Sandy Hook Smoking Gun, Did CNN Really show a drill at St. Rose Pre-School as live Sandy Hook?

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by Starling
Forgive my question, dear Overlord, but what is the point of this forum, ATS, if members of the general public and members of ATS are not allowed to debate their opposing views about SH, here, on this site?
Where are we supposed to do this...on MSM?

The action would not be unprecedented. We often remove new topics on the "No Planes" theory with regard to 9/11, and all known pre-existing threads on that subject are in the hoax forum.

Frankly, lately I loath visiting ATS for fear of another stupid Sandy Hook thread that is embarrassing to all those who seek to create smart topics on ATS.

Seriously... I'm close to loosing faith.

Loosing faith in what exactly? Your "beloved ATS" always discusses everything under the sun that is "rediculous and insane" to well over 90% of our population. Every topic imaginable has been fair game and will go on for as long as they live. Why is this topic suddenly different than all the rest?

Why would you shut down the chance to discuss every possibility regarding Sandy Hook? It makes zero sense? Afterall, this is your CONSPIRACY site that you say you really love. I've got a great idea. Lets talk about any conspiracy that the members decide are relevant.

It appears that's it's not loved by you, because it allows freedom of speach and discussion of any current and popular conspiracy theory? If not, why not? Why is this site called "Above Top Secret" that discusses "popular conspiracy theories"? Quite frankly, this is an embarassing stance by you and your staff.

Or is my suggestion "maddening" to you?

Originally posted by SkepticOverlord

Originally posted by Starling
Forgive my question, dear Overlord, but what is the point of this forum, ATS, if members of the general public and members of ATS are not allowed to debate their opposing views about SH, here, on this site?
Where are we supposed to do this...on MSM?

The action would not be unprecedented. We often remove new topics on the "No Planes" theory with regard to 9/11, and all known pre-existing threads on that subject are in the hoax forum.

Frankly, lately I loath visiting ATS for fear of another stupid Sandy Hook thread that is embarrassing to all those who seek to create smart topics on ATS.

Seriously... I'm close to losing faith.

edit on 20-1-2013 by SkepticOverlord because: typo

Judging from the response to the above quoted post, I would say the decision has already been made to close this thread. There was no mention of closure in the quoted post but it sure became the topic in the response! Just saying!

reply to post by SkepticOverlord
Why are you afraid?

The no planes theory from 9/11 was silly because we saw planes, live on television.

But in this, no one here saw anything. That is a big difference. Not even first responders saw anything.
Let's come to grips with that.

How do you personally know that this happened as accurately as they say it did enough to take a stand against your site's membership and close their threads, which otherwise adhere to T&C?

It's not a fad nor fun asking questions about what happened that day. If people want to hop on bandwagon and go along to get along, that's their choice.

I have watched ATS generate valuable new membership recently.
In some instances, existing members created threads asking such simple question such as, "Where is the Surveillance Footage?" that brought in like minds.

Yet you are afraid of seeing new Sandy Hook threads... Interesting.

Regards.

reply to post by Sek82

I doubt anyone here cares that membership has grown on the backs of these theories of children never dying. Its disgusting.

And you say first responders SAY they never saw anything... Really? That's new to me. Any real evidence behind that?

:::Off topic:::
I was just recently in a discussion on This thread and they mention the date of his death was on the 13th...now the thread is closed...that is information that needs reviewed and discussed...Sek82 check your messages please.

On topic:
The MSM didn't give any footage from the hysteria or EMS for either the drill nor the SHE incident...

Originally posted by Gltichy
:::Off topic:::
I was just recently in a discussion on This thread and they mention the date of his death was on the 13th...now the thread is closed...that is information that needs reviewed and discussed...

On topic:
The MSM didn't give any footage from the hysteria or EMS for either the drill nor the SHE incident...

Because that was utter nonsense.

reply to post by bknapple32


Really?! Why come to these threads just to derail them and debunk them simply by you saying they are nonsense? If you don't like the topic, get ghost dude...just seeing your avatar in a thread makes me not want to discuss anything in said thread. You have absolutely nothing to add to this topic other than being the guy shaking his head and saying "nope, didn't happen, that's just silly." The thread was closed before it could even been given an opportunity to prove true or false. So all that does is give information, that could easily be debunked or proven true, to become fact based on rumor, because we have to take it at face value if we can't find said source...

This thread is getting off topic...let's move back to the topic at hand.

Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by Sek82

 

And you say first responders SAY they never saw anything... Really? That's new to me. Any real evidence behind that?

Did you see the yellow and red tarps in front of the school from the helicopter footage, the empty ones? That was a casualty collection point.

Did you notice the EMTs standing around with hands in pockets?
They were the first medical responders to get there.

They were turned away from the scene, I thought that was fairly common knowledge by now.
Take care!

Were I Sherlock Holmes, I would entertain the idea that Adam Lanza was ended at home along side his mother and his body was moved to the scene of the OTHER crime. But of coarse, I am not Holmes now, am I?

Now why would Lanza wear a mask again?......hmmmmm

reply to post by Gltichy


I'll spend every last moment of free time if I have to, to debunk this drivel. Just because one opens a thread here with a theory, does NOT give them immunity from scrutiny and skepticism. So if you dont like the fact that I am on SH threads and debunking them, then too bad. I do not care.

Like this thread, all it took was 3 minutes of research to see that there was NO DRILL at St Rose, there was a scare at the school. See how easy it is to debunk this nonsense.

Originally posted by bknapple32

Originally posted by Gltichy
:::Off topic:::
I was just recently in a discussion on This thread and they mention the date of his death was on the 13th...now the thread is closed...that is information that needs reviewed and discussed...

On topic:
The MSM didn't give any footage from the hysteria or EMS for either the drill nor the SHE incident...

Because that was utter nonsense.

Are you sure that was nonsense, Bk?

Originally posted by Sek82

Originally posted by bknapple32
reply to post by Sek82

 

And you say first responders SAY they never saw anything... Really? That's new to me. Any real evidence behind that?

Did you see the yellow and red tarps in front of the school from the helicopter footage, the empty ones? That was a casualty collection point.

Did you notice the EMTs standing around with hands in pockets?
They were the first medical responders to get there.

They were turned away from the scene, I thought that was fairly common knowledge by now.
Take care!

Because the only survivor was taken to the hospital right away. That was what was so devastatingly sad about the situation. 99% of the gunshot victims were dead. Those emt's had nothing to do because Adam Lanza stole souls in the form of multiple gunshots to each of his innocent victims. Why dont you get that?

reply to post by Sek82


Yes I am very sure. Because that website is wrong. Simple. Its a website. Not an official death certificate. Its just a friggen website!

reply to post by Sek82


Aww...beat me to it...However, this isn't the death certificate...this is just a database that has to be entered in manually by a human, whom can make errors...The only way I can call this definitive is to see the official certificate. I did find that info though, thanks anyways

Back to the topic at hand

Sources:

theintelhub.com... r-engaged-in-treason-against-the-united-states-and-its-citizens/

cnn.com.../video/us/2012/12/15/ac-ct-shooting-recap.cnn

"Take a very close look at the video starting at 1:02 into it. You will notice the police running through a cross walk area that simply does not exist at Sandy Hook Elementary. Take note of the rounded curb area that leads into a grassy area of some sort with a tree present in the center of the grassy area. This area does not exist on Sandy Hook Elementary Schools property..."

reply to post by Gltichy
Oh I certainly agree, I figured the "just a website" gets its data from somewhere...
It proves nothing, indeed.

But it's another piece of the puzzle.
Better add it to the building pile.

I did have a link in my bookmarks that discussed the drill at the preschool...but it's 404'd now...so I have that stuff instead...

It was supposedly going on from 9am - 4pm on Dec 14th...The video footage from CNN, is in fact, not Sandy Hook Elementary...

reply to post by Gltichy


It was not a drill. There was another threat at another school on the same day. Its as simple as that. AS stated MULTIPLE times on this thread and others

I find it really weird that a state trooper HQ is only 6.6 miles from the school...

Map

Originally posted by ajay59
Were I Sherlock Holmes, I would entertain the idea that Adam Lanza was ended at home along side his mother and his body was moved to the scene of the OTHER crime. But of coarse, I am not Holmes now, am I?

Now why would Lanza wear a mask again?......hmmmmm

edit on 21-1-2013 by ajay59 because: to add

In light of new evidence, Holmes might suggest Adams early demise may have given reason to plant another's ID on him after being moved to the scene in question. But then again, Holmes was only a fictional sleuth!

reply to post by Gltichy


Do you really want me to list off all the schools that happen to be less than 7 miles away from a police headquarters? Heck my elementary school in a little village called Clarendon Hills, ILL was down the street from a police headquarters