Humans kill animals then they eat them(true story)

Oh you poor little hippy, why dont you go to Africa and say hello to Mr. Tiger and give him a nice bouqet of flowers while he rips your flesh apart. Poor baby.

reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan


I once saw Steamed Sponge at a restaurant. It made me wonder how hungry the first person who ate it had to be. They were reduced to such a state they could not even cook it thoroughly, just steamed it. Maybe he/she saw it in a bucket of hot water while cleaning one day and thought hmm.....I am feeling kinda' peckish. I wonder.....

Originally posted by ABNARTY
reply to post by bigfatfurrytexan

 

I once saw Steamed Sponge at a restaurant. It made me wonder how hungry the first person who ate it had to be. They were reduced to such a state they could not even cook it thoroughly, just steamed it. Maybe he/she saw it in a bucket of hot water while cleaning one day and thought hmm.....I am feeling kinda' peckish. I wonder.....

He saw a steamed sponge in a bucket of water and thought, "Hmmm, i should wash those dishes!!!"

Maybe he ate the steamed sponge because he kept complaining about what the lady of the cave was cooking? So she threw the dishsponge at him and VOILA!!! Haut Cuisine was born, neolithic style!

Knock the horns off it,wipe its bum and put it on my plate.

MMMMMMMmm tasty.

Thanks for the post, I had no idea.

reply to post by LightAssassin

This is ridiculous. I'm pointing out that plants show much of what animals show when malnourished and suffering.

Show much? Or as much? Those are very important distinctions.

For instance if that was asked to me concerning a human and a cat. I would say the human shows more.

If asked what shows more the grass or the grasshopper. I would say the grasshopper.

Again. It is my position that many here are being disingenuous when they word it as though people attribute equal amounts of sentience to these various creatures and plants.

Many here are essentially saying why do you (vegetarian) not feel bad for "murdering" plants. My point is the return of that question to the omnivore...why don't you?. The answer to that 'why' is what my posts have been in context to. The answer is the same for both vegetarian and omnivore...we both don't view killing plants in that way.

You might find me ridiculous. Honestly that's completely fine! I think it's ridiculous to say a wilting chili pepper plant shows as much suffering as a goat dying from thirst.

Originally posted by superman2012
There is research to suggest that vegetable feel pain...what are we supposed to eat now?

There is microscopic sentient life everywhere too...should I stop breathing as well?

If we weren't made to eat meat, it wouldn't taste so good to us...even with no BBQ sauce.

We eat mammals, our own kind. When you clean your turkey in the sink it feels just like your kid in the bath.

Boogers taste good to kids too, doesn't make it the food of choice to your body.

Originally posted by gosseyn


Did you know that human beings actually KILL other animals to EAT them ? Don't you find that disgusting ? They even have built factories to INDUSTRIALISE the process of killing the other sentient animals and chop them in small portions that they pack in plastic. WOW. At first I didn't want to believe it but I have seen the proofs. It's 100% true. They eat dead corpses of animals that are made of exactly the same stuff as them, and almost every human being find that this is totally normal. They even encourage their own LITTLE CHILDREN to eat dead corpses of other sentient beings, imagine that... I mean, what do they have in mind ?? Can't they just think for one second ? I am truly out of words..

Did this suddenly dawn on you? Have you been living in darkness in your parents basement? I like eating certain animals and I do not think it's that disgusting. I am not a vegan or vegetarian in any manner and proud of it. Believe me, There are a lot more disgusting things in the world than this.

reply to post by NorEaster


well, there's the octopus and, in some parts of the world, people eat chimpanzees

I'm a voracious meat eater but I really do get the feeling its wrong

it amazes me how people are stuck on the idea that life is something besides suffering. killing a plant is no different from killing an animal- its still the act of KILLING. driving a Prius is still using oil, no matter how many peace bumperstickers are on it. we can not live without something else dying: energy can not be created nor destroyed.

supposedly, mankind's first diet was bone marrow, scavenged from the remains of kills. we then began to eat meat, not grains (see: paleolithic diet). the accusations that vegetarianism is a "luxury argument" is all too true.

what about fish? they do not have a central nervous system but obviously feel pain. how can you explain that the omega fatty acids in fish are a PERFECT match for the needs of the human brain?

having been vegan for 6 years, fruititarian 2 years, and a vegetarian for much longer I can honestly say that putting so much energy into food (something I "think" I can control in my life) is a waste of my energy. like Jesus has been attributed to have said: its more important what comes out of your mouth than what goes into it. Babies are all about food but we're supposed to grow up. even Buddhists arent vegetarians: the Buddha's last meal was tainted pork, which he knew, yet ate anyhow. how about them apples?

oh- and plants have the same consciousness as animals. it's OUR limitations- not theirs- which make them seem different. if you grow a plant with love it will be happy to be eaten. this is true. ("The Secret Life Of Plants")

I'm still baffled at how this thread has received any attention.

This just in: Water comes from LAKES, not bottles. Massive uproar, people want answers, MSM blackout.

I'm glad people are 'waking' up to where their FOOD comes from... But my god people.

All life leaches off of death.

::::eating a chicken I raised and killed for supper tonight.

I don't like the industrialized killing. I'm not sure it is a necessary evil like most people I know. Oh, to profit, it probably is. But to feed our people, nah. I don't think so. Only if we insist on stacking people on top of each other so that they are useless at feeding themselves.

reply to post by gosseyn


As a famous funny guy once said...."If God didnt want man to eat amimals then why did he make them out of meat?"

Are we not Animals as well? We are mammals, we may be the most highly developed, but we are animals all the same. What is disgusting about animals eating other animals? If a Lion eats a Gazzelle, is that disgusting? If that lion had the mental capacity to herd up all the gazzelles inside a fence so he wouldn't have to chase them down all the time, he'd do it.

The ridiculousness of the Op is pathetic.

reply to post by gosseyn


Heck yeah!!
In fact tonight I am having lasagna, now here is the cool part, I took regular cow meat that was murdered in a factory and ground it down even futher to almost a paste!
I add this to my marinara and consume the whole thing!
Tomorrow I think we will just have fairly thin cut slabs of dead animal too!
Ain't it awesome to be at the top o the food chain??

reply to post by Lucid Lunacy


Why wouldn't we need to eat meat now? What has changed in the human body that it no longer needs meat? Nothing has changed. The only argument I would agree with any vegetarian is the way meat is produced these days, meat farms. Americans definitely need to work on having a better diet and stay away from fake sugars and processed foods.

Originally posted by gosseyn
Did you know that human beings actually KILL other animals to EAT them ?

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yes gosseyn, the current human environment suit (body) has been designed to intake flora/fauna materials of EA*RTH. Many recognize the disgust you are sharing within the OP. This is why as the species develops more awareness of the Fauna life as it is and advances it may begin to avoid these ways to cycle life-force energy to survive...

Originally posted by gosseyn
Don't you find that disgusting ?

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yes 1 does as do many who have to feed like this to survive. Is there a better way gossyen to feed the population of Man other then current ways?

Originally posted by gosseyn
They even have built factories to INDUSTRIALISE the process of killing the other sentient animals and chop them in small portions that they pack in plastic. WOW. At first I didn't want to believe it but I have seen the proofs. It's 100% true.

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It is true and has been recognized by part of the population and thus other methods have and are being practiced in order to better deal with this issue. Many of us have felt wrong about this since youth when we realized what was going on and how (old mc Donald's farm) was where our food came from. Its part of the ills but as of now part of the current population has been exposed to this type of feeding for many generations, so its hard to place judgment upon them due to them being taught -observing this can go both ways yes irony many am sure understand- these ways to feed.

Again if there were or are a better alternatives that could suffice the population feeding process where the population accepts the food also and is not turned away due to its potential attributes these alternatives may be accepted. This is why 1 asked do you know a better way to feed a population already designed to intake so many minerals/vitamins ect. energy absorbed from the food interest in this op? This is why the population eats otherwise there would be slim chance of survival w/o the assistance of some unknown energy(s) helping the population to LEARN better ways to sustain itself...

Originally posted by gosseyn
They eat dead corpses of animals that are made of exactly the same stuff as them, and almost every human being find that this is totally normal.

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In reference to above post this is how the population survives. No 1 is not condoning the behavior at all but without better alternatives what is the answer to support survival gosseyn? And yes 1 knows of the Georgia Guide stones data of the 500,000,000, but also know clear guidance for some, can do that and live off EA*RTH in Peace, in Space Bases that orbit like Luna? And still maintain the balance written for here and visit here. But 1 guesses it all based on the perspective of the evaluating energy Watching the food consumption here.

Originally posted by gosseyn
They even encourage their own LITTLE CHILDREN to eat dead corpses of other sentient beings, imagine that... I mean, what do they have in mind ?? Can't they just think for one second ? I am truly out of words..

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Yes 1 is guilty of this as well otherwise the environment suits (body) in which my children exist would not of grown here, so what better alternative then would you of recommended for 1 to feed them. Yes 1 admits to the ignorance and wishes there was a better way. But as of now humanity does what it can with what it can. There are different sects controlling and managing the lower populations who make up the majority food intake. They know what sells and how best to sell it. And if yes better MASS alternatives exist but make no money of course these process will be withheld or not shared if there is no financial gain for those who manage mass food distribution. So with these current settings to exist within how again may 1 ask shall the population receive better feeding standards when the mass population is not in control of the foods being distributed???

gosseyn, you touch on a very important topic and many including 1 feel the negativity and possible Karma associated with slaughterhouses of various animal kinds and have shared what we can, like engineered animal husk w/o the neuron system only the circulatory system to keep husk parts sustained and minimal other related systems to allow husk circ flow. Or like in the old future movies tastey past filled with proper nutrients- or mineral filled biodegradable materials that carry taste and and nutrients to environment suits (bodies) why providing the traditional chewing swallowing feelings until the population is better weaned off, deleting the need to intake sentient life anymore....... So "We" are thinking and if there are any who can help 1 is sure it would be appreciated.. Its not like the species of MAN doesn't want and strive to do better, you know

NAMASTE*******

reply to post by Swills

Why wouldn't we need to eat meat now?

Some do out of economical necessity. My point is some are in positions, fortunate for them of course, to make that transition of they so desire.

What has changed in the human body that it no longer needs meat?

This question is predicated on the idea the human body needs meat to be healthy. Put another way. There is essential nutrition exclusive to meat. That's not the case. As a I mentioned before there are countless examples of healthy vegetarians. I myself am one of 9 years.

The only argument I would agree with any vegetarian is the way meat is produced these days, meat farms.

That's perfectly okay. I certainly would never want to force anyone, only to offer arguments. I am a vegetarian on moral grounds, based on my own understanding of morality, and factory farms certainly broach that. As I said, I hope for the food industry to drastically become more human in the treatment of animals used for food. When I am 'activist' it's towards that. I encourage people to get different meat, and not forgo it.

I am only speaking on behalf of the moral grounds for vegetarianism now because it's an Internet forum and people asked ethical questions and that interests me. I don't think I should be viewed as being pushy with what I am saying.

reply to post by Ophiuchus 13

Is there a better way gossyen to feed the population of Man other then current ways?

Generally speaking there is a better way for every system we have. Whether food, or government, or energy or religion or space travel or... Yes there is a better way. It would take support, time, and money. I don't think we should surrender to the idea we can't or shouldn't make foundational changes in society.

That said. Right now. For some there isn't. I agree.

I have to say, I'm neither for nor against Veganism. For four years of my life while playing Rugby, I was a vegan. I did this for a number of reasons. One it kept, my metabolism up, reduced cramping and fatigue, provided me with a "Fast" figure. It's a common misconception around those who are not Vegan, that you will be weak and frail and this simply isn't true. Both "Diets" can be effective if done right. A good benefit for athletes that want to be vegan is, less processed foods are available to you. You have to put more effort into what you eat, to avoid the certain animal products, and balance your diet more effectively than you would if you ate animal products. How many of you put a meal together using pre-packaged store bought foods? Do you understand how damaging some of those additives can be to you, even with a " Proper diet?"

It can be beneficial either way, if you do it "right." Eating, proper portions of meats, fruits, vegetables, and grains can be really good for you but 90% of do not. So even the Vegans who don't exercise or balance their diets properly are likely healthier than those that do it meat. Even if they are doing it to be self righteous pompous hippy douche bags. lol

It never hurts to think about these things, some people really shouldn't eat meat, and could benefit greatly by taking the plunge.

During my rugby days I was 5'11" 166lbs, nearly pure muscle. I could sprint the whole game and never lose my breath, no cramps, no late game fatigue. My metabolism, blood pressure, heart rate and circulation were exceptional. Playing in the snow I didn't have cold fingers or toes.

Being a Vegan may not be your choice, but I wouldn't bash it any day any time. I choose not to eat this way now, (mostly because of money and time. It's very time consuming to plan and HEALTHY Vegan meals.) but I do strongly believe it is a Healthier choice than almost every modern North American Diet. If you happen to raise your own meat, and grow your own food preparing everything from scratch ( No packaged products.) Then you may be able to contend. I'm not pushing the vegan diet on anyone, but you shouldn't be bashing it either.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


No, humans are omnivores not carnivores, we were not built to only eat meat.

Take a look at a cat's mouth and then look at a human's mouth, and you'll the difference.