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Try to follow the conversation. It is ET on planet earth. Not covering the Universe with this thread. The question is about our planet not whether there is other life out there.
Originally posted by Xaphan
Originally posted by hellobruce
The truth is that there are no aliens or et's, and you cannot handle that.
You seem pretty sure of yourself.
Please, do tell me what it was like exploring the entire universe and seeing every single planet that exists. I'm all ears
Originally posted by bigfootgurl
that people all over the world (how many? thousands? millions?) are being somehow "taken" without their consent - and largely without their knowledge - and subjected to terrifying and painful procedures? Should people be told that this could happen to them at any time and that there is no way for anyone to stop it?
Who is the we you are talking about. IE they would never trust us again. Who is they in that sentence?
Originally posted by ctdannyd
I believe that the main reason is that there have been so many lies, for so long, and at such extremes, that if they come out with the truth, the world would never trust us again (not that we're really all that trusted these days).
Originally posted by xpoq47
Maybe representatives of the visitors have told those in the loop in government that disclosure is not a good thing (maybe they believe it would be harmful to human society, or maybe they have their own selfish reasons) and that they are not prepared to make open contact even if human governments announce alien presence, making disclosure even less attractive to government than if the aliens were willing to come forward and possibly share knowledge.
Is disclosure desirable if the visitors refuse to go public?
Originally posted by concernedcitizen519
reply to post by ILikeStars
LOL, whatever you're smoking I want some.
Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by concernedcitizen519
Well no it is not common knowledge. When asked by me very few people believe in off world beings. Religious people tend to laugh at the idea.
Away from ats its entirely different and I think it would bother more than a few and would destroy many who are firm in their beliefs.
Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by skyblueworld
Until these so called abductees have something to show proving an abduction then these are all just stories too. People tell lies for many reasons. We wont ever figure out why.
Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by Jobeycool
I always chuckle when I see people who believe in angels and demons and scoff at aliens.
Originally posted by mysterioustranger
WHO would you think should be disclosing?
WHO will you accept that discloses?
WHO's proof would prove the disclosure?
WHAT disclosure would be enough?
WHAT disclosure is acceptable in the entire world's eyes?
WHAT disclosure would equal the "final word" once and for all?
WHEN should it be disclosed?
WHEN will your world world believe it?
WHERE do you want this earth-shaking announcement to be made that the entire planet will accept as the "real-deal"?
Finally....HOW in the world do you expect a single or group statement by any reliable government or governments and "got to be true because they said it was" governments to be taken, once and for all, finally at last, here it is...to be taken and accepted as TRUE!?
Look at ATS. Everythings a conspiracy, everythings picked apart.....and the world as we know it....would do the same. No matter what's said and how "disclosed"...1/2 or more of the world, wont believe it, wont accept it, and will spend their time telling you why disclosure cant be real or true.
Thats a lot of WHOS, WHATS, WHENS, WHERES, WHYS and HOWS...and besides....I think disclosure has already happened and is happening right now everywhere. There wont be any 1 announcement by any group that would be believable by everyone once and for all.
Those who dont believe...no amount of proof will ever be enough...and for those DO believe....no amount of proof is necessary.
Originally posted by ImpactoR
But if the cases of MiB were true, encounters with whom sometimes not very human looking, one can conclude it is the aliens that take part in the coverup and they may be even forcing the governments to not disclose their presence or else - extinction of the human race.
Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by skyblueworld
Until these so called abductees have something to show proving an abduction then these are all just stories too. People tell lies for many reasons. We wont ever figure out why.