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Originally posted by CosmicCitizen
reply to post by jimbo999
It looks real but who goes fishing wearing a blue blazer?
Originally posted by All Seeing Eye
I believe that is exactly what it was, a replica towed threw the water with a valve to submerge. The camera does not pan to the right looking to see if it reemerges because, the tow boat would have been seen. The rope was tied about two foot below the surface so it would not be seen or its wake noticed. The tow boat started from a dead stop so no wake would be visible in the area, besides, the rope most likely was 100 foot long..
Originally posted by DaRAGE
That was no whale! Plus I have no doubt that it was massive and seeing it hauling ass at a fast speed due to the wake in the water.
I also don't believe there was another boat or watercraft pulling this thing on a rope as a boat/watercraft would have left it's own wake in front of it.
I really think that big object was a head, but that's a big head....and a weird one too...
But that isn't what caught my eye. It was the lack of motion of this thing being so close to two boats full of screaming Irishmen lol lol. There was also no visible bubbles as it descended. Most air breathers when submerging would leave a trail of bubbles, this didn't, except for the bubbles coming out of the back of its head from the valve that was opened, allowing it to sink.
But, that's just my opinion, its fake.
snap of valve opening and air venting out. Aprox at 58 seconds.
edit on 26-4-2013 by All Seeing Eye because: Edit to add photo
Originally posted by GArnold
Originally posted by jude11
Interesting.
But even more so is the guy fishing in a suit jacket and white shirt.
Is this an Irish thing or is he part of a camera crew that set up a hoax?
Peace
Funny. That was my first thought as well. Not about the "monster" who if it is real I would bet after going on whale watches is most likely just that a whale that has lost it's way. My first thought was who goes fishing with a jacket on and pants like that? The answer is almost no body ever. Would be a cool story if this was a real monster but my guess is this was the tourism board from the local town.edit on 27-4-2013 by GArnold because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ignorant_ape
ok - part 2 of my critique of this
is it a known creature ?
IMHO - no , no known organism which could REASONABLY be credited with making an apperence in loch foyle , has the natural body shape required
my argument - at 0.05 - the " monster hump " is seen at its largest - and has an aspect ratio [ water line length / height ] of 2.85 : 1
ie - assuming for convenience that the height is 1m - the exposed section = 2.85m long
this rules out :
sea turtles - thier shells are relatvly flat
sturgeon - please review known sturgeon
whales -no known wale has a
marine mamals [ dolphins etc ] - lack of fin
marine mamals [ seal / sealion etc ] - no marine mamal has a sufficient girth / length ratio to show this much of its body
sharks - lack of fin
other fishes - no fins and does not match the behaviour of any known fish
squid / octopus - previously unseen behavious - and inconsistent with thier means of locompotion
while almost all the creatures above CAN preform acrobatics and manouvers that put a large portion of thier body out the water - they are ACROBATIC MANOUVERS - inconsistant with the small wake displayed in the vid
plus such acrobatics also reveal head / flipper / fin / fluke details
this vid - shows a lesuirly forward movement - steadily diving - with no other activity - sugesting what is below the surface
so - cryptid or hoax ?
as i show in previous post - a hoax is certainly possible [ PS - i did not include ROVs or such im my analysis - as thiey are expensive - compared to the senario i present - require a support vessel - and ussually an umbilical ]
cryptid ? - i am more inclined to accept the posibility of an oceanic cryptid than any other [ loch foyle has a 28m deep chanel to the atlantic ] but this vid just does not sit right with me
Originally posted by tallcool1
Wow - we have gotten lazy on ATS, First off, if you had bothered to fully read the thread before commenting, you would quit with the guy in a suit comments. That has been explained at least half a dozen times. Second - to me and anyone else who has spent any time near an ocean or a body of water that connects to an ocean (such as Puget Sound in my case), I would say that this is clearly a whale - probably some type of Baleen Whale (like a right whale or gray whale). And BTW, this does look and swim exactly like a whale regardless of what some non coastal "expert" thinks.
This took me all of 15 seconds to find - and looks quite close to the frame that Frogs had on the first page - except that Frogs picture looks like it is slightly more submerged than this one:
Interesting find - but to me, the creature in the video capture doesnt look anything like the whale pic you linked to.
Just my opinion.
I don't know why everything has to be either a hoax or some new cryptid. Believe it or not, there's usually a logical and boring explanation for most mis-interpreted things.
Originally posted by speculativeoptimist
This classic adage came to mind
But yea, the fact that they are filming a movie, a Lynch movie at that, leads me to believe it is a prop of some type, with stiff unnatural movements. But hey, I'm open to crypto potential too.. there's a lot of water out there.
Originally posted by tallcool1
Wow - we have gotten lazy on ATS, First off, if you had bothered to fully read the thread before commenting, you would quit with the guy in a suit comments. That has been explained at least half a dozen times. Second - to me and anyone else who has spent any time near an ocean or a body of water that connects to an ocean (such as Puget Sound in my case), I would say that this is clearly a whale - probably some type of Baleen Whale (like a right whale or gray whale). And BTW, this does look and swim exactly like a whale regardless of what some non coastal "expert" thinks.
This took me all of 15 seconds to find - and looks quite close to the frame that Frogs had on the first page - except that Frogs picture looks like it is slightly more submerged than this one:
I don't know why everything has to be either a hoax or some new cryptid. Believe it or not, there's usually a logical and boring explanation for most mis-interpreted things.
Originally posted by vonclod
it didnt look like natural movement to me at all..looked like something moving at a very constant rate
Originally posted by Knives4eyes
Wow, was this thread a joke and everyone that posted in the thread part of an inside joke?
If you read the youtube comments the author of the video says it was a movie they were filming....if I missed the part that someone pointed out the obvious then I apoligize.
The creator...admits it's a man in a rubber suit being dragged through the water....the suit...is part of the movie.
Way to cyber sleuth ats, hahahaha.
Published on Apr 15, 2013
Was shooting in Lough Foyle when this thing went past us. It was massive. Really don't know what it was. There have been whales in the Lough before so maybe that's what it was but Matthew was closer than we were and says it was no whale. Looks like we have our own Loch Ness Monster?! Any experts out there ?
We're still filming so if it shows up again we'll do our best to get a better shot of it.
Our film's called 'Fishing with David Lynch', which was why I was wearing the suit (a David Lynch costume.)