Humans kill animals then they eat them(true story)

being eaten by humans?

reply to post by Chopper


Since you said you're in the States and animals have no Rights.

Here is some information for you. Maybe you were not aware. You can search by State.

ASPCA State Animal Cruelty Laws

reply to post by gosseyn


Meat eaters are around 40% more likely to develop cancers and heart disease so it should be treated like smoking....you wouldn't let your kids smoke sooo.....
People knee-jerk reacted to the OP but looking at it objectively it really is horrific the way humans have relegated animals to 'meat' and industrialised the process of meat production. Then they trick kids into eating the very animals they read about and watch on films. Vultures eat cadavers, raw, they are gifted with the right tools and a nose that loves the smell of them. It should be fairly obvious we shouldn't eat it when we have to put so much effort into making it edible and disguise the taste.

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13

1 wonders if some hypothetically there were human eaters would perspectives change of other animals

I'm not quite sure what you're asking.
Animals that eat people?

reply to post by Lucid Lunacy


no like for ex: lycan/vampires and humans the effect if real like. Hmm nephilim

they may feel like people and human are animal in hypothetical terms and 1 used those 2 examples of many.

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13


If there were vampire or werewolves eating people my moral stance would not change towards animals no.

Hopefully some peoples stance on guns would change though

nephilim and guns don't mix for part flesh from EA*RTH material mix and supernatural/paranormal from their WATCHER parent home. deeper consideration

some were said to intake all flesh in their observable range and then anything else including themselves or their kinds cannibalism DUE TO THEIR BLOOD LUST/CRAVES. That's why they are bonded somewhere else? In energy/meta dwell/abyss hmm, just adding there may be some who can view humans just the same as humans view livestock and may not just look at human flesh but something more spiritual to feed-so the livestock should at least be more respected and appreciated then how some speak of them here...

Originally posted by gosseyn


Did you know that human beings actually KILL other animals to EAT them ? Don't you find that disgusting ? They even have built factories to INDUSTRIALISE the process of killing the other sentient animals and chop them in small portions that they pack in plastic. WOW. At first I didn't want to believe it but I have seen the proofs. It's 100% true. They eat dead corpses of animals that are made of exactly the same stuff as them, and almost every human being find that this is totally normal. They even encourage their own LITTLE CHILDREN to eat dead corpses of other sentient beings, imagine that... I mean, what do they have in mind ?? Can't they just think for one second ? I am truly out of words..

I have a question:

Do you know the definition of sentient vs. the definition of conscious? I think you mean conscious.

I don't eat dolphins or elephants or whales. Those, AFAICT, are the only other sentient beings on this ball o' mud.

Besides, whatever happened to my poor, sentient cabbage? Some &&$% ate it! The bastard!

maybe based on their perspective as far as sentient and conscious. but if a species is aware and technologically advanced they should work for better ways as would humans want the same, right... if that was the case

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to close a young species yes inquires many embarrassments as it craws-then stumbles-walks-then flies
but thru time should eventually extinguish the embarrassments the more
AWARE the species of interest becomes- thru self education or exterior assistance
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reply to post by luciddream


guess that goes out the window with venus fly trap ^^

Wow. What an incredible revelation! You mean, humans, like all other creatures on the planet, need to kill to survive? Ya don't say?

Originally posted by Wrabbit2000
reply to post by gosseyn

 

Umm... Not to point out the obvious or anything but take a good look in a mirror this morning. See those sharp pointy thingys on either side of your top front teeth? They're called Canine teeth and they're designed to bite, tear and devour meat. Our systems are not set up for eating plants. We're not herbivores, we're carnivores.

Vegan (gorilla):

My cat kills animals every day too. Can you send her a copy of this?

and all the animals kill plants and animals too? try a diet of rocks, post a youtube everyday on your trials, and get back to us with the outcome? ^^

Originally posted by seamus
I have a question:

Do you know the definition of sentient vs. the definition of conscious? I think you mean conscious.

I don't eat dolphins or elephants or whales. Those, AFAICT, are the only other sentient beings on this ball o' mud.

Besides, whatever happened to my poor, sentient cabbage? Some &&$% ate it! The bastard!

Now we're getting into semantics. Sentience and consciousness are two very similar terms, and the term sentience arguably applies to many many more nonhuman animals than you are listing. The point is: Do they suffer? Do they feel pain? Do they feel joy? Can they be happy? Do they love? Do they have personalities? Do they remember? Can they think, even if at a rudimentary level? If the answer to most of these question is 'yes' -- whether you call it consciousness, sentience, or both -- then we are morally obliged to respect their interests. Only in cases where killing is necessary, like self-defense, should we be allowed to take the life from a nonhuman animal. .

reply to post by gosseyn

I intend to add to your horror by informing you that I raise animals for the sole purpose of ingesting either their meat or (gasp) their eggs! I also raise my own vegetables which are meant for my consumption as well as consumption by the meat on legs.

Originally posted by spaceinvaders

Originally posted by seamus
I have a question:

Do you know the definition of sentient vs. the definition of conscious? I think you mean conscious.

I don't eat dolphins or elephants or whales. Those, AFAICT, are the only other sentient beings on this ball o' mud.

Besides, whatever happened to my poor, sentient cabbage? Some &&$% ate it! The bastard!

Now we're getting into semantics. Sentience and consciousness are two very similar terms, and the term sentience arguably applies to many many more nonhuman animals than you are listing. The point is: Do they suffer? Do they feel pain? Do they feel joy? Can they be happy? Do they love? Do they have personalities? Do they remember? Can they think, even if at a rudimentary level? If the answer to most of these question is 'yes' -- whether you call it consciousness, sentience, or both -- then we are morally obliged to respect their interests. Only in cases where killing is necessary, like self-defense, should we be allowed to take the life from a nonhuman animal. .

While you may be partially right, most of these conscious beings you refer to do the same exact thing to survive. Why aren't they obligated to respect their prey's wishes? Do you really KNOW that a plant doesn't feel pain when you uproot it and cook it? You are still killing something that is alive. Whether sentient / conscious or not life is life, and survival and competition is the way that nature works. Tell a lion to become a vegan and you have given it a death sentence. It also won't listen and will probably eat you if need be. Animals don't think on the level we do, so asking people to respect their "wishes" doesn't really add up. Some animals might kind of understand the concept of desire and emotions, but most just want to survive and procreate. Humans are animals just like them, so why should they act any differently?

I do agree that we do consume excessively and that our practices of mass production of animal meat are barbaric in some places, which is why I try to buy my meat from local organic farmers that use humane practices. It's not always affordable, though but that's really a different discussion.