Breaking - Artificial Earthquake Detected in North Korea

reply to post by Grimpachi


Mobile Radiation Detectors were deployed by the U.S. in the U.K. as well as Satellite detection during the Olympics as this was asked for by the U.K.

The Satellites that started to be put in orbit in 2005 are a very public secret as there existence was for some reason disclosed and it is thought that the Corp. that holds this contract used the Olympics as a promotional oppertunity.

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reply to post by Angelic Resurrection


One would think that a sealed Lead Box or the like would be able to block any detection of Nuclear Fuel inside. My understanding of this is that one of the various Radiation Emmisions whether it be Neutron Decay or Gamma or X-Ray's...will interact with the Electron Orbital Fields that surround the Atomic Nucleus of say the Lead that makes up a container or other such material capable of shielding radiation.

This interaction causes the containment vessel to obtain a specific Quantum Vibrationary State that is specific to some Radioactive Nuclear Fuel being inside it. Then...and I am not up on this part completely...a broadcast of either Microwave Radiation of specific Frequency Radar is reflected of it and then returned and analized by networked Supercomputers which can tell exactly what is inside per the Vibrationary State.

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reply to post by Adaluncatif


They did not have the ability to design an Implosion Plutonium device as they can hardly even build the Gun Barrel device now. You need exact calculations to construct the explosive shell tiles as well as have them detonate exactly on time to create Implosion. The North could not do this then and they most likely cannot do this now.

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reply to post by Bedlam


They are curently using Uranium. They have Plutonium but since Plutonium Implosion is complex and a Gun Barrel Plutonium Device needs to be too long...they have not used Plutonium.

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reply to post by Semicollegiate


The Gun Barrel Design is only viable when using Uranium as when using Plutonium the Gun Barrel Design must be MUCH longer and this length makes this design too long for practicle use.

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reply to post by Wrabbit2000


The best way to determine the reality here is to look at the logic and motive that drives them as well as their history of their actions.

North Korea would LOVE nothing more than to demonstrate to the World that they have developed a High Tech working Nuke as well as ICBM.

The reality is they have not as if they did...they would very overtly demonstrate it.

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reply to post by WormwoodSquirm


Yes it was.

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reply to post by Northwarden


This is why the U.S. no longer tests nukes except with Computers.

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reply to post by SplitInfinity
this is true, but in reality things do go wrong , and all it would take is for one nuke to get through, the Star wars project is thought to 98% dead one , that leaves 2% to get through www.mda.mil... with the Iron dome er Patriot system 90%, that leaves 10% to get through.

reply to post by bekod


The U.S. has a much better Missile defense system than the tech. you are talking about.

The SM-3 and FEL are very accurate and reliable.

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reply to post by bekod

Star wars project is thought to 98% dead one

There is no star wars project and it never approached that level even in the conceptual phase. Worried the hell out of the Soviets though.
The current doctrine is area defense.

reply to post by Phage
forgive me for saying Starwars , sounds better than The Ballistic Missile Defense System (BMDS) or saying this link www.mda.mil... from the link

The MDA has fielded an initial capability to protect the U.S and our allies against limited ballistic missile attack. The Ballistic Missile Defense System (BMDS) is becoming more integrated, robust, and global every day.

they might not be at 98% but i did give them the benefit of doubt, they could be 90%, but never 100% there is also this missilethreat.com... form the link

After two years on the ground for technical problems, an upgraded version of the system designed to protect the U.S. from ballistic missile attack is finally flying again. But the U.S. Missile Defense Agency (MDA) has significant challenges not only to employing the modernized Ground-based Midcourse Defense (GMD) system but also incrementally improving other systems that protect areas abroad.

The Boeing-led GMD missile shield executed a long-awaited flight test of the Ground-Based Interceptor (GBI), carrying an upgraded version of its hit-to-kill mechanism, after repeated slips. The Raytheon Exoatmospheric Kill Vehicle (EKV) Capability Enhancement 2 (CE 2) failed to intercept its first ballistic missile target during a December 2010 test, and since then engineers have been working to isolate and fix a high-frequency vibration issue that affected the upgraded EKV’s guidance system.

seems there is a lot of work to do, is time on our side or theirs?

reply to post by bekod

Star wars was primarily a space based concept that was unworkable. It evolved. Can you show the source of the 90% figure?

someones got some new firecrackers



dont know about you, but iran doesnt make me sweat like nk does its like handing a nuke to an 18 yr old and saying dont use it. lol he still freakin reads comic books.lol

reply to post by Phage
yes, this is for the Iron dome

Name: Iron Dome (כיפת ברזל)

Developers: Rafael Advanced Defense Systems; Elta; mPrest Systems
Target: Short-range rockets; Artillery/mortar shells (44 mile maximum distance)
Missile: Tamir Interceptor with electro-optic sensors and numerous steering fins
Cost: Battery - $50 million; Missile - $40,000
Battery Components: Tracking Radar; Battle Management & Weapon Control (BMC); Missile Firing Unit
Operational Timetable: First test- July 2009; First deployment- March 2011; First Interception- April 2011
Interceptions/Success Rate: 93 rockets at 90% interception success (as of April 2012)

Overview: Israel's first line of missile defense, designed to protect from the short range rockets adn mortars fired by Palestinian terrorists in Gaza and Hezbollah in southern Lebanon. The system has the capability to identify and destroy projectiles before they land in Israeli territory. One of the most advanced features of Iron Dome is its capability to determine where an incoming rocket will land and to then only intercept projectiles that pose threats to populated areas. In March 2012, the Iron succeeded in its first real battle test, when it intercepted more than 60 rockets fired by Hamas. Since 2010, the US has budgeted more than $800 million for Iron Dome batteries.

thought to be Patriot Missile, it is not from this link www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by Adaluncatif

 

They did not have the ability to design an Implosion Plutonium device as they can hardly even build the Gun Barrel device now. You need exact calculations to construct the explosive shell tiles as well as have them detonate exactly on time to create Implosion. The North could not do this then and they most likely cannot do this now.

Split Infinity

Aren't you the same person who said that a bunch of MIT kids could design an implosion bomb? But a nation state with scientists with decades of experience in nuclear physics, hydrodynamics, metallurgy, etc. couldn't build one. A communist state with decades of scientific and military espionage couldn't build one. They have just tested a miniaturized design, most probably using a two point implosion system which would not use a bunch of explosive lenses. They have the computer expertise to model the necessary simulations. North Korea has some of the world's best scientists. It is the height of arrogance to believe that they cannot do what they have claimed. It is possible they have designed a nuclear weapon that is far superior to anything in the US arsenal. We are in deep doo doo if the people in charge of our government think like you.

Originally posted by Adaluncatif
North Korea has some of the world's best scientists.

It is possible they have designed a nuclear weapon that is far superior to anything in the US arsenal.

I cant say your wrong or right, but how the hell in the world did you come up with these statements?

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by Angelic Resurrection

 

One would think that a sealed Lead Box or the like would be able to block any detection of Nuclear Fuel inside.

Largely true.

My understanding of this is that one of the various Radiation Emmisions whether it be Neutron Decay or Gamma or X-Ray's...will interact with the Electron Orbital Fields that surround the Atomic Nucleus of say the Lead that makes up a container or other such material capable of shielding radiation.

I don't think you should be throwing around "Orbital Fields". Really.

My understanding is that you neglected to do a few simple web searches and educate yourself on:
a) what sources of radiation can be expected in nuclear fuel
b) different ways the various types of radiation interact with matter
c) methods of shielding pertaining to same

Speaking of Bethe-Bloch formula, which describes the energy loss of a charged particle traversing a medium, you will see that it contains the "electron density of the target". That alone tells you that lead is not a unique shielding material, in fact uranium provides better shielding - of course it is mildly radioactive itself. The gamma rays exhibit a different pattern of energy loss and its dependence on the material.

This interaction causes the containment vessel to obtain a specific Quantum Vibrationary State that is specific to some Radioactive Nuclear Fuel being inside it.

Long story short -- this is baloney.

Then...and I am not up on this part completely...a broadcast of either Microwave Radiation of specific Frequency Radar is reflected of it and then returned and analized by networked Supercomputers which can tell exactly what is inside per the Vibrationary State

No.

Shielding materials used in nuclear physics and industry do not broadcast radio waves.

Speaking as a person who has taken tons of courses on the subject and was involved in the field as a professional.

Originally posted by Adaluncatif
They have the computer expertise to model the necessary simulations. North Korea has some of the world's best scientists.

Can you back this up in any way? Yes/No, and how.

Originally posted by Adaluncatif


Aren't you the same person who said that a bunch of MIT kids could design an implosion bomb? But a nation state with scientists with decades of experience in nuclear physics, hydrodynamics, metallurgy, etc. couldn't build one. A communist state with decades of scientific and military espionage couldn't build one. They have just tested a miniaturized design, most probably using a two point implosion system which would not use a bunch of explosive lenses. They have the computer expertise to model the necessary simulations. North Korea has some of the world's best scientists. It is the height of arrogance to believe that they cannot do what they have claimed. It is possible they have designed a nuclear weapon that is far superior to anything in the US arsenal. We are in deep doo doo if the people in charge of our government think like you.

I have communicated with their outpost in thailand.
Fairly savvy bunch of people

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