Vatican Prophecy, the End of Religion, and Shift to Universal Consciousness

reply to post by WarriorOfLight96


You are astute in your understanding of the spiritual war ongoing. Excellent posts in this thread.

God Bless,

Originally posted by frenzy4444
reply to post by BornOfSin

 

Sorry my friend I did have a hard start in this life but did not create these personas my friend also go and check akasha then my friend. I did not mean to make you upset in any way. The dark ones are good at making you feel correct. If you are talking with them ask them who the pa-tal is then. I meant no dis regard look at it from the top. We are both Australians which are 33. You quoted Matthew in your writings and claim the annunaki are working for the good. In 1994 they signed the end of the charter but still have not really helped any of the good federations. I feel we were meant to have this discussion my friend to help raise unity consciousness. Please don't think I was against you my friend I feel we were destined to meet

Love Matthew

When in 1994?

That also happens to be the year of the great apostacy in God Church on Earth, when the Temple of God was destroyed leaving no stone on top of another... I am curious to see if in the spiritual realm something occured that you are speaking of in this post at the same time.

Thanks for your contributions in this thread.

God Bless,

Originally posted by maxhobbs
I am so sick and tired of the Vatican, catholics and pretty much every religion.

Gee, which of the 4,000+ religions are the "right" one?

The one where Jesus Christ makes His abode, and they faithfully keep the commandments of the Eternal.

God Bless,

Originally posted by nenothtu

Originally posted by frenzy4444
reply to post by beastnwokillah

 

But guys lucifer was his name when he lost his arch angel rank. He is Luciel when the almighty forgave him.

I'm sorry - I didn't get the memo about the whole "El forgave him" thing. I guess maybe I've been out of the loop for too long, or they may have lost my address. If it's all the same to you, I'll wait until that memo arrives before I act accordingly and try to give him a big ol' love-and-light hug and change his name on my contact list and such... You see, I've also heard a rumor that his name was actually changed to "Shaitan" or "Iblis" or something like that, and he's moved away from his villa on the coast and set up housekeeping inland. The memo ought to clear all that up for me.

edit on 2013/3/2 by nenothtu because: (no reason given)

Angelic beings are spirit beings. Spirit is the mind; therefore spirit beings are compossed of spirit essence (the mind). Once a mind being has been "set" in thinking, it cannot be changed. Lucifer "set" his mind "against" the Eternal God of Creation (Satan = the opponent); he cannot be forgiven because he cannot repent (change how he thinks) of his rebellion.

It is this EXACTLY the reason why mankind had to be created physical, so that they can repent (change how they think) and be transformed over time, though the physcial process designed; into the way of thinking that exists in God. This is How they are created in the image of God and explains the purpose for physical existance in God's plan for the recreation of His way of thinking in billions of children, Jesus Christ being the first.

God Bless,

Originally posted by BDBinc
reply to post by ajay59

 

The ten commandments are not from God.

Spoken like a true Catholic, this is the only way Catholic's can justify their rituals and traditions.

God Bless,

Completely plausible.

Thanks for the fluid and organized presentation. S&F for that, at least.

Originally posted by WarriorOfLight96
reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1

 

Satan knows that he can never win and so your soul is all that is desired.

Forgive me but, I find the whole idea of Satan rather funny. "Satan", which just means adversary, is exactly that, an adversary. I like to think of Jesus saying in Luke 9:50 "Forbid him not: for he that is not against us is for us." I would stand to recon that the opposite applies as well to say that "he that IS against us, is not for us" Think of it like this, when you are against "God" what does God then become to you? I'll tell you, he becomes your adversary and you Gods. God in affect becomes "Satan" or adversary to the one against God. When you read those texts replace the word Satan with adversary it will make them, the texts, much more comprehensible.

Sorry, I just want to let the air out of Satan. It's not a being, its an action and nothing more.

Peace

Originally posted by rigel4
Genuine question...

What do all these powers,whether alien or Godly, want with
the Human Race? Why do they even care about us?

Because God craeted mankind to become part of Elohim (God's family name) as brothers and sisters with Jesus Christ, through Jesus Christ (Passover lamb).

The angelic realm was created first, they were given dominion over all the universe for millions if not billions of years. When God revealed His awesome plan for the creation of a family (reproduce himself) through physical mankind, 1/3rd of the angelic realm disagreed with God's decision. They felt they were far superior to weak physical mankind that could die, they didn't comprehend that only through the creation of physical mankind could the creation of God's way of thinking be accomplished in immortal spirit beings.

Only physical beings can change, spirit beings are mind beings, and they do not die (unless God ceases to sustain them by His great power), therefore once evil (way of thinking that goes against God's) was found in angelic beings, they are "set" against God's work in the creation of Elohim (the God family).

God is allowing the fallen angelic beings (those "set" against God's work) during this age to function as they do by perfect design, they actually allow for God's work of creating His people in his spiritual image easier because of how repentance works and how a mind is transformed over time into agreement with God's way of life.

Satan and his followers do what they do because they are deluded into thinking they can cause God to err, thus justifying their attitudes against His being. But God is in complete control and will reveal what is true shortly to all the world.

God Bless,

Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by nenothtu

 

The first organized Christians were the Catholics. Everybody else broke off from there starting with the Angelicans in England. On the other hand, the Jewish faith is the only one that still holds true to the idea of just one God while Catholiscism is all about polytheism with all those saints and the Holy Mother Mary and how many other holy "people". I was raised a Catholic but they asked me to leave because I asked too many questions. LOL.

The Apolistic Church of God in the era of Ephesus is the first organized christians under the leadership of Peter and then including Paul. This was not the Catholic church.

The Catholic church was founded by Simon the Magician, later to become the Pater (Father of Fathers) of the Romish Church, the staue in the Vatican depicting Peter the Apostle is really Simon Pater head of the church of Rome (Pagan sun god worshippers).

The true church of God has been small throughout its history, very small at times (narrow path), and it was nearly wiped out several times by the Catholic church throughout the last 2000 years.

God Bless,

Originally posted by karen61560
reply to post by nenothtu

 

The first organized Christians were the Catholics. Everybody else broke off from there starting with the Angelicans in England. On the other hand, the Jewish faith is the only one that still holds true to the idea of just one God while Catholiscism is all about polytheism with all those saints and the Holy Mother Mary and how many other holy "people". I was raised a Catholic but they asked me to leave because I asked too many questions. LOL.

Negative. The Catholic Church was created in the fourth century in opposition to, and as a replacement for, christianity. Then, when too many questions arose, they had to back track and make up justifications for their existence, so we get dogma and mythology about Peter being the first pope, and all the baggage that goes along with that in order to create a justification. Peter was long dead by the fourth century, when the Catholic Church was created.

Catholic meddlings and attempts at justification are also where we get the mythology of the bible having been "rewritten". Nowadays, that same mythology is being used by other organizations to justify their own belief system - they say the bible was "rewritten", not faithful to the original monographs, and so their reasoning is that anything goes now, just as long as they can claim that the bible was rewritten, and they of course have the only "real" bible.

reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


Yes I agree but it's Christ who baptizes with the holy spirit, a person without Christ in his heart is spiritually dead and won't see the kingdom of heaven,one with Christ in his heart is the one who is alive. You can't make it to heaven without Christ, and Christ baptizes you with the holy spirit and only than you will be like Christ.

I am in no religion, I have no one but Christ to guide me on my journey and it's you with a blindfold who seeks out darkness and mingles with false light. I am almost free from the chains of humanity and I closed all my bank accounts and I will return to the land and as you should.

No fallen angel is gonna tell me who is right and who is wrong and no way in hell, will I let him take you or any other fellow human with them, you would follow a reptile and big eyed demon over Christ?

I see we will be arguing for nothing and you have made your choice and it's understandable that you feel compelled to look else where and that's fine and you have your self a great day and I hope this has not made you despise me my friend.

God Bless

P.S. you have the building blocks to be a great teacher with Christ in your heart.

reply to post by BornOfSin


"It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it." ~Aristotle

As you probably notice based on my post count, I rarely reply in threads; I'm more of a lurker. However, I just wanted to take the time to thank you for your well-written OP and your continuing effort to provide genuine responses to the RESPECTFUL questions being posted.

It's sad to see so many ATS'rs who apparently lack the ability to entertain the ideas presented, even if they don't agree. Nobody is saying to take the OP as gospel (pun intended, ha!) but some of the replies from a few members would have you believe otherwise.

So thanks again for the great work and PLEASE KEEP POSTING. I suspect that there may be a lot of lurkers like me who are really intrigued by this thread but may not post anything. I knew I had to say something because there's no way I can let all the opinionated negativity ruin an otherwise excellent thread.

~Cam.

reply to post by WarriorOfLight96


I am far from the darkness, but you are welcome to your opinion.

I live in love and light, I think you are the one in darkness by believing Jesus is the only way. He is a way, but only one among many. I have come to my conclusions through Jesus' teachings but I do not claim he is the only way as you do.

We're already in heaven, the universe. Just because man has messed up everything here on Earth doesn't mean we aren't in heaven, only that we're on a tiny planet that has lost its way within heaven.

Jesus was a gifted teacher, nothing more than that. To think he is somehow greater than you or I is doing a disservice to yourself.


ETA: As for you thinking that this guy has somehow changed my worldview? Wrong, in fact he has reinforced it, minus the whole Annunaki thing. Do they exist? Are they good? That's not for me to decide, but his message on what the light and religion are, I 100% agree with.

Originally posted by ElohimJD

Originally posted by rigel4
Genuine question...

What do all these powers,whether alien or Godly, want with
the Human Race? Why do they even care about us?

Because God craeted mankind to become part of Elohim (God's family name) as brothers and sisters with Jesus Christ, through Jesus Christ (Passover lamb).

The angelic realm was created first, they were given dominion over all the universe for millions if not billions of years. When God revealed His awesome plan for the creation of a family (reproduce himself) through physical mankind, 1/3rd of the angelic realm disagreed with God's decision. They felt they were far superior to weak physical mankind that could die, they didn't comprehend that only through the creation of physical mankind could the creation of God's way of thinking be accomplished in immortal spirit beings.

Only physical beings can change, spirit beings are mind beings, and they do not die (unless God ceases to sustain them by His great power), therefore once evil (way of thinking that goes against God's) was found in angelic beings, they are "set" against God's work in the creation of Elohim (the God family).

God is allowing the fallen angelic beings (those "set" against God's work) during this age to function as they do by perfect design, they actually allow for God's work of creating His people in his spiritual image easier because of how repentance works and how a mind is transformed over time into agreement with God's way of life.

Satan and his followers do what they do because they are deluded into thinking they can cause God to err, thus justifying their attitudes against His being. But God is in complete control and will reveal what is true shortly to all the world.

God Bless,

It's unbelievable to me that people actually think that what these different churches say is the truth. There are ancient scrolls which have been made into a way of living. Once read, these writings can mean ANYTHING! You can read them and make any meaning you want out of them. Where people have been reared changes the meaning totally - depending whom is preaching...

Surely that tells people something?

When i say these words I'm totally ignored and called an 'atheist' and a 'hater' but I will still ask the question: Why does this supposed 'God' ask for faith? If this omnipresent god, that knows everything, not know everything?

The answer I get is that god has a plan and people have been given freewill......yada,yada,yada

Please accept that the human religions were created to control you and that going to church and giving your money to the church is because the church wants your money.....................

Really, does a 'God' that can be anywhere, at any time and know everything want your money?

It was a time since i stood off this thread admitted but its surprising to see how quickly it tracks out of line and the my god is right and yours isnt start. It doesnt matter. There can only be ONE. Religions are evil and made to control. It has nothing to DO with God of LIGHT. Which is Divine ISource,Divine Light, God Aton of Light, Great Spirit. Now He/She IS WITHIN YOU. WITHIN YOU. you DONT NEED any bible,book etc. All you need is your CONNECTION WITHIN, and the LAWS of God and Creation. what are they? www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com
why? because it is your ticket HOME,friends. Because the laws are BALANCE and outside is evil and confusion and chaos. Its quite easy actually. It is your ego and your DESIRES that throw war between you and YOUR SPIRIT. But your SPIRIT IS NOT your desires or ego. It DOES NOT want it. Look how little children are. watch and learn. Truthful. Honest. without lust. without desire for sex,money,fame,power,you name it. without ego. That is where I want to go. It is only ego that critisises,quarrel and worse. LOVE is the highest and to do that you have to love unconditionally and open your HEART CHAKRA. yes alot of pain etc but worth it.

reply to post by WarriorOfLight96


I read as far as 'shadow people' and then saw quoting of Biblical text, which is where I stopped reading as I had already stated I would not read due to it being too easily misinterpreted to support any belief. Arguments based upon such easily misinterpreted text are pointless and counter-productive.

"Shadow people", also sometimes related to mothmen, etc, and widely associated with prophecy, are commonly a misrepresentation of a biological process in tired/exhausted bodies where non-essential functions of the body are shut down to preserve energy. One of these is peripheral vision. Unbeknownst to the person they go into tunnel vision.

When they become aware that they are seeing in tunnel vision, their body switches back on their larger 'peripheral' vision and this gives a momentary flash of black between the switch, which results in flashes incorrectly attributed to 'shadow people/mothmen'.

Those cases which are not a misunderstanding of this process, are a result of a tuning into a frequency related to another 'universal reality' or 'dimension'. To say that the glimpses of entities within such an alignment represent 'demons' or 'evil spirits' is inherently wrong as saying those within our universal reality do.

reply to post by BDBinc


Interesting that when I acknowledged that there is no 'known truth' in the how things work, you ignored my question where I asked you; "what experiences do you base your belief that you have a better understanding of telepathic communication than I do based on my personal experiences of it".

Instead you went on to rejoice in the fact that I acknowledged I could never know what I understand to be the truth; as being the truth, as if you'd won something, in ignoring the question and told me to 'stop deceiving these people'.

So firstly I ask you again; "What experiences do you base your conviction that I have no understanding of the true nature of telepathy, that you could claim them to be more accurate than what I have learned to be its nature from my personal experiences with it?"

Secondly; for you to state I am 'deceiving these people' as fact, when it is born of baseless arguments of assumption and contradictions to what you believe to be biblical truths; can be said to be no more true than if I stated 'stop deceiving these people with lies spawning religious faith' based on an equal foundation.

The big difference is that I do not make such claims of religion 'deceiving people', only of it detracting from our ability to evolve as a species and understand a true nature or this universe.

This same claim cannot be made from within the confines of religious faith as it has not only proven to not only stagnate our thinking as a species, but historically to have held us back from ascension to the true nature of our conscious connection with all things.

So instead of claiming victory and stating personal opinion that 'I am deceiving', enlighten me as to how you are so certain your understanding of telepathy is more accurate than mine when I have personal experience in the area.

Is anyone else experiencing problems posting/connecting to ATS?

I am having problems connecting, that appears completely limited to this forum and the IP I'm using to attempt the connection. I am able to circumvent the issue by establishing a different IP (proxy) connection, which is only a temporary fix as I then appear to be very quickly blocked upon that IP connection as well.

you are the target to the nay-sayers, and no-sayers, as all truth-sayers are to be~

LOVE

reply to post by BornOfSin


You are doing a good work M8, they can't lock this thread because it would rise some members questioning and stuff, but they can block you.. as if you went away.

It would be better if we can put your posts and threads to the web, for all public access. In such case, I can provide some place for you.