Concerned Officials Warn: “North Korea Could Explode a High-Altitude Nuclear Device Over the Unite

My room-mate has an EMP failsafe built into his ridiculously expensive computer tower (isn't that crazy?). If he presses a certain key combination, it will have a blast radius of 30 feet.

30 feet is way less than 1,000 + miles, but it is still enough to wipe out every computer, television, external hard drive / thumb drive, cell phone, etc. in the house - even my Kindle, CD Player, and my car (since it runs on electronics).

He might have the thermite fail-safe installed instead at the moment. But EMP capabilities are a practical topic we talk about sometimes.

Well all I can say is that we have no idea what N.Korea has got in capabilities or who are 'really' supporting them. If they have been able to launch a satellite in space for the second time and the effort and time to makeshift something up with the help of an insider who knows ? then yes they may have capability to do this but time will tell what happens. N.korea is very closed of from our eyes.

For country that has been heavily sanctioned is doing very well to say they putting across they deadly threats across the pond. So it makes you think that each move they make seems to be very threatening to the US in concerns.

They may have cleverly planned up something that may hit us by surprise.

Think about in there not stupid and they no that they don't have any advanced capabilities like we do so they will use what they have as an advantage and plan very carefully and how they going to use them.

Originally posted by TheNewRevolution
reply to post by penninja

 

It doesn't really matter what YOU would do or a handful of preppers would to to self sustain themselves in a situation.

No matter how gumdrop and candyland the world COULD be after an EMP strike, people to not take kindly to loss in any regard. People also tend to take advantage of available lawlessness to the fullest degree if given the opportunity.

You only need to look at disasters in this country on a small scale such as Katrina and the chaos that ensued down there to understand how much worse the big picture would actually be - and that was with aid coming in. There wouldn't be aid to serve an entire country. There wouldn't be shipment lines to refill the grocery shelves. People wouldn't be able to get to work.

After that comes the worst part of all - nuclear meltdown. Current nuclear plants are rigged to run independently on fuel for 7-30 days without access to shipments. They are not configured for long term blackout situations that could take years to repair to any sort of degree. There are 104 nuclear reactors operating at any given time in this country. Unless they have a steady supply of fuel for maintained operation you are looking at a Fukashima situation at every single one of them within 30 days.

So no. An EMP would not be nice. As much fantasy as it would be to go back in time and live off the grid for people, and believe me I would love it to - it would be a complete disaster for us and MILLIONS would die from the chaos that ensued within the first few months. It is sad that society has come to this but it has, and for those of us that won't turn on fellow man for no apparent reason but irrational looting nature, we will just have to try to ride out the storm until nature takes care of those who cannot fend.

Sad but true.

You know this is the kind of Doom Porn right here that kind of makes me a bit ill....

The ENTIRE theory on WHY this sort of meltdown would happen revolves around in a bad scenario diesel fuel running out after 7 days and then the inevitable....

The giant effin retard-ism of predicting DOOM from such a scenario is that your talking about what? 103 Reactors... needing weekly Diesel delivery? For a time... until some genius figures out we have hundreds of thousands of solar panels and wind turbines that can get brought in as more trucks and trains get back online...

So some gloomy SOB... writes an article, we run out of diesel in a week reactors go boom.... and then everyone alive is a moron?

There aren't 206 Trucks left running within the military and civilian world that can be used.... that didn't have computer chips in them, The Mexicans would drive up tankers for us by the end of frick frackin week.... Neither would the Canadians... Fema the Army no one has trucks in shielded locations to go along with the Millions of Barrels of Fuel we leave in storage... no one thought of this huh?

I have to say it

Not to be a jerk...

But YOU are the guys the FEMA camps are For.... your the type of IDIOT that will go straight to survival mode and cause the mess the doesn't let the Diesel trucks through that causes the COMPLETELY UNNECESSARY MELTDOWN.... In the first place....

I mean of all the stupid ass..... How many god damn trucks of diesel are there down in Mexico and up in Canada why the hell other than asinine behavior would a single reactor have to melt down?

And if you save the freakin reactors... why the hell would it take 3 years to repair crucial transformer sites?

We are talking about a SINGLE North Korean EMP in orbit not global thermo nuclear war

What are we an Island? We have no neighbors?

I'm sorry... but your talking TOTAL BS and watch too much god damn walking dead or something...

Your biggest doomsday thought as to why is complete BS and never has to come to pass.... doom saying

And YEAH some areas would be like that but You know what? I was In NY for 9-11 and the Blackout a few months later.... and NOBODY acted like an jerk off....most Americans aren't In the ghettos of New Orleans

In a lot of regions of America you wouldn't notice much of anything... Like Nebraska or the any regions ripe with lakes... WHEN the basic reasoning of getting Diesel by the end of the week from Canada came to pass and nothing Melted down... Half this country is corn fields and lakes for christs sake...

Food and water would come if people in the cities didn't Panic

Realistically.... Maybe there is a real reason DHS is stockpiling Ammo... Morons

reply to post by OptimusSubprime

Life has taught me many lessons, one of which is to never underestimate the little guy in a fight. We can joke and laugh about their rhetoric but at the end of the day Mr. Un has something to prove and that is why he's dangerous!

It's mainstream media spinning propaganda fear to divert the world attention from United States unsustainable debt and economic manipulation.

Disgusting indeed.

This is blatant fear mongering at its worst.

DPRK does not have the capability to launch nuclear weapons using their current missile technology, let alone form a satalite; we know this based on their numerous failed launches so they can’t actually use a missile to launch a nuke at America with their current level of technology. There is a whole world of a difference between testing a feasible nuclear devise and putting it on the top of a missile and launching it at a large city hundreds or thousands of miles away.

Now there is a very small chance they have the ability to use a long range bomber to drop a bomb onto a city, much like the Enola gay and little boy all be it a incredibly small change that they could get through American national defences. Even if they did and managed to drop a bomb they don’t have any of the mega thermonuclear bombs that we have. The last test was 6kt, the bomb that dropped on Hiroshima was only a 16kt and it is believed that most of their bombs average out at the 10kt range. That means that in the event they did detonate a bomb it would be a very small one when compared to the bombs that we have.

The idea that they could pull of a high-altitude nuclear explosion is even more unlikely, it would be very difficult for them to do it with a bomber so that leave the missile which they don’t have. And because their bombs are so small the EMP is going to be smaller.

Now to suggest that they have orbital space launch vehicle that could launch a nuclear weapon is the most absurd claim ever. The Americans and Russians would have detected such a satellite and destroyed at in accordance with international law as the militarisation of space is forbidden. That assumes that North Korea, the state that can’t even get their ICBMs working correctly can actually launch such a complex satellite.

So no this is just fear mongering.

This info surfaced yesterday and was covered in the 'Korea Watch 2013' thread. The source was World Net Daily. SHTFPlan picked it up as did several other panties-in-a-twist sites. These, as well as our 'friend' Sorcha Faal are among the LEAST credible sources on the net. Nothing found on ANY of them should EVER be used as the fodder for a thread. As has been repeatedly pointed out by posters, NK lacks the capability to build a warhead with a high enough yield to generate a respectable EMP nor do they have a vehicle with the range to get the device the distance and altitude it needs to be to pull this off.

A big FAIL on this thread.

The irony of all the U.S.'s enemies, a failed state like North Korea being the one to take out the world's only superpower is kind of amusing

Come on, really? Doomsday porn? If something like World War 3 is on the fence, I would like to hear and see all rumors just so I don't have my thumb up my butt when something does happen. Regardless, if I think something is going to happen or not. It NEVER hurts to read. Governments lie to stop panic.

Here is what the North Korans think:

KPA military strategy rocket fire in the standby state, long-range missile launch command only entered the waiting. Smoke mushroom cloud olrimyeo land in another country applauded the crowd struck the American cannibals Welling rising my land from the federal firestorm caught up in the moment will disappear like dust finally came. Now the world, and the universe ruthless U.S. imperialist nuclear blackmail nuclear attack, Songun Shipbuilding answered firmly that the definition of total war, the war of aggression attitude of one hundred million invariant explodes Enemy scary to even imagine them how without Mr. crushed beorineunga burned, and how the United States and Crony beorineunga will see.

military strategy rocket fire in the standby state, long-range missile launch command only entered the waiting.

This is from a North Korean website. What is being reported by the UK/various other nations is not being reported by the United States. Why? Because, that statement above says the missiles are waiting and ready to go. The threat is there. Now it all comes down to whether or not they have the balls to do it.

How is your doomsday porn now????


Rule one of combat.. Never under estimate your enemy.. It could be the last time you under estimate anything..

Originally posted by jtma508
NK lacks the capability to build a warhead with a high enough yield to generate a respectable EMP nor do they have a vehicle with the range to get the device the distance and altitude it needs to be to pull this off.

...And always will (i.e., they'd be razed to the ground long before anyone would let them get that far).

A big FAIL on this thread.

I'd disagree with this statement. This is ATS

Originally posted by CristobalColonic
The irony of all the U.S.'s enemies, a failed state like North Korea being the one to take out the world's only superpower is kind of amusing

Its not about taking out a super power. Its all about starting something. A retaliation strike will mean war with other countries.

Also, you are forgetting Pearl Harbor.

Bring facts to the table and not opinions.

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you’d think right?
... but.. they have managed to get something into orbit...

where is it at the moment?
www.washingtonpost.com...

.. .and how often has it crossed over the US mainland, it’s over Italy at time of writing this.

Then you've got their nuclear tests. CNN this morning, said that the US have admitted they couldn’t detect any radiation or emissions after the last test and that this was indicating they are more advanced than originally thought.

Now, the latest satellite from North Korea, the Kwangmyŏngsŏng-3 Unit 2 is 100KG...

100KG..... The amount of uranium used in Little Boy was 64kg.

To me, the design of little boy was fairly primitive



but its ingredients were unique. We know NK has the ingredients!...and with today’s scientific advancements.. even for a nation like Korea... i imagine they could manage to setup the simple design and make it light.. and simple.. without much difficulty. Hell, googling little boy design gives me a pretty good idea on what to do!

Also, consider the projecticle and target of littleboy (the core) was 64kg total, the rest is purely the casing and the firering mechanism.

I'm surprised no one’s making more of a fuss over the current satellite, no one seems to know what’s inside that one.
With North Korea's recent rocket success and nuclear testing.. well hell, I think it’s feasible they could launch something to detonate in orbit.

don’t you?

Originally posted by darkbake
My room-mate has an EMP failsafe built into his ridiculously expensive computer tower (isn't that crazy?). If he presses a certain key combination, it will have a blast radius of 30 feet.

30 feet is way less than 1,000 + miles, but it is still enough to wipe out every computer, television, external hard drive / thumb drive, cell phone, etc. in the house - even my Kindle, CD Player, and my car (since it runs on electronics).

He might have the thermite fail-safe installed instead at the moment. But EMP capabilities are a practical topic we talk about sometimes.

edit on 3-4-2013 by darkbake because: (no reason given)

Unless your roommate also has explosives in this computer, then no, he doesn't have an 'EMP failsafe.'

Hi everyone. Was just reading through the thread here. I was a CBRN tech for the Army up until very recently (medically retired) and I've thought about EMP blasts off and on over the years. Even asked some of the older, more experienced folks what their take on the whole thing was. I was pointed at Starfish Prime, and told that most of the military's comms these days are shielded (assuming the radios were meant, not sure if that applies to any satellites) and that it would take multiple warheads to detonate over the mainland low enough to have any kind of significant impact, yet high enough that anything "line-of-sight" to the blast would be affected. I actually have a few books on the subject, some fiction, some not. Most people see something like the plot of that show "Revolution" coming to pass. I doubt it would be quite so dramatic. Civilian electronics would probably be hit, but the major corps and the government and military are probably prepared for that kind of contingency. Think of it like a decent-to-big sized solar flare and you're on the right track. There's my two cents, I guess.

Afraid of EMPs? Use a surge protector - *bam* your house and its electronic devices are protected.

Of course, the electric grid will fail. No hopes for that one, the power cables leading to your home are simply too long and will get "fed" with too much inductive energy, producing enormous ampere.

reply to post by johngrissom

Rule one of combat.. Never under estimate your enemy.. It could be the last time you under estimate anything..

Rule One of political propaganda: always exaggerate the threat your enemies pose. It justifies your own aggression.

Originally posted by ManFromEurope
Afraid of EMPs? Use a surge protector - *bam* your house and its electronic devices are protected.

Of course, the electric grid will fail. No hopes for that one, the power cables leading to your home are simply too long and will get "fed" with too much inductive energy, producing enormous ampere.

I'm hoping your post is in jest.........

If not, have a read:

EMPs

It takes a bit more than a surge protector to protect sensitive electronic equipment from a nuclear EMP.

Originally posted by all2human
Western propaganda to justify a pre-emptive strike,complete fiction but a good read.

Yes. NK does not have the means by any stretch of the imagination to do this. One puny nuclear device would do next to nothing high in the atmosphere "over the US".

If they were really that concerned, then they could easily destroy it now, and they have the justification in the form of threats and provocations from NK to back them up.

Obviously they aren't really that concerned about it. If they were it would not still be up there now.

IMO

Originally posted by johngrissom

military strategy rocket fire in the standby state, long-range missile launch command only entered the waiting.

This is from a North Korean website. What is being reported by the UK/various other nations is not being reported by the United States. Why? Because, that statement above says the missiles are waiting and ready to go. The threat is there. Now it all comes down to whether or not they have the balls to do it.

How is your doomsday porn now????


Rule one of combat.. Never under estimate your enemy.. It could be the last time you under estimate anything..

edit on 3-4-2013 by johngrissom because: (no reason given)

With all of these threads on ats following what msm says, such as fox or cnn, I don't understand why anyone would listen to them. Forget the msm in this country. NK could be up to something right now while NY times continues to tell everyone that NK is just "blustering". Really, does anyone know for certain what is going on?

At this point, I'm doing what I can to ready my home and family for whatever may come. That's all I can do.