The Zimmerman Trial

reply to post by FlyersFan


The animation has been light enhanced to aid the jury. If it was that clear on the night, Good wouldn't have had the least bit of doubt about what he saw while he was out there. And a lot can happen in the 10 seconds or so between the time he went indoors, and the time he looked outside after the gunshot.

TV Cameras just showed the prosecution table. They don't look happy. (Bernie has the 'stash, right? ) And the young guy (Guy?) looked intense and ticked.

Originally posted by IvanAstikov
reply to post by Logarock

 

There is not one scrap of evidence that backs up Zimmerman's claim that Trayvon's fist ever hit his nose. Witnesses to snapshots and aural snippets of the fight are not confirmation of what happened at the beginning and the end, the 2 most important parts of the struggle. However it started, we know how it finished, and Zimmerman needs a very good reason to be in that position. Claiming it was because he was an ineffective but good-hearted NW guy just doesn't cut it, and if Sanford police station had any concept of shame, they would pack up shop and close for good, before they are shut down by others.

edit on 12-7-2013 by IvanAstikov because: (no reason given)

Once again, guilty until proven innocent. Welcome to these United Socialist States of Amerika.

Take away everything that GZ has said, and what you have left is not enough evidence to convict for murder 2, and indeed more than likely not enough evidence to convict for manslaughter as well.

Take away all the emotional bs, take away the misinformation and intentional misrepresentations of who Trayvon was, take away all the media bias, take away the Fed's involvement and you are still left with insufficient evidence.

What you are left with is evidence that supports more than denies self-defense.

Originally posted by boymonkey74
reply to post by RickKilgannon

 

OMG cheers

Do they put all big cases on telly?

Not all of them, but they do put a fair amount of them on. The first one I remember watching was the OJ Simpson trial back in 1995, I can remember watching the verdict come down sitting in class in High School.

Originally posted by IvanAstikov
If it was that clear on the night, Good wouldn't have had the least bit of doubt about what he saw while he was out there.

What are you talking about? Good didn't have any doubt. He never expressed doubt.
He was very clear. Martin was on top ... ground and pound ... blows raining down on Zimmerman.
No doubt.

reply to post by FlyersFan


Well he is blowing their case of trying to get the jury to connect the dots in their head out of the water. That's about the only way they could hope for a conviction, was to get the jury to make stuff up in their head based on his lead.

reply to post by RickKilgannon


We got to watch the verdict in class too. Out of curiosity, did your class cheer when it was announced?

reply to post by TKDRL

Agreed.

JUST IN - The in court reporters are saying that Tracy "juice" Martin has been looking at his cell phone during the defense closing statements ....

reply to post by RickKilgannon


I was in junior high at the time of the OJ trial. I remember all the people running through the halls jumping and screaming that he was "innocent". That's the day when my faith in the justice system died. It's also the day I realized how much black people stood together no matter what. Which is both commendable and deplorable.

I was called all kinds of honkey and cracker that day for no apparent reason other than they knew a black man had gotten away with murder.

"I bet that eats your cracker ass up, doesn't it?"

MOTF!

The defense has called for 4 1/2 minutes of silence in the court room to show the jury how long Martin had to run home ... his fathers mistress lived only a football field length away .... This is very effective.

Good morning, Fam.

Just tuned in...I'm guessing that the Defense showing the time lasp on the clock as the 'missing time' that was never accounted for?

Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by RickKilgannon

 

We got to watch the verdict in class too. Out of curiosity, did your class cheer when it was announced?

Yeah actually they did, you could hear cheers up and down the hallways of the school. I never thought OJ himself did it but I always and still do believe that he had someone do it. It is interesting about the serial killer guy in Florida, I believe, that was working at her house at the time.

reply to post by Wiz4769

Nothing ever surprises me these days, if Kasey Anthony can be found not guilty, a group can be fooled or pushed into a guilty verdict.

Public pressure of opinion is a force the jury must overcome. Hopefully everyone will.

To be fair, in the Anthony trial, the prosecution didn't prove their case so she should be not guilty.

Nice job with the stop clock. Proves a valid point, he had plenty of time to make it home and made a hot pocket in 4 minutes.

coulda shoulda woulda....... all of this coulda been prevented if..........GZ shoulda done this or that.......If I had been in that situation I woulda..........


All that matters at this point is if there is reasonable doubt in the mind of 1 of those 6 jurors....


I think there is more than enough reasonable doubt for acquittal.

reply to post by RickKilgannon


I always thought it was weird, my whole school was cheering too. I never really understood why though. Personally I don't think he did it, but was involved in some way though.

O Mara's asking what Trayvon was doing for 4 minutes, but if as Zimmerman says, he attacked George because he'd phoned the cops, you'd have thought he'd attack Zimmerman sooner, rather than later. What was he doing... giving the police a chance to try and catch him in the act of beating a man to death with his bare hands and no other weapon?

Originally posted by ButterCookie
Good morning, Fam.

Just tuned in...I'm guessing that the Defense showing the time lasp on the clock as the 'missing time' that was never accounted for?

It was to show that there was 4mins for Trayvon to make it back home. He then finished by asking the jury whether the state showed what Martin was doing for those 4 minutes.

(I think the state will probably try to dress that in their rebuttal statement)

Tweet from WFTV reporter in the courtroom

Kathi Belich, WFTV @KBelichWFTV
The state does not look happy and neither do the Martins. We are in break. #Zimmermanon9

reply to post by IvanAstikov


Waiting for him to get off the phone maybe? If the dispatcher heard him get attacked, they would obviously tell the cops to step on it, and send more than one unit.