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Out of the All the prophets and apostles, none were women.

Who was the lady at the temple who met the infant Jesus? What did the Bible call her again?

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Out of the All the prophets and apostles, none were women.

Who was the lady at the temple who met the infant Jesus? What did the Bible call her again?

You have an unhealthy attachment to the facts, lol.

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I've just dealt with this numerous times that's all. When people say no women were ever prophets/teachers/deacons, that's well, factually incorrect.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Out of the All the prophets and apostles, none were women.

Who was the lady at the temple who met the infant Jesus? What did the Bible call her again?

Anna the daughter of Phanuel.

And...Miriyam, the older sister of Moses was also a prophetess, and Hannah, Deborah, Ruth the Moabite, Esther and more than just those there were around 15 that I know of.

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew
The apostles taught only one God and that one God manifest in the flesh while never calling God "three persons". That is non-trinitarian.

May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with you all. (2 Corinthians 13:14 NIV)

Hmmm... seems to be three persons there.

The Trinity is present and evident throughout the Bible. Either the Apostles were trinitarians or they used a different Bible than you do.

Unless you are claiming that the Lord Jesus Christ and Holy Spirit are separate from God and therefore not God, the scripture does not show a trinity.

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That is not what the text says.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Out of the All the prophets and apostles, none were women.

Who was the lady at the temple who met the infant Jesus? What did the Bible call her again?

Anna was a "prophetess" in that she repeated prophecy that she had heard from a prophet. There is no proof that she was called by God to the office of prophet. Plus, that would contradict men having authority over women and the fact that women were not allowed to preach in the temple.

Originally posted by truejew
Plus, that would contradict men having authority over women and the fact that women were not allowed to preach in the temple.

Yeah, that would be your problem.

Show that women were not allowed to preach in the Temple by demonstrating a refutation of Anna.

She would not have been included in the text of the New Testament if God taught that women could not be prophets of him.

Originally posted by adjensen
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That is not what the text says.

Your claim is that because Jesus, God, and the Holy Spirit are each separated by the word "and" that this makes them separate persons. However if Jesus and the Holy Spirit are separate from God, as you claim the verse says, that would lead to Jesus and the Holy Spirit not being God. Therefore your view that the word "and" means they are separate persons is incorrect.

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew
Plus, that would contradict men having authority over women and the fact that women were not allowed to preach in the temple.

Yeah, that would be your problem.

Show that women were not allowed to preach in the Temple by demonstrating a refutation of Anna.

She would not have been included in the text of the New Testament if God taught that women could not be prophets of him.

Can you show us where Anna preached in the temple?

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Out of the All the prophets and apostles, none were women.

Who was the lady at the temple who met the infant Jesus? What did the Bible call her again?

Anna the daughter of Phanuel.

And...Miriyam, the older sister of Moses was also a prophetess, and Hannah, Deborah, Ruth the Moabite, Esther and more than just those there were around 15 that I know of.

They had the gift of prophecy. Not everyone with the gift of prophecy is called to be a prophet.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Out of the All the prophets and apostles, none were women.

Who was the lady at the temple who met the infant Jesus? What did the Bible call her again?

Anna was a "prophetess" in that she repeated prophecy that she had heard from a prophet. There is no proof that she was called by God to the office of prophet. Plus, that would contradict men having authority over women and the fact that women were not allowed to preach in the temple.

Lol

"Prophetess" is the female form of prophet. Just as stewardess is the female form for a steward.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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Out of the All the prophets and apostles, none were women.

Who was the lady at the temple who met the infant Jesus? What did the Bible call her again?

Anna was a "prophetess" in that she repeated prophecy that she had heard from a prophet. There is no proof that she was called by God to the office of prophet. Plus, that would contradict men having authority over women and the fact that women were not allowed to preach in the temple.

Lol

"Prophetess" is the female form of prophet. Just as stewardess is the female form for a steward.

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We have no prophetic writings of Anna, no evidence that she preached. Plus, that would contradict other scriptures that say man has authority over woman and the fact that women were not allowed to preach in the temple.

All we know about Anna is that she prayed and fasted in the temple and went around speaking, not preaching, about Jesus after she had heard Simeon give prophecy that Jesus was the Christ.

Originally posted by truejew
We have no prophetic writings of Anna, no evidence that she preached.

By your logic, as your cult relies on the "fivefold ministry" for its legitimacy, we can prove that your cult is not legitimate because none of the writings of your prophets appear in the Bible.

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We have no prophetic writings of Anna, no evidence that she preached. Plus, that would contradict other scriptures that say man has authority over woman and the fact that women were not allowed to preach in the temple.

Well I don't know what else to tell you, I suppose you should get your pen out and make another asterisk in you Bible next to the verse which states she was a prophetess. And the Bible never says men have authority over all women, just a husband over his own wife. People called to the office of prophet generally were not married anyways, she probably didn't have a husband.

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I'm sure that Reckart has already written her out of the Bible in the version that he's putting together (and, lest TJ try and say that's not true, Reckart wrote on 2 August 2013 "After careful study of all the manuscripts before the KJV that existed before 1000AD, make corrections." Revise the Bible, based on errors you imagine to be in there. Absolute lunacy.)

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew
We have no prophetic writings of Anna, no evidence that she preached.

By your logic, as your cult relies on the "fivefold ministry" for its legitimacy, we can prove that your cult is not legitimate because none of the writings of your prophets appear in the Bible.

The writings of some of our prophets do appear in the Bible. Esaias, Jeremias... to name a couple.

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew
We have no prophetic writings of Anna, no evidence that she preached.

By your logic, as your cult relies on the "fivefold ministry" for its legitimacy, we can prove that your cult is not legitimate because none of the writings of your prophets appear in the Bible.

The writings of some of our prophets do appear in the Bible. Esaias, Jeremias... to name a couple.

What, you're claiming to have the reincarnation of Isaiah and Jeremiah as current members of your cult?

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
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We have no prophetic writings of Anna, no evidence that she preached. Plus, that would contradict other scriptures that say man has authority over woman and the fact that women were not allowed to preach in the temple.

Well I don't know what else to tell you, I suppose you should get your pen out and make another asterisk in you Bible next to the verse which states she was a prophetess. And the Bible never says men have authority over all women, just a husband over his own wife. People called to the office of prophet generally were not married anyways, she probably didn't have a husband.

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The wife of Esaias was a "prophetess". It is believed her title was because she was married to Esaias, not because she had a preaching ministry.

Anna was a widow and was married for seven years.

Luke 2:36-37 KJV
[36] And there was one Anna, a prophetess, the daughter of Phanuel, of the tribe of Aser: she was of a great age, and had lived with an husband seven years from her virginity; [37] And she was a widow of about fourscore and four years, which departed not from the temple, but served God with fastings and prayers night and day.

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by truejew
We have no prophetic writings of Anna, no evidence that she preached.

By your logic, as your cult relies on the "fivefold ministry" for its legitimacy, we can prove that your cult is not legitimate because none of the writings of your prophets appear in the Bible.

The writings of some of our prophets do appear in the Bible. Esaias, Jeremias... to name a couple.

What, you're claiming to have the reincarnation of Isaiah and Jeremiah as current members of your cult?

Do not be silly. Just because Esaias and Jeremias are no longer living does not mean they are no longer a part of the Church. We still have their ministry through their writings.