Vatican Prophecy, the End of Religion, and Shift to Universal Consciousness

Other than the OPs first post and subsequent follow-up posts - all the way to pg 5, I would add; simply fascinating - I found the following 2 posts (back to back, amazingly enough) to be equally compelling and more on line with my way of thinking...

Originally posted by Lingweenie
I myself am not religious, I pretty much never been, even from a young age. I never accepted christianity (which is the dominant religion in my area.)

I would consider myself an atheist, but I do accept the fact that there may be a god. However, I don't think that "god" is an actual physical being that created everything out of nothing. I tend to believe more that there is some sort of universal force that governs the universe. Kind of like gravity, it is a universal force in which dictates the motion and revolving of star/planets. Except this force is much greater of course. There has to be SOMETHING out there that dictates how the universe operates.

Originally posted by yellowsnow
Religion is just old forms of government. Tithing is just the first form of income tax. Talk of unified consciousness is nothing more than pushing communist ideology.

We are at a point in history were the very few almost have full control of the entire world. And they are soon to make a move towards full control.

I believe the new testament is taken way out of context...Jesus was the first documented revolutionary opposing an oppressive government. He ran the money changer from the temple. The temple was part of the government structure in those time. We have the money changers and government entwined today and lo and behold the whole world is in debt.

America went to war in the middle east to install pyramid scheme central banks in the last few countries that were free from them.

Jesus implies the sun. Ancient alchemists attributed the different types of metals to planets. With the sun being Gold.

The book of revelation talks of the mark of the beast. Currencies have been referred to "mark" for a long time (like the Deutsche Mark). A beast is an animal that is used or enslaved. Our US currency even has a pyramid on to symbolized it as a pyramid scheme......I don't feel like typing anymore, but you get my point...

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reply to post by 3NL1GHT3N3D1


Why didnt you say that in the first place?


Humans are very hard to understand and I did say I agreed with most of what he says about the universal consciousness but it's not something one can bring because it's inside you as is Yeshau.

here is website with some cool sayings of Yeshau.

www.thepearl.org...

I feel we must return to the old ways and not with religion but to become one with your surroundings and live with the light of love, with those close to us or living around us be that insect or animal.

reply to post by CirqueDeTruth


You may have missed the very key parts where I stated that I didn't care to address those who sought to discredit me or didn't believe the information I gave. I actually decided at an early stage that I would not post any more in this thread for that very reason.

The reason I continued is at the request of those who shared such information with me, as they felt I could possibly give some understanding of the concepts I posed to such people, that would serve to alleviate fear in the eventuality of their arrival.

I still care very little if I am believed, regardless of their school of thinking. I have never, and will never seek affinity of those who have had similar experiences as I don't wish to bother having to analyse the legitimacy of their experiences. Last thing on my mind throughout everything that has happened. I don't even think about it.

I have been reading your threads with interest as they resonate with much I have come to understand for myself. I also appreciate the humility with which you post. I have a couple of questions. One personal and one related to a comment about bloodline.

About 10 years ago I had an audible voice saying "(my name) stay tuned. I sat up surprised. My first thought was that it was the sound of a thousand rushing waters (from my bible days) Then thought it sounded like all the voices in the Universe in perfect union. My question, do they know who might have corresponded this to me? I layed back down then within a few minutes heard a single voice speaking in sing'song fasihon say "Watch the light"

You mentioned your mum's bloodline. I have had an interest in bloodlines for years but in particular the female bloodline as a container for the soul in some matrilineal dna. Is there any validity to this and is it worth pursuing.

I have skipped most of the replies but would like to comment on the fact as to whether your contact is good or evil. Traditional information would put it at evil but as we consider how history has been distorted and we have been lied to repeatedly to keep the agenda going, I for one remain open.

A little bit off topic; but this happened late last night so I want to ask;

Does anyone know the significance throughout any type of mythology or religion of stick insects?

There was a stick insect present at one of my bands gigs the other night that was over a foot long. I have never seen one so large. It was climbing on my car and I got photos of it. I drove home, thinking that with a bit of wind it would come off the car. But it didn't.

I made two stops along my way home, to drop off equipment and our drummer, and it still kept a hold on the car.

As I got closer to my house I stopped at a local school about 1KM from my house and flicked it (gently) off the car onto the school oval as I didn't want to risk it still being on the car when I got home as it would probably get killed by our dogs.

Two days later (last night) my brother tells me that our dog is at the front fence fascinated by a stick insect on the other side of the fence.

This is the EXACT SAME (or its twin) large stick insect, who appears to have made it over a KM through suburbia down a multitude of streets to be at the front of my house, to be sitting outside my front fence, much to the delight of our bullmastiff cross puppy.

I have NEVER in my life seen a stick insect this big, let alone two in two separate locations of each other within days of each other. To the point where I am almost CERTAIN this is the exact same stick insect.

Do they possibly have some type of homing senses anyone knows of that could lead them back to my car??

The thing that has me most intrigued about this, is that an old Greek lady was taking pictures of it on my car before we left the gig, speaking in Greek. A band member of mine happens to be Greek and speaks it fluently and told me that the lady was saying; 'They are Mother Marys horses. Apparitions .. Signs'.

I have done some research into this, but beyond finding that their name comes from the Greek world for 'Apparition', I cannot find any other mythological references to them that is relatable.

I am quite used to be followed around by now by animals such as Owls and Curlews, but stick insects is a new one for me.

reply to post by liveandlearn


Great question liveandlearn,

I too am interested in the OP's reply. If the op can shed some light on your question, I am sure you will find there are quite a few of us on here that can resonate with your experience as well.

reply to post by BornOfSin


Hi BOS,

This is very intriguing. can you post a picture for as to look at? I am sure someone here will be have some idea of what it could be. Can't wait to see what it looks like.

reply to post by nrthstar


Hi nrthstar

Are you speaking of the audible voices? I suspect my two were from different sources tho they were about 15 min. apart. Thought one was counteracting the other. Doubt everyone's is the same but who knows?

Hope he can offer assistance.

reply to post by liveandlearn


I haven't asked a great deal in regards to the DNA bloodlines, beyond being told they had interest in bloodlines and for me to look at my mothers bloodline. You appear to know much more than I do in this regard. I will need to look more into this so that I can can ask the right questions regarding it.

As for the voices telling you to stay tuned. I am told this was not them directly, but that someone/something wished you to maintain your spiritual connection. They felt it important enough (whether for your or them is not sure) that such a message was given, to prevent your spiritual consciousness (or third eye as some say) from closing. I am told this originates from within your superconscious attachment to the world. But from whom I am not sure.

As for watching the light. I guess it would be up to your interpretation as to what was meant. If you took it to be somewhat in relation to the information I offer, it could mean that you were to be 'watching' for the 'light of life' information I have given. Or from others interpretation within the forum it could mean to 'watch out for the light' meaning that you were being warned against what is offered.

I guess that is entirely up to you within what you feel rings true as a positive influence on your spiritual development.

I personally am always keeping mindful of the possibility of being deceived in everything I am told as I have throughout my life, which is why I see the truth behind so many of the so-called 'conspiracy theories'. The one thing I am beginning to realise is that 'good and evil' in the traditional and 'preached' senses of the words are always a matter of perspective.

By far a more accurate way to approach things as they effect you directly, and influence your affect on your fellow man is 'positive and negative'. What is positive for you spiritually that can form positivity for others, cannot by nature be spoken of as evil, regardless of its popular perception. Stay mindful of the nature of the influences on yourself and others in-turn and I don't feel you can be 'mislead' or 'deceived.'.

reply to post by liveandlearn


Yah, they scared the heck out of me. I thought it was just a dream, you know when you first fall asleep. You are dreaming but still half awake. After the second voice called my name, more like as if someone (something) screamed my name, I started to look into it more. My following experiences were even more interesting.

reply to post by nrthstar


This is because; as I have stated in this thread; the subconscious is the bridge between the conscious and superconscious minds.

This means you are most easily contactable in a state where your consciousness gives way to the subconscious. This (I believe) is that point where dream and reality meet. As it is the point where both minds are in a balanced fluid communication.

Also I will post pics of the stick insect later once I get them off my camera.

reply to post by BornOfSin


There are native american legends of insect people that may be of interest. I posted some of these legends on another forum but was unable to find the thread when I went back and looked. Will try again.

reply to post by BornOfSin


Thank you for your time BoS. You are correct as the voices came at a time just prior to my taking a major stumble and falling off my path. It has remained a reassurance to me that someone/something outside physical self cares. But who...

If you don't mind, I will pm you a little info, minus documentaion, to help you understand my line of thinking. Let me know.

reply to post by nrthstar


check U2U

reply to post by BornOfSin


Thanks BOS. your help is appreciated. I have had an interesting child hood. I recently looked into my mothers blood line as well and have found a lot of interesting information. That is my reason for joining ATS. I am trying to learn more about what I had experienced and am continuing to experience.

reply to post by liveandlearn


There is nothing in my U2U from you.

Are you sure it sent?

reply to post by liveandlearn


Sorry liveandlearn, not to sound like an idiot just a newbie. U2U?

reply to post by nrthstar


message

Stick insect on my car.