What is it like being dead for eternity?

reply to post by Kashai


I think one life is plenty enough for every life or a life that could have been complete if not for being imperfect.
Dreams for me would be what happens when i am asleep but my brain never does sleep.

To be free of bills, taxes, angry people.......I'll take that blissful sleep. Only one problem. Someone will invent a time machine which will make me relive parts of my life. Not fair.

Originally posted by Kashai
"There is no room for eternity in the equation of oblivion."

Based upon what??

Our present moment existence?

This is common sense.

If you were dead for eternity you were never born int he first place because to have lived would not be dead for eternity so therefore to be dead for eternity means you never lived or existed in the first place.

reply to post by AthlonSavage
Whats the point, there is nothing you can do to change it.

Second line

reply to post by XsweetNspiceyX

This is common sense.

If you were dead for eternity you were never born int he first place because to have lived would not be dead for eternity so therefore to be dead for eternity means you never lived or existed in the first place.

Therefore your post never was posted and i never replied to your post. Now where getting somewhere.

There is no "dead for eternity".

I remember pre-existing prior to being born in a body.

We're just experiencing avatar like bodies here. But the status quo majority has decided to believe that there is nothing after this, which is all bullocks.

I got a thread you can check out, which will allow you to find the part of you that will continue on after the avatar flesh suit falls away

the ultimate enlightenment thread

reply to post by AthlonSavage


But to be honest here. Death doesn't exist!

Originally posted by americanur12
reply to post by Kashai

 

I think one life is plenty enough for every life or a life that could have been complete if not for being imperfect.
Dreams for me would be what happens when i am asleep but my brain never does sleep.

Actually when you have dreams your brain is sleeping and if you could not sleep for 2 weeks it would kill you in no different a way as drinking 2 gallons of water in one day. Given the Multiverse it is possible? That 100 trillion years from now, you and I are having this very same convesation in some other Universe far,far away actually it is possible.

Scientist have found the Cold Spot which, is actually evidence of a multiverse.

In which case it is possible that ending up dead means waking up in another life where this one feels like a dream.

Your asking the living?

Isn't that like asking an ant what it' like to be an ant !.

Kashai:

"There is no room for eternity in the equation of oblivion." Based upon what??

Based upon the finitude of awareness.

AthlonSavage's question (as posed) presupposes having lived a life, as you cannot be 'dead' without first having lived a life, or having had an awareness for a finite length of time based on natural physical mechanisms. The only way one can answer the question with any modicum of accuracy is to presuppose that consciousness continues after death...which it doesn't (what I choose to accept). Even a post-mortem consciousness could not answer the question, as an active consciousness (without incurring reincarnation) places the end of eternity constantly out of reach, making it a limit never to be crossed. Ergo, the question cannot be answered by a consciousness, even that of an eternal consciousness, for its very existential presence will always extend eternity.

If one never existed, the question is redundant.

reply to post by AthlonSavage


I believe it will feel exactly like when one wasn't "alive" for the pseudo-eternity from the beginning of the universe up until the moment one was born.

I often ask people that seem anxious to get their life overwith, if they remember was time was like before they were born, as that is most like how they will experience time once they die.

That is just my opinion.

reply to post by AthlonSavage

Then what...what is it like being dead for eternity?

How could it "be like" anything if you're freaking dead? If it's like anything then you're experiencing something and therefore you're not truly dead, and your consciousness has lived on past the death of your brain.

If your consciousness ceases to exist after death you wont experience anything because to "experience something" implies one has a consciousness. The only way you'll ever know what eternity is like is if your consciousness is immortal.

If we do cease to exist as conscious beings upon death, would it really just be blackness or nothingness for infinity? I believe that is really what you are asking... again I must ask how can we "experience" blackness/nothing if our consciousness ceases to exist?

The only beings aware of anything are those with a consciousness, there is no such thing as "experiencing nothingness for an eternity". It's probably something more like when you die you wake up as a different conscious observer.

Originally posted by elysiumfire
Kashai:

"There is no room for eternity in the equation of oblivion." Based upon what??

Based upon the finitude of awareness.

AthlonSavage's question (as posed) presupposes having lived a life, as you cannot be 'dead' without first having lived a life, or having had an awareness for a finite length of time based on natural physical mechanisms. The only way one can answer the question with any modicum of accuracy is to presuppose that consciousness continues after death...which it doesn't (what I choose to accept). Even a post-mortem consciousness could not answer the question, as an active consciousness (without incurring reincarnation) places the end of eternity constantly out of reach, making it a limit never to be crossed. Ergo, the question cannot be answered by a consciousness, even that of an eternal consciousness, for its very existential presence will always extend eternity.

If one never existed, the question is redundant.

I disagree and given Multiverse theory is accurate (there is very good evidence that it is), you and I are having this conversation in an infinite number of Universe's that were created at the same time.

Finite existence is irrelevant as it is is merely an internal representation of an external environment which, is inherently infinite.

reply to post by AthlonSavage

en.wikipedia.org...
Who's to say there isn't any type of life after death.If there is anything i have learnt from my time studying theoretical physics its that life is not as simple as it seems.Now think about this there have been study's done in the fields of quantum mechanics that states that death is a matter of perspective such as in the thought experiment in which lets say a man in doing a test and he is pointing a gun at his head that is fully loaded,he pulls the trigger from the perspective of the man what would he experience according to the mathematically proven theory(theory's can always be dis proven but in the case of quantum mechanics it has been rigorously tested and not been dis proven so this indicates that it is most likely right) of quantum suicide he would just hear a click and no matter how many times he pulls the trigger there would only be a click because ever time he pulls the trigger his consciousness branches of into another world where the gun defy s all probability this is made possible by the many world interpretation by Bryce Dewitt so in theory an observer can never experience death after life because it is impossible for him or her to experience death in the first place

All things considered if life after death occurs; life after death is life.

Any thoughts?

And one more way to look at it, if I am dead, and this IS eternity, talk about a colossal mind grind. I mean, if cable tv on the other side really is this bad, I think I can start believing in the undead! Please if this is the other side, I'm closing my eyes, clicking my two bongs together, and saying there's no place like home !


Not to make fun of the afterlife, but I don't see it as that solemn. Funny, the older I get, it's a lot easier to look a life that way too. I can't complain, I've had a great ride. I hope all you do too!

I believe in reincarnation. This is only a belief, it could be wrong. But what's it like living for eternity? Also, what is it like living on this Earth? Can you imagine that, cycle after cycle, being exposed to

It's pretty obvious there is somewhere better than this, because all of the lessons that we learn throughout our life wouldn't exist unless there was an existence where they are common sense. It is almost like we are preparing for that place through lifetimes of mistakes.

Or maybe the human race is a quantum computer algorithm being used by an alien race to determine the solution to political and interpersonal problems.

reply to post by AthlonSavage

I don't think Eternity is a “long” time, I think it's “no” time.

When we die we are no longer part of time at all, so technically we do not “go on”, because that would assume time passing. But we exist outside of time... So do we still exist? - well yes, but not in a way understandable by us who dwell within the “confines” of time.

I used to have a hard time with the concept when told “God had no beginning and will have no end”.
But if this “God” is outside of time, beginnings and ends have no meaning for it (him).

Again, eternity is not an infinite amount of time, it's zero time. Also the reason eastern religions are so aware of “now” as opposed to “future or past”. Because “now” is the closest thing to eternity we can experience in this life.

reply to post by NickK3


Oh thank you! Mobius, Mobius, Mobius etc etc etc! I knew that last piece would fall into place if I paid attention! Good things always happen when I click the two bongs together! Now, if I can just get my head wrapped around the whole 'Universe was here before the Universe wasn't here' bouncing round my head! Time for Bong clicking, maybe over a campfire, while I dance, like my ancestors used to and still do to this day. Mobius! I m off to the star trek online universe, that one, not so hard to navigate !