Vatican Prophecy, the End of Religion, and Shift to Universal Consciousness

reply to post by BornOfSin

Just ONE of the the contradictions I was referring to is that you first described your communication with them as the orange light moving to yes no .Which you say changed to Telepathy one way.
What about being told they were going to eat you made you consent to having you mind reprogrammed on a one way street.

Then you say
“I wouldn't let them in my head but then I said I established telepathy to them later. “
You consented to them entering your mind.
Why did you establish telepathy with these beings was it them telling you that they were going to eat you that allowed you to let them seed your head? Why ?

Or do you think you controlled them, and if they are more advanced than you why do you claim to have controlled them in communication?

“This means that I would not let them 'seed' my head" you say but you know they were controlling the communication so why do you think you controlled it/them?
You told me you did passively accept thoughts and ideas.
Now I hear there was resistance when you tried to enter their minds, that sounds like one way communication from them to you .


“But I was able to retrieve from them in the passive sense of things they projected through regular thought if I wanted to hear them. “
You were fed whatever information and ideas they wanted to give you. You did not control them, they controlled you.

reply to post by BornOfSin

You cannot seriously have said they seeded us, are here watching and controlling us and then say they are not that we were free from their seeding.
You don't control them they control you- you cannot enter their minds you get only dribbles of whatever ideas, thoughts and feelings they choose to give you such as seeding man with "survival of the fittest" and other harmful philosophy and institutionalized religion which was to control us.
So are you telling me now are they going to free us from their influence, undo the damage from seeding the species .No you did not say that.
One way telepathy you said, thats evident you cannot even see the controllers controlling you.
Love

reply to post by BornOfSin


First, I make many points in my posts... Which you don't address. Not able to contradict them, are you?
Too logical and well argumented for you to try and pull a BS answer out of your hat, I guess.
It's ok...

Second, the definitons of faith and belief you quote actually contradicts YOURS, not mine. If you can't even see that, I'm worried for you and your mental health...
Well, in fact, I was already worried before your reply to be honest.

reply to post by feelingconnected


Apologies I will look soon.

reply to post by BDBinc


No,

I was confronted with a yellow orb that seemed erratic and aggressive in nature. I asked it if it meant me harm and it said; yes. I asked 'you want to eat me or something?' to which it said yes. But I focused on the 'controller' (relating to the person on the other end of the orb for that person who asked why I used the word controller. It was to them controlling the remote viewing manifestation of the orb, not me or our race), and got the sense that they were trying to frighten me for their amusement.

I immediately relayed this back to them and they ceased to do it. I believe that I spoke to a multitude of different 'controllers' through the orbs. Which simply means there was a different entity connected to the other end of the remote viewing. This was obvious by certain personality characteristics.

As I have stated in this post; You cannot assume that every individual within a race will subscribe to the ideas and 'goals' of the sum of them. Therefore it is unfair to judge them accordingly or by the deeds of their ancestors.

reply to post by 1Agnostic1


There is a good reason I don't address your other points.

Lets assume for a second that your school of thinking regarding Quantum Entanglement is 100% correct. Does this then negate the message related to use being connected all things that is the purpose of this thread?

Consciousness and our attachment to the metaphysical type pseudoscience realms of this universe would be by no means clarified, regardless of which school of thinking was correct in this regard. It is an inconsequential argument to the fundamentals of the message I was trying to get across.

Wasting time arguing differences of opinion in the science related to our possible connection to the fabric connecting this universe, will not change the fact that we 'do' have a connection to the universe on that level, regardless of who is right or wrong.

If you believe that my hypothesis of a popular field of theoretical science is wrong when relating to our connection and the fabric of this universe, then please feel free to propose a more sound theory for this connection.

If not; please feel free to attend the science forums for a more in-depth discussion related to those parts of this theory.

reply to post by SteveR

Agreed. Too much more and we will all suffocate from the stink of your feces.

Don't forget guys - he gets all his information from Sitchin books! He also claims Russia is Central Europe.

I actually said 'centre of the European continent'. Please refer to your map and tell me what you see around the centre.

Secondly; I question the intelligence of someone takes your line of thinking towards this thread, yet still continues to read and post in it. Unsubscribe to it would seem like a smarter option in such a case yes?

reply to post by BornOfSin


Thanks for answering my questions BornOfSin. Obviously you are very knowledgeable and well versed. Do you want this connection to stop? I still don't understand what it is you are looking for. You seem to be quite anxious for people to believe the entity your communicating with is of "pure light". As every one else, I am very worried for you. They are giving you half truths, playing (controlling) with your mind and emotions putting you on the front line.

reply to post by nenothtu


I believe you to be probably the most open-minded and rational of the faithful contributing to this forum.

Therefore I respect and thank you for your input thus far and have made an effort to consider everything you've said.

reply to post by BornOfSin


How contradictory of you to spend so much more of your time ad hockum insulting me.
Things you just said (in between the insults) that need repeating

“I have already pointed out how religious faith can easily (much more so) be considered enslavement of the mind”
Which was as you told us was introduced by your Annuki controllers.
Did you then say that the Annuki seeded Religion was a well constructed enslavement of the mind, and when carried out properly it is near impenetrable in that its entire premise requires a faith that defies logic and reasonable thinking?

“I was attempting to 'free' you from mental slavery.”
No you were not, how did you ever try to free me from mental slavery?
And it is clear from the posts you are obsessed with slavery .
Remember I don’t believe in any of the institutional Annuki seeded religions.

The only thing said by you that I agree with is this:
“That an unseen and largely unknown race of beings hiding in a background were actually responsible for the current ugly state of affairs with man. “


“Religious( & its Annuki seeded as you claimed) division is the primary used motivating factor for a majority of the hate in this world. I sit there and tell you that the hate, anger and fear is flamed and distributed behind the scenes by a group that most of the world haven't even heard of.”.
NWO. People have heard of them now.


We are not born savage beings . You are lying.
Hatred and competition is taught, attachment is not a goal for man it’s bondage. Attachment has nothing to do with unity. Love does.
You have no credibility, you are and were mind controlled, what you say is not from light beings.
LIGHT,LOVE and peace

reply to post by BornOfSin

You are now telling another different story about the communication with them.

“I was confronted with a yellow orb that ( now) seemed erratic and aggressive in nature”( which would’ve made the right left questions impossible). “I asked it if it meant me harm and it said; yes. I asked 'you want to eat me or something?' to which it said yes. “
Yikes man you have a" one in a million IQ and are a psych expert."
And you then gave them permission to enter your mind but was refused access to their mind and you say were in control and masterful.

“You cannot assume that every individual within a race will subscribe to the ideas and 'goals' of the sum of them. Therefore it is unfair to judge them accordingly or by the deeds of their ancestors.”
What deeds are you refering to and are you going to disclose them to us now? And how do you claim to know the sum of the race then from one that wanted to eat you .
Someone here can help you if you want help.
LOVE LIGHT and PEACE

reply to post by nrthstar


I actually care nothing for if people believe it or not.

I wasn't going to bother for the fact that I felt I had nothing to prove within myself within the forum. I had completed what I wanted to do in cataloging my thoughts.

The reason that I started posting again and replying to people is because they asked me to do so. As they felt that certain people were gaining something positive from this.

I am doing if as a favour to them, I personally don't care.

What I DO care about is people telling me that what I have been communicating with is evil in nature. Reason being that so far (regardless of some attempts to scare me for their amusement) everything they have given me has been of a positive nature and has given me reasonable answers to everything I have wanted to know.

I honestly appreciate that you have concerns for me, but be assure that I do remain open to all possibilities and I am constantly questioning the legitimacy of everything I am told (including the source)

I don't kid myself that all I am told and present is the absolute truth. There is never any 100% known truths in this world. I only present my reasonable interpretation of what I believe could be the truth based on the information given to me. Whether there is a resonance of truth in what I propose is up the reader.

reply to post by feelingconnected


feelingconnected, I was of the opinion from your edit that you had gained an answer to the questions that you had posed.

What is exact question or aspect you'd like me to address?

reply to post by BornOfSin


Do you think they ment to follow the history as to find a relation with a type of employment or could it be more of how your blood is made up, blood type, DNA and all that technical stuff. I find the RH - and RH + concept an interesting topic too. Does it have any relevance to what you've been told or have they mentioned it?

I just found the direction you to took understanding why it was you they talk to you interesting. Was it purely and only because of the relations employment to the likes of Area 51 and the like or was there more. Without repeating myself to much has there been any knowledge pasted to you in regard to blood types or DNA.

I also want to add, you will know that the ones that resonate with what you are saying are here are listening not because you are trying to convince them and have. If like me, there has always been a kind of unknown knowing. I know and understand you are not here to convince anyone of the truth. What ever that is.

The top paragraph was copied from my first post.

Listening with open ears and eyes and I hope my Q. Makes sense

reply to post by BDBinc


I have already stated to you that there are 4 different states of telepathic connection.

Send/receive, both with a passive and active form.

You keep saying that I 'let them inside my head' when I have told you many times, this is not the case. You still aren't grasping the duality of both sides of the communication. So I will try explain it in a little more detail.

They only gain what I allow them to hear. This is passive telepathic reception on their behalf, where they only hear what I openly think in 'conscious thought'. An active telepathic reception would mean that they access my unprojected though regarding things within my mind that are not part of my current thought patter. Unbidden thought, which is easily recognisable as 'foreign' in nature, not originating from my own mind, taking what they want from it. This includes 'voices' or 'thoughts that aren't of my own mind'. This constitutes to me as 'being in your head' rather than 'being able to tune into what you freely project'. I don't believe the 'active' type connection can be done without the knowledge of the subject and constitutes what I have actively blocked.

In the same regard I quick quickly gained an ability to 'tune-in' to things being projected by them in a way of consciously 'seeking them out to listen' by choice. This is quite different and not to be mistaken with allowing them to put thoughts into my head.

As time progressed I started to understand that possibility of being able to seek an 'active connection' to those who I was communicating with. My reasoning for this is that I found that with pushing to 'seek' unprojected answers from them that they weren't giving. I was met with a definite resistance to what I was trying to do, which felt the exact mirror of what happened with me when I blocked the reverse from them.

Hope this makes sense to you now.

reply to post by BDBinc


Where do you get the idea that we are not born "savage"? I disagree. We came from simple cells and evolved over time into conscious entities - we come from the lowliest, from stupid, ignorant, programmed by more simple and biological needs. Ergo savage. You've heard of children who have grown up away from society? They are savage when found.

You are lying!

To BornOfSin...

Your story intrigues me, I signed up here to share my experience of an orange orb. I did not make any contact with it - however, it's flight characteristics were so extreme that it has affected me greatly.. Most sightings of orbs are usually mundane, but what I saw is totally mind blowing.

Also, I have many similar ideas that you have (truth be told I only skim read some things to get the gist, I have a funny thing where I like to keep my own thoughts untainted by thoughts of another, especially because of the unique language we all have to identity the things we experience, I wish to keep the integrity of my thoughts "pure", sorry for the vague explanation), however, I am compiling these ideas into dialogues and such posed as science-fiction.

Originally posted by BornOfSin


This makes no sense. Then there is Adam and Eve spawning all humanity. Then there is Cain taking wives, who could have only been his sisters (or mum) in the Genesis of a book which teaches incest is wrong.

Thanks your reply.
Wt I meant by personal relationship with Jesus, was to be Born Again.
And when you are Born Again, you do transcend mere faith and belief,
you are in the Knowing realm.
As regards Adam and Eve, they were cast into the outer darkness, where there
were people maybe as a result of evolution or what ever.
Garden of Eden was an entirely different dimension.

reply to post by feelingconnected


My understanding is that they have a vested interest in particular bloodlines and that there is a multitude of reasons for this.

I asked about the theories of 'Greys doing research on humans as they have weak organs and needed to do research on ours to assist their race.' after doing a little research into this. I was told the reasons behind particular 'research' carried out by their species was reverse in nature.

Around the 1900's they realised that particular 'defects' were beginning to show up within our genetics as a result of modifications they carried out on us in antiquity. For this reason they began identifying bloodlines that both exhibited the highest indicators of these defects, as well as those who indicated none, so they could work on correcting these defects.

Even people such as Travis Walton have come to believe that his abduction was part of an effort to 'help him', although I acknowledge that this will carry little weight to the argument considering a lot of people hold the belief that his case was a hoax.

Beyond that they have acknowledged that this does no represent the limit of their interest in certain bloodlines. They will not however elaborate on that with me but I personally think that it is related to particular cognitive strengths (and maybe weaknesses). For my part I can only assume that it may be possibly related to cognitive processing abilities identified through my relatives association with the U.S Military. *shrugs* Who knows.

I am not too concerned with the exact reasons 'why', but more with 'what it means' in relation to my involvement. What I should (or shouldn't) be doing that could fulfill my intended purpose.

reply to post by Angelic Resurrection


An alternative dimensional existence is a feasible explanation for this, but one that I believe most faithful would be adverse to due to the methods of thinking required to come to such a theory.

Could it not stand to reason thought, that what you refer to as your 'relationship with God', is merely a personification for understanding of a connection that is not all too dis-similar in nature to what I feel is an 'attachment to the true nature of the universe' or 'the light of life', within a mostly scientifically oriented perspective of the universe as a whole?

Neither detract from an acknowledgment of divine forces within our realm, or our attachment to such. And as such while it can't be said that a belief in God is truthfully 'wrong', the same can also be said for a universal view to a divine collective consciousness.

reply to post by WorShip


I am glad.

The only way to seek a greater understand in any proposed truth, is to question every aspect of it.