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Originally posted by joesomebody
This whole thread is a large ball of out of context reading of the Bible...
Originally posted by joesomebody
God is love.
Originally posted by joesomebody
I'm not going to argue or refute the flawed logic in this thread, because most of it speaks for itself
"The important point, however, is that this is not intended to be a historical record, an intellectual work or literary effort, it falls short of these and is rather a coherent and consistent body of spiritual teachings...."
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by SimonPeter
Oh! Well that changes everything! If the Bible says it happened it must be true! Even though we know that the Hebrews were never captives in Egypt and that the Hebrews claimed credit for their people and their god for just about every event that took place, like the creation of the universe and secret houses for midwives, and his angels having sex and procreating with earth girls, we must believe it all to be true!
You know what? Even if there was a Pharaoh that was worried about overpopulation 3500 years ago, that doesn't justify the murderous rampages that the Hebrews perpetrated for centuries all through the middle east, and still justify, using their god, to this day!
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Logarock
Where did he say it's better for some to burn? Could you site a verse or something? I thought Jesus came to heal the sick? If I'm "sick", then why would Jesus say it's better for me to burn? Kinda goes against his whole mission don't you think?
John 8
7 Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[a] They will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Logarock
Jesus never confessed to being Yahweh's son, he never even mentioned Yahweh by name.
John 8
7 Therefore Jesus said again, “Very truly I tell you, I am the gate for the sheep. 8 All who have come before me are thieves and robbers, but the sheep have not listened to them. 9 I am the gate; whoever enters through me will be saved.[a] They will come in and go out, and find pasture. 10 The thief comes only to steal and kill and destroy; I have come that they may have life, and have it to the full.
Notice how Jesus says that ALL that came before him were thieves, not just few but all. Yahweh is part of this all because Jesus didn't come until after him.
Also, notice how he says that the thief steals, kills, and destroys. This is the topic at hand, that Yahweh stole, killed, and destroyed. It's all in the scripture, so you cannot deny he did those things. Jesus' description of the thief fits perfectly with Yahweh.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Logarock
Didn't Yahweh take control by force? The OT is littered with the atrocities he committed.
You obviously don't read very well, so let me clarify. Jesus said that >>ALL
Man you ALWAYS get it wrong. It wasnt about overpopulation. It was political and cultrual conflict.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by SimonPeter
Where did you read that?
Exodus chapter one is about the death of Joseph who was a mighty man in Egypt and after a new king arose in Egypt that did not know Joseph or his contributions to Egypt . The new King saw that the Jews had multiplied exceedingly and the Egyptians were about to be outnumbered .
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Logarock
So Yahweh is excluded from "all" that came before him? How did you come to that conclusion?
No comment on how the thief stole, killed, and destroyed just like Yahweh did? Or are you going to continue to ignore it?edit on 3-2-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)edit on 3-2-2013 by 3NL1GHT3N3D1 because: (no reason given)
all (ôl)
adj.
1. Being or representing the entire or total number, amount, or quantity: All the windows are open. Deal all the cards. See Synonyms at whole.
2. Constituting, being, or representing the total extent or the whole: all Christendom.
3. Being the utmost possible of: argued the case in all seriousness.
4. Every: got into all manner of trouble.
5. Any whatsoever: beyond all doubt.
6. Pennsylvania Finished; used up: The apples are all. See Regional Note at gum band.
7. Informal Being more than one: Who all came to the party? See Regional Note at you-all.
n.
The whole of one's fortune, resources, or energy; everything one has: The brave defenders gave their all.
pron.
1. The entire or total number, amount, or quantity; totality: All of us are sick. All that I have is yours.
2. Everyone; everything: justice for all.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Akragon
It's news to me too. Apparently he knows more about me than myself.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Akragon
It's news to me too. Apparently he knows more about me than myself.