Protestant disinfo debunked-Catholics are also Christians

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It is ironic that you would be such a critic of Jewish magic when you're such a vocal proponent of a pseudo-Christian variation of the same thing.

Originally posted by adjensen
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It is ironic that you would be such a critic of Jewish magic when you're such a vocal proponent of a pseudo-Christian variation of the same thing.

Calling upon the name of Jesus and Jesus then responding is not witchcraft.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
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It is ironic that you would be such a critic of Jewish magic when you're such a vocal proponent of a pseudo-Christian variation of the same thing.

Calling upon the name of Jesus and Jesus then responding is not witchcraft.

Believing that something supernatural cannot act unless you speak specific words and perform specific rituals is the very definition of witchcraft, regardless of what words are said. You're a modern day Simon the Sorcerer.

Originally posted by adjensen
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Believing that something supernatural cannot act unless you speak specific words and perform specific rituals is the very definition of witchcraft, regardless of what words are said. You're a modern day Simon the Sorcerer.

It is not that God cannot act it is that He won't act in a way that goes against His word. Our belief is no more witchcraft than your belief that God will not act if a person does not have dead faith.

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You have said in the past that God cannot save a person, regardless of their intent, if the correct name/words/ritual is not used by the human beings performing your ceremony. Are you now retracting that claim?

Originally posted by adjensen
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You have said in the past that God cannot save a person, regardless of their intent, if the correct name/words/ritual is not used by the human beings performing your ceremony. Are you now retracting that claim?

I have always said that God will not save any way other than what is stated in Scripture.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
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You have said in the past that God cannot save a person, regardless of their intent, if the correct name/words/ritual is not used by the human beings performing your ceremony. Are you now retracting that claim?

I have always said that God will not save any way other than what is stated in Scripture.

That doesn't answer the question -- he cannot, or he will not, regardless of a person's intent and faith.

Not omnipotent in the first case, cruel and arbitrary in the second -- which do you prefer?

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
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You have said in the past that God cannot save a person, regardless of their intent, if the correct name/words/ritual is not used by the human beings performing your ceremony. Are you now retracting that claim?

I have always said that God will not save any way other than what is stated in Scripture.

That doesn't answer the question -- he cannot, or he will not, regardless of a person's intent and faith.

Not omnipotent in the first case, cruel and arbitrary in the second -- which do you prefer?

edit on 19-8-2013 by adjensen because: (no reason given)

Can God lie?

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
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You have said in the past that God cannot save a person, regardless of their intent, if the correct name/words/ritual is not used by the human beings performing your ceremony. Are you now retracting that claim?

I have always said that God will not save any way other than what is stated in Scripture.

That doesn't answer the question -- he cannot, or he will not, regardless of a person's intent and faith.

Not omnipotent in the first case, cruel and arbitrary in the second -- which do you prefer?

Can God lie?

That still doesn't answer the question.

You don't use Jesus' real name for your little rituals, even though you think that you do, and you intend to. Do you think that God doesn't care what your faith or intent is, and he'll condemn you to hell because you used the wrong name?

That's what you teach, and bummer for you if you're held to it. I wouldn't trust liar, plagiarist and bigot Gary Reckart to come up with the real name of the POTUS, much less the real name of God.

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
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You have said in the past that God cannot save a person, regardless of their intent, if the correct name/words/ritual is not used by the human beings performing your ceremony. Are you now retracting that claim?

I have always said that God will not save any way other than what is stated in Scripture.

That doesn't answer the question -- he cannot, or he will not, regardless of a person's intent and faith.

Not omnipotent in the first case, cruel and arbitrary in the second -- which do you prefer?

Can God lie?

That still doesn't answer the question.

You don't use Jesus' real name for your little rituals, even though you think that you do, and you intend to. Do you think that God doesn't care what your faith or intent is, and he'll condemn you to hell because you used the wrong name?

That's what you teach, and bummer for you if you're held to it. I wouldn't trust liar, plagiarist and bigot Gary Reckart to come up with the real name of the POTUS, much less the real name of God.

God does not lie. He said we must be born of the water and the Spirit. Following God's word is not witchcraft and God keeping His words is not being cruel.

Originally posted by truejew
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Of all the words of power employed in magic since the dawn of time, none is more mysterious and profound than the Ineffable Name of God with four Hebrew letters, IHVH, called by the Greeks Tetragrammaton.

One such Ba'al Shem was the great Jewish magician Rabbi Loew of Prague, who breathed life into lifeless clay by means of the power of the IHVH and with it created the dreaded Golem.

Source: The Power of the Word: The Secret Code of Creation by Donald Tyson... Introduction



Why do you want to defend a name used in witchcraft that Jesus did not come in? Jesus came in His Father's name which is Jesus.

Are you seriously going to tell me you believe in that baloney about a jewish rabbi bringing a golem to life?

Tell me do you believe in werewolves, sasquatches and the black eyed kids too?

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
reply to post by truejew

 

You have said in the past that God cannot save a person, regardless of their intent, if the correct name/words/ritual is not used by the human beings performing your ceremony. Are you now retracting that claim?

I have always said that God will not save any way other than what is stated in Scripture.

That doesn't answer the question -- he cannot, or he will not, regardless of a person's intent and faith.

Not omnipotent in the first case, cruel and arbitrary in the second -- which do you prefer?

edit on 19-8-2013 by adjensen because: (no reason given)

Can God lie?

No, but he has had no shortage of people stuffing words in his mouth and saying it came from him, and you can find that all through the OT.

Originally posted by truejew
God does not lie. He said we must be born of the water and the Spirit. Following God's word is not witchcraft and God keeping His words is not being cruel.

Then you will be condemned, because you are intentionally not doing what you claim God says that you have to do. God's name is not "gee-zus", so you've never been baptized in your "Gary Reckart approved" ritual.

Me, I'll rely on God's love and mercy, not on the works and words of a documented liar.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by truejew
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Of all the words of power employed in magic since the dawn of time, none is more mysterious and profound than the Ineffable Name of God with four Hebrew letters, IHVH, called by the Greeks Tetragrammaton.

One such Ba'al Shem was the great Jewish magician Rabbi Loew of Prague, who breathed life into lifeless clay by means of the power of the IHVH and with it created the dreaded Golem.

Source: The Power of the Word: The Secret Code of Creation by Donald Tyson... Introduction



Why do you want to defend a name used in witchcraft that Jesus did not come in? Jesus came in His Father's name which is Jesus.

Are you seriously going to tell me you believe in that baloney about a jewish rabbi bringing a golem to life?

Tell me do you believe in werewolves, sasquatches and the black eyed kids too?

My point was that the tetragrammaton is used in witchcraft.

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew
God does not lie. He said we must be born of the water and the Spirit. Following God's word is not witchcraft and God keeping His words is not being cruel.

Then you will be condemned, because you are intentionally not doing what you claim God says that you have to do. God's name is not "gee-zus", so you've never been baptized in your "Gary Reckart approved" ritual.

Me, I'll rely on God's love and mercy, not on the works and words of a documented liar.

Your teachings that Jesus is not God and that salvation by grace through faith is cruel is not Biblical.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen
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You have said in the past that God cannot save a person, regardless of their intent, if the correct name/words/ritual is not used by the human beings performing your ceremony. Are you now retracting that claim?

I have always said that God will not save any way other than what is stated in Scripture.

That doesn't answer the question -- he cannot, or he will not, regardless of a person's intent and faith.

Not omnipotent in the first case, cruel and arbitrary in the second -- which do you prefer?

edit on 19-8-2013 by adjensen because: (no reason given)

Can God lie?

No, but he has had no shortage of people stuffing words in his mouth and saying it came from him, and you can find that all through the OT.

Then according to Adjensen, you believe that God is not all powerful. Adjensen's ideas are silly, aren't they?

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My point was that the tetragrammaton is used in witchcraft.

Incorrect! The tetragrammaton is used in Jewish Mysticism, such as the Quablah

The term tetragrammaton (from Greek τετραγράμματον, meaning "four letters")refers to the Hebrew theonym (Hebrew: יהוה‎) transliterated to the Latin letters YHWH. It may be derived from the verb that means "to be", and is considered in Judaism to be the proper name of the God of Israel used in the Hebrew Bible.

en.wikipedia.org...

You know, bottom line is this:
Catholics (I'm a lapsed one) are JUST as much a Christian, ie, FOLLOWER OF CHRIST, as much as Baptists, Protestants, 7th Day Adventists, etc etc.
NO ONE WAY IS RIGHT OR WRONG. You should pick what way works for YOU, and YOU ALONE for your faith.
What works for you might not work for someone else and vice versa.

Originally posted by HomerinNC
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My point was that the tetragrammaton is used in witchcraft.

Incorrect! The tetragrammaton is used in Jewish Mysticism, such as the Quablah

The term tetragrammaton (from Greek τετραγράμματον, meaning "four letters")refers to the Hebrew theonym (Hebrew: יהוה‎) transliterated to the Latin letters YHWH. It may be derived from the verb that means "to be", and is considered in Judaism to be the proper name of the God of Israel used in the Hebrew Bible.

en.wikipedia.org...

Jewish mysticism is witchcraft. Plus, the tetragrammaton is used in other forms of witchcraft.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew
God does not lie. He said we must be born of the water and the Spirit. Following God's word is not witchcraft and God keeping His words is not being cruel.

Then you will be condemned, because you are intentionally not doing what you claim God says that you have to do. God's name is not "gee-zus", so you've never been baptized in your "Gary Reckart approved" ritual.

Me, I'll rely on God's love and mercy, not on the works and words of a documented liar.

Your teachings that Jesus is not God and that salvation by grace through faith is cruel is not Biblical.

You know full well that is not what I teach, so, once again, you are lying.

Has following a documented liar and plagiarist for so long jaded you into believing that lying is a "fruit of the spirit"?