey their bishops when the latter act as Christ's representatives (canon 212), that is, when they teach formally or establish binding discipline as pastors of a particular church. This obedience owed to the bishops in their capacity as leaders of particular churches is intended to promote the common good. Canon 753 also speaks of the "religious assent" owed to the bishops' teaching authority, which means a special quality of respect and gratitude, along with critical awareness and good will. Hence, there should be intelligent obedience to ecclesiastical authority in the matter of alleged apparitions.
Hear that Colbe, ... Canon 753 ... you MUST obey what the Bishops say in these matters. Otherwise, you are breaking Canon law. The bishops say that these 'visionaries' that you are pushing are fake and that NONE of the messages are to be pushed.
Take the good from the messages.
:shk: There can be 'no good' from false apparitions. Don't you get it yet? These people, and the demons that are running through them, use bits and pieces of good and sprinkle them in with a bunch of bad. When you go tripping through their 'messages' trying to sort it out, you always get the residue of the bad. In your case, the bad residue is excessive pride in thinking you are smarter than the catholic church that you supposedly belong to, and excessive pride in thinking you are smarter than the theologian experts. That's why these are dangerous. That's why YOUR CHURCH has told you, through Canon Law 753, NOT to go near them.
Originally posted by colbe[/
1991? You repeat again on a previous bishop.
Why did you go to Medjugorje when the Bishops there said no to Mary appearing?
Originally posted by colbe
Your attacks on current private revelation and me personally for as long as I have posted are not helping bring others to the faith,
The Bishop rejects the messages of Holy Love.
The two I posted, I did not see error in them
You pursue this with a vengeance, you went to apparition sites and your prayers were not answered as you wished FF.
Originally posted by colbe
www.jabezinaction.blogspot.com...
Originally posted by colbe
FlyersFan,
Your attacks on current private revelation and me personally for as long as I have posted are not helping bring others to the faith, only confusing them and in this thread gives those who deny the faith and the grave sin of sodomy, validation, this is no good.
The very idea seems initially shocking. The full answer comes from other sources about the two men featured, St. Serge and St. Bacchus, two Roman soldiers who became Christian martyrs.
While the pairing of saints, particularly in the early church, was not unusual, the association of these two men was regarded as particularly close. Severus of Antioch in the sixth century explained that "we should not separate in speech [Serge and Bacchus] who were joined in life." More bluntly, in the definitive 10th century Greek account of their lives, St. Serge is openly described as the "sweet companion and lover" of St. Bacchus.
Originally posted by markosity1973
I do not pretend to know FF's stance on the issue, ...
Originally posted by FlyersFan
Originally posted by colbe
www.jabezinaction.blogspot.com...
You are kidding, right? So someone starts an obscure website and they claim visions/locutions and you automatically buy into it and start pushing them? Comeon ... use some discernment. Remember Lourdes ... .it was authentic but hundreds of false ones appeared at the same time. It was an evil trick to take away from the authentic. Same thing is happening here.
FOR THOSE READING THE THREAD AND ARE INTERESTED ....
List of recent Marian Apparitions (and their messages) Deemed Worthy of Belief by the Catholic Church
Our Lady of Guadalupe; Our Lady of Good Success; Our Lady of the Miraculous Medal; Our Lady of La Salette; Our Lady of Lourdes; Our Lady of Knock; Our Lady of Fatima
Other Recent Marian Apparitions Deemed Worthy of Belief by the Catholic Church
Our Lady of Pontmain; Our Lady of Beauraing; Our Lady of Banneux; Our Lady of Akita; Our Lady of Laus
Suggested link to those interested in these matters -
ATS Guide to False Apparitions
You will notice that most everyone Colbe is pushing ... Maria Divine Mercy, John Leary, Garabandal, Conyers, Emmitsburg, the fake visionary from this thread named Maureen Sweeny, etc etc have been declared not to be authentic by the Catholic Church. Stick to what has been authenticated. It helps weed out the liars.
edit on 7/4/2013 by FlyersFan because: (no reason given)
Sorry FlyersFan, you fail to see the love and the faith in the messages