Dinosaurs Have Skyscrapers and Cellphones? Maybe.

I put my hand up and asked the professor and class, "if humans just appeared on Earth a little sliver of time ago, why didnt the Dinosaurs, who lived for like a hundred million years, why didnt they build skyscrapers and have cell phones?"

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Did they have skyscrappers and cellphones? They did and They still do. These days they are known as Reptillians.

J/K friends

reply to post by HTUKno1


That's not true. We saw the skeleton, not the whole body so we can only assume what they looked like. We still don't know what color their skin was, if they had fur or feather, how their soft tissue looked like, the amount of fat they had etc. As far as we know T-Rex could be just a huge fat chicken
Here's how cat would look like if paleontologists would draw it looking at the skeleton


I found it here

reply to post by Tuttle


We actually found few 'mines' that looked pretty unnatural and speculated they are thousands of years old
But most of our mines won't be there because of tectonics and moving continents
A 200.000 years old Metropolis - not sure if true

reply to post by OutonaLimb


The Earth is not expanding. That is something that can be measured. The positions of the continents can be determined and they do not match the movements as claimed by the expanding earth folks. One of the main proponents today is a CGI guy from California who made a video that shows the connection of the continents not matching what is known. It's a bit of pretty CGI that connects up boundaries in the Pacific region that were never connected. It also avoids the existence of Rhodinia, a super continent before Pangaea.

This early statement in your link shows the nature of this EE claim.

Failure of a suggested underlying mechanism for a theory explaining observed data does not invalidate the theory itself, nor does the absence of such a mechanism. For example, no underlying mechanism is put forward here to explain why the Earth is expanding. But the conventional FE mechanism underlying 'tectonic plate movement' is so ludicrous as to cause wonder as to the extent to which 'scientists' can ignore well-known laws of science in seeking an explanation of observed data.

1. It makes it clear this cannot be a scientific theory
2. A logical fallacy is employed to discredit the well established PT

This is followed by a lie or a misdirection or whatever you want to call it.

Convection cells can only form in fluids, and the nearest planet-scale fluid rock to the 'tectonic plates' is in the outer core, some 2900 km down.

The EU makes less sense than the expanding earth baloney.

reply to post by Robonakka


The fact is that we know less about our ocean floor than we know about the surface of the Moon or Mars. Ninety percent of the ocean floor has not even been charted. If we spent few years looking at the ocean floor instead of Mars, I am sure we would find a lot of new things.

reply to post by baburak


The place Tellinger dates to that age is not based on anything more than wishful thinking. The place is more recent and shows no indication of as great an age as suggested by Tellinger.

Your book about dinoart does not seem to mention the real historical issues about determining the look of dinosaurs. One of the interesting items was the first attempt to do a reconstruction. That was done in France and part of it involved an iguanodon. There was a horn-like object recovered at the dig. The artist placed that object on the tip of the nose of the dinosaur just as it would have been placed on a rhino. Later excavations determined that this was a claw. The horn was removed from the face of the dinosaur and placed at its proper location.

en.wikipedia.org...

its artistic representation changing significantly in response to new interpretations of its remains.

Look for thumb spike to see what had once been considered to be a horn on the face.

Today we can learn the posture of animals from their skeletons by examining the articulation patterns on the bones. That tells us how the bones moved during life. The relative orientation of bones tells us about posture. The bones of a cat show that it is a quadruped. The bones of a cow show that it's tail hangs down.

Hi OP, of course Dinosaurs could have "advanced" in a different path, it did not have to be technological.

We impose our current understanding of other mammals into the dinosaur to make them look inferior, but we don't really know that.

Some on ATS will try to say there were no Ancient civilization or animals that were advanced, claiming if it did, things would survive....

Survive few thousands years maybe, but not over 100-200 million years, Heck humans can't even comprehend that amount of time.. our peak of technological advanced is only 400yrs.... not even a pixel in the grand scheme.

reply to post by WormwoodSquirm


I was just thinking the same thing in a thread about "angels" orbiting the sun. One of my theories on the objects in question were that they are some kind of satellite put up there for whatever reasons by an ancient technological race(pure speculation on my part). That got me to thinking, what ancient civilization could it have been?

(going to cover a few theories here)

If human intelligence was develpoed by natural means in the few thousands of years we`ve been here, why could a reptialian race not develop intelligence to form civilization as well?

Why would "GOD"/ancient astronuats/ETs choose mammals for developing rather than reptiles?

If monkeys could evolve into human, why not reptiles?

Also, if the planet Earth went through an event that caused its crust to liquify and turn molten, how could we ever tell a super ancient highly technical civilization/race existed?

Originally posted by luciddream
Hi OP, of course Dinosaurs could have "advanced" in a different path, it did not have to be technological.

Nice
Even further pondering to do now.

Are you thinking developing in a metaphysical or spirtual sort of way? Something like vibrating to different levels of dimensions/reality/consciousness?

reply to post by StratosFear


I was thinking more of a earth elemental sort of way... trying to harness energy... or focus certain energy to a certain area. Heat, cold, rain, storm.. etc.

I m not saying only dinosaurs could have done this.. but i just refused to believe ancient were not just cave dwellers and "oooh oohhh ahhh ahhhh" spear fishers.....

4.5Billion years and couple of 100,000 yr old humans are the advanced species existed?

Human have old been around...0.00045% of earths life....

in that 0.00045%....2000yrs ago is 0.00000045%, and we can't even accurate say what happened 2000yrs ago...........ppft.

I do not believe in alien intervention or anything... i just believe humans have cycled thru civilization and destruction countless times on earth, some are high advanced thus now, some could have been lower tier.

Originally posted by Tuttle
No evidence for it, that is generaly why we think, dont know for sure, but think they did not have sky scrapers and cellphones. There is no evidence for it. Generaly when there is no evidence for something, we do not generaly accept it as being true. On account of there being zero evidence.

They would have absolutely no clues or evidence that we went to Mars or had cities

Pretty sure when they find the wreckage of industrial cargo container ships and crude carriers the length of 4 football pitches, they would more than likely piece it together.

edit on 20-2-2013 by Tuttle because: (no reason given)

Even if they did have skyscrapers and modern technology like us there is absolutely no way there would be evidence of it now.
How would a tanker survive 100~ million years??
Modern buildings and structures would not even outlast the pyramids, so how can you expect them to last millions of years? A tanker would rust away in no time leaving no traces...

Some satellites will be in orbit around earth for billions of years...

Since 1963, more than eight hundred spacecraft have been launched into geosynchronous orbit, forming a man-made ring of satellites around the Earth. These satellites are destined to become the longest-lasting artifacts of human civilization, quietly floating through space long after every trace of humanity has disappeared from the planet.

They have placed a time capsule on one of them for the last pictures project.

Trevor Paglen’s The Last Pictures is a project that marks one of these spacecraft with a visual record of our contemporary historical moment. Paglen spent five years interviewing scientists, artists, anthropologists, and philosophers to consider what such a cultural mark should be. Working with materials scientists at Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Paglen developed an artifact designed to last billions of years—an ultra-archival disc, micro-etched with one hundred photographs and encased in a gold-plated shell. In Fall 2012, the communications satellite EchoStar XVI will launch into geostationary orbit with the disc mounted to its anti-earth deck. While the satellite’s broadcast images are as fleeting as the light-speed radio waves they travel on, The Last Pictures will remain in outer space slowly circling the Earth until the Earth itself is no more.

Some more info and a video here at vimeo: vimeo.com...

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reply to post by luciddream

Survive few thousands years maybe, but not over 100-200 million years, Heck humans can't even comprehend that amount of time.. our peak of technological advanced is only 400yrs.... not even a pixel in the grand scheme.

We find lithic tools from man from millions of years ago. We find and identify traces of food from tens of thousands of years ago. We can determine the gut contents of hundreds of millions of years old creatures. This disappear without a trace claim is false.

reply to post by StratosFear

If human intelligence was develpoed by natural means in the few thousands of years we`ve been here, why could a reptialian race not develop intelligence to form civilization as well?

Why would "GOD"/ancient astronuats/ETs choose mammals for developing rather than reptiles?

If monkeys could evolve into human, why not reptiles?

Also, if the planet Earth went through an event that caused its crust to liquify and turn molten, how could we ever tell a super ancient highly technical civilization/race existed?

Your time scale of a few thousand years is way wrong.

No one chose us.

Monkeys and humans share a common ancestor. Mammals evolved from reptiles.

The Earth remelted billions of years ago. It has had a solid crust for over 3.8By.

reply to post by luciddream

I do not believe in alien intervention or anything... i just believe humans have cycled thru civilization and destruction countless times on earth, some are high advanced thus now, some could have been lower tier.

The fossil evidence says that is not true. There is no evidence for a long ago advanced civilization.

reply to post by WormwoodSquirm


Enjoyed reading your thread op, the premise
is an Interesting one that fits other times too.

reply to post by juleol

Even if they did have skyscrapers and modern technology like us there is absolutely no way there would be evidence of it now.
How would a tanker survive 100~ million years??
Modern buildings and structures would not even outlast the pyramids, so how can you expect them to last millions of years? A tanker would rust away in no time leaving no traces...

If that were the case then should be no fossils. Fossils of soft tissues are found in many places and using your logic should not exist. It is false to claim that modern buildings would not outlast the pyramids. The pyramids are basically solid and not the modern building with great voids, but modern materials would last a long time from the aluminum to concrete to class to the contents with ceramics, plastics, etc. The foundations would be there for a very long time.

I think we would have found traces of dinosaur tech by now if they had possesed any. In his book The World Without Us Alan Weisman says that once the works of man at diverting water has been undone and alluvial plains become river beds objects such as tires, fire hydrants, apartments, and office buildings will be encapsulated in silt preserving them indefinitely unearthed eons later by new streams and rivers from new mountains.

Also radio waves, the pioneer plaques and the voyager records will likely outlive the Earth itself.

The World Without Us Page 18 & Pages 249-254