What is it like being dead for eternity?

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
You command yourself to read from a book rather than take responsibility for your own thoughts. That's the truth of the matter. That is what revelation is—to allow the thoughts of others to seduce us into believing them. How easily we are seduced.

You will learn in time, that the very book you are ridiculing is the very tool by which you hold yourself responsible for your thoughts. You cannot see "self" or your "thoughts" (motivations for them) truely until God reveal the inner man to you through His spirit indwelling as explained in that book you look down upon.

It is your thoughts that hold you in bondage, a bondage you are incapible of "seeing" untill God shows it to you in His perfect timing. It is clear that time is not now, but our conversation will mean something greatly to one who God is begining to call at this time.

God Bless,

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by TarzanBeta

 

Who are you talking about?

What I find very interesting is that you condemn those who follow some other one's idea, and imply that one should come up with their own idea.

Your atheistic view is a very common idea. It is shared by many. You're not being very original yourself.

I am not an atheist. But you can call me whatever you wish as long as you think it brings you answers. I wouldn't expect anything less.

I dare you to come up with your own idea of what happens at death; and further, I dare you to cause your idea to happen for you upon your death!

You dare me to pretend to know something about that which no one knows anything? I'll leave that to you sir. That's your realm.

Thank you. I appreciate that you admit that I know what many do not know.

See? God can even do me service by speaking through you. Well spoken.

reply to post by ElohimJD

You will learn in time, that the very book you are ridiculing is the very tool by which you hold yourself responsible for your thoughts. You cannot see "self" or your "thoughts" (motivations for them) truely until God reveal the inner man to you through His spirit indwelling as explained in that book you look down upon.

It is your thoughts that hold you in bondage, a bondage you are incapible of "seeing" untill God shows it to you in His perfect timing. It is clear that time is not now, but our conversation will mean something greatly to one who God is begining to call at this time.

I do not ridicule literature. The book of which you speak is a literary success, beautifully written. For that I am grateful. I only ridicule those that follow it without question, as if it held absolute truths in a world where absolute truths are impossible.

When someone prays to God, what do they really pray to? The hope that God exists. Beyond hopes and desires, there is nothing the mind can know.

reply to post by TarzanBeta

Thank you. I appreciate that you admit that I know what many do not know.

I admitted no one can know. You admit your dishonesty by twisting my words. You're welcome.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage
We are born
We live
and we die

Then we at some point die

Then what...what is it like being dead for eternity?

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It is exactly like it was before you were born ...

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by TarzanBeta

 

Thank you. I appreciate that you admit that I know what many do not know.

I admitted no one can know. You admit your dishonesty by twisting my words. You're welcome.

You dare me to pretend to know something about that which no one knows anything? I'll leave that to you sir. That's your realm.

Emphasis mine.

Originally posted by AthlonSavage


Then what...what is it like being dead for eternity?

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Then we all get together and sing a very special song of praise to god. It goes something like this:

Praise god, love god, praise god, love god.
God is great. God is great. Yahooooooooooooooooooooo!

And after we sing this to god, we
sing it
again,
and again,
and again,
50 trillion years go by and we're still singing it.

Sadly, I guess the one thing you can't do in heaven is commit suicide.

I work in IT so here's my take:

Partition 1: body
Partition 2: soul

Both hard drives fail...

Format c:
Format d:

Reinstall body on c:
Reinstall soul on d:

reply to post by jiggerj

No, the best you can do is to be reborn here or somewhere to continue to glorify God.

It think the reason for it is because it was determined a long longggg time ago, after an eternity of nothing, that it's much better for there to BE something than nothing at all.

But people tend to get what they pray for so if someone would rather cease to exist than to glorify God as the all-in-all, then I'll bet that option is available since the very nature of things is that there is always a choice.

How pathetic though to rather choose oblivion and annihilation than to do one's part to participate and contribute in the great work of art that is the story of the universe.

Originally posted by TarzanBeta

Originally posted by LesMisanthrope
reply to post by TarzanBeta

 

Thank you. I appreciate that you admit that I know what many do not know.

I admitted no one can know. You admit your dishonesty by twisting my words. You're welcome.

You dare me to pretend to know something about that which no one knows anything? I'll leave that to you sir. That's your realm.

Emphasis mine.

I believe that there is a huge difference between knowing based on empirical evidence and hoping based on faith.

reply to post by JustEve


Hoping is to await a time of manifestation. It is not to doubt the manifestation of something.

And faith isn't a lack of knowledge. Faith is loyalty to the truth.

Or have you not heard that when one cheats on their significant other, that is called being "unfaithful"?

Or how the USMC motto is "Semper fidelis", meaning "Always faithful". Faithful to what? To something imaginary?

No.

Always faithful to that cause which is good, and true. Faithful to the discipline that produces good fruits.

But all who consider faith to be something imaginary, these are the same that believe that truth is also an illusion; and the same think that truth is something that can be manufactured, and processed, and manipulated at one's own will.

But we know that truth is simply the actual state of anything.

Now just because you are ignorant of the actual state of something, that does not mean that there is not truth. That just simply means that you do not know the truth.

So then why should truth be blamed because of your ignorance? Why should it be diminished because you do not know something?

But what you do not know, that is your own ignorance. So then why judge the truth because of your own ignorance? Judge yourself; your ignorance is yours to own.

reply to post by skorpius

I honestly don't know why,i don't have all the answers-i do have my belief,no, more than that,a very deepseated feeling at the core of my being-that the end of the flesh-suit called a body,is not the end of life.It's one episode-it's a phase.I have complete peace with this,this is not one of the things that keeps me awake at night-about the circumstances of earthbound spirits/good/demonic spirits-we'll just have to wait to find out,i guess-it's not something i think about much-i have to get through Here first and foremost,and that can be challenging enough.

I do get what you mean about this world-how it can often seem like Hell,or the generally accepted concept of Hell as a place of suffering,pain,horror,fear,sadness,obscene and unspeakable things-but it
s not-because there is also kindness,love,compassion,beauty,innocence,hope,delightful things.These days,you often have to actively search for them,but at times of my worst depression-when i've genuinely considered that this Is indeed Hell..my child would hug me,one of my dogs would come and sit right up next to me+nuzzle me,i would read of an extremely poor elderly township woman taking in some Aids-orphans,and managing to feed them,and give them love and the feeling that someone in this world cares for them too-and then i would see,no,it's not Hell after all.

Originally posted by TarzanBeta
reply to post by JustEve

 

Hoping is to await a time of manifestation. It is not to doubt the manifestation of something.

And faith isn't a lack of knowledge. Faith is loyalty to the truth.

Or have you not heard that when one cheats on their significant other, that is called being "unfaithful"?

Or how the USMC motto is "Semper fidelis", meaning "Always faithful". Faithful to what? To something imaginary?

No.

Always faithful to that cause which is good, and true. Faithful to the discipline that produces good fruits.

But all who consider faith to be something imaginary, these are the same that believe that truth is also an illusion; and the same think that truth is something that can be manufactured, and processed, and manipulated at one's own will.

But we know that truth is simply the actual state of anything.

Now just because you are ignorant of the actual state of something, that does not mean that there is not truth. That just simply means that you do not know the truth.

So then why should truth be blamed because of your ignorance? Why should it be diminished because you do not know something?

But what you do not know, that is your own ignorance. So then why judge the truth because of your own ignorance? Judge yourself; your ignorance is yours to own.

In this case, it is faith in something of which we have no empirical evidence . All I'm saying.
I have faith too but I do not claim to know anything for certain, other than the fact that I am going to die at some point.
But that is just me.

reply to post by JustEve


What is the sense in wasting energy being loyal to something that you do not know?

I mean no harm by saying this, but that seems a little pretend-ish. Hypocritical, I think. In fact, I would say that is 99% of the problem with most self-proclaimed Christians today. They claim they are, but they don't believe it!

Oh and you highlighted empirical evidence.

I see.

Well if you mean to say that something can only be known if it is proven outside of yourself and your circle of friends, then you're never going to know truth.

I know from experience the works of God. And my family and I have witnessed first hand the works of God.

I'm not talking about money miracles.

I'm talking about healing. I'm talking about prophecies.

I'm not talking about rambling mouth, pentecostal, dancing around and rolling around like crazy folk.

I'm talking about real times of need, and real miracles. And I know what allowed those miracles to take place.

The name of Jesus Christ, and our KNOWLEDGE of His presence.

And therefore, because of our knowledge, evidence was given to us.

But these are not things we can impart to strangers that are not with us to witness it. They have been witnessed by parents that are still unbelieving; which is a horrible shame. They have been witnessed by people who knew these things cannot be healed, and yet they were done. And many ideas are made up to try to come up with a reason. And when they are told the reason, they say, "That's not possible."

And the reason they say that is not possible is because they don't like knowing that every single second, they are being watched, recorded, and understood; not by the state, mind you, but by an never-sleeping government of extremely powerful and yet very loving angels, at the charge of the Lord.

And people are so dim, and say, "Oh, but I never seen, neither heard, so it's not true!" But the reality is, they know it happened. They just can't figure out exactly why, or how. So therefore, their statement, "I never seen, I never heard, it ain't true!" In their hearts and minds, they think that God is so susceptible to their taunts that He would somehow feel the need to prove it to their unbelieving and lying hearts.

But God is not someone that you taunt. It's silliness, and folly. God created the jackass. Do you not think He is capable of a million times more stubbornness than that? You cannot taunt God.

But He will surely give back to you for whatever you wished, in His time no less.

So therefore, I say, wish for very good things, for yourself, and for all, and for your enemies!

reply to post by TarzanBeta


I never said I was Christian.

Originally posted by Kgnow
reply to post by AthlonSavage

 

Why do we so fear Death? It only takes us back to the place before Life. The Inhale and Exhale of existence.

Probably because we cling to the material such as offspring (children/grandchildren etc), housing, cars etc.
I read somewhere that 250 million new stars are born everday, is that why we as human have spoken about going to "heaven" in all religions? We turn into stars in the meanwhile we wait to return back to thing called life on earth?

Originally posted by JustEve
reply to post by TarzanBeta

 

I never said I was Christian.

I never said you were.

If Death is truly eternal you will not know or care as you will no consciousness to compare. If however you have an eternal soul (and I think we do) perhaps you will not care...

reply to post by TarzanBeta


You talked about having witnessed God's presence in your life...so have I.
I have faith.....LOTS of it.
But...do I know for a FACT what will happen to me after death?
No. I do not. I do not follow anyone and I prefer to draw my own conclusions, even if they are not correct it's ok because eventually I will get there.
I do not know for sure what will happen after death.
I am not God. Therefore, no.

Please forgive my poor English, I am not a native speaker.

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