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Originally posted by windword
reply to post by SimonPeter
HA!
Moses started out as a murderer, and then graduated to a mass murderer!
Originally posted by harbinger168
The only problem I have with debating the accuracy of these religious stories is that
1) Jesus Christ is an archetype who has existed in other cultures and in fact most of his story was derived from other cultures with minor variations.
2) Religious institutions, as noted by David Graeber, were central to the state's accounting and finance. The point of creating stories of immense proportions is to overwhelm an unsuspecting population into a means of control.
3) The Bible is a patch-work assembly of stories and allegories intended to do the same thing.. consolidate power and authority under religious institutions. The Club of Rome today are considered by many to still be the power brokers in the world. Why would have Hitler, a rothschild funded dictator, would have wanted to assassinate Pope Pius XII? The money trail leads back to the people who are influencing the most minds. Why wouldn't it?
Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
As I see it, Yahweh, the god of the bible, is in fact none other than the Great Deceiver himself, Satan. A far cry from the loving and compassionate god that his deceived followers claim he is, the bible pretty much says he is an ego-maniacal god of war and tyranny who if not obeyed, claims he will send you into eternal torture. He rules via fear and intimidation as tyrants do. He requires death for the smallest of infractions, and even demands the murder of entire cities/nations for arbitrary reasons.
Originally posted by windword
Originally posted by OldSkullJedi
reply to post by CaticusMaximus
what's so deceptive about esoterics, word play, symbolism undefined, refined and a book that could be defined in a few simple words for living a good life
"do unto others as you would have them do unto you; know thyself"
pretty much summarizes the good book without all the mathematical flamescript jibba jabba?
You have chosen a quote, to sum up the entire Bible, that is completely out of character with the prescribed Jewish law. It was, is fact, a Buddhist saying 500 years before the appearance of Jesus, who is credited with this statement.
The Old Testament and its laws are based on the premise that the Hebrew, Yahweh fearing people, were superior to the pagans and the heathens that populated the areas that the self proclaimed chosen people raided and pillaged, and who's populations were murdered, enslaved and / or raped as the spoils of war. "Do unto others" would have been rejected as absolutely counter to their beliefs and goals.
Originally posted by SimonPeter
reply to post by Logarock
Do you know how many very educated people have written supposed highly researched books that dispute the Bible as plagiarised or totally fiction . These people eat that junk up like candy.
2nd Timothy chapter 4 ;
For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lust shall they heap to themselves teachers , having itching ears .
How true today was this piece of scripture that was written 2,000 years ago.
Well you see the folks living in that area were so fouled up that they needed to taste some of their own cooking. You know so they could learn that evil was being returned with evil from the lord. So the lord ever poetic, took a nation of slaves and gave then vent over a contryside full of rottened out cultures that were good for nothing save child killing, raping, slave traiding, devil loving earth scum, and wiped them from the face of the earth.....save for a few that made good with them.
Years later when Israel became a rottened out culture God had their a##es removed as well and in the same fashion.
Originally posted by windword
reply to post by Logarock
Well you see the folks living in that area were so fouled up that they needed to taste some of their own cooking. You know so they could learn that evil was being returned with evil from the lord. So the lord ever poetic, took a nation of slaves and gave then vent over a contryside full of rottened out cultures that were good for nothing save child killing, raping, slave traiding, devil loving earth scum, and wiped them from the face of the earth.....save for a few that made good with them.
Years later when Israel became a rottened out culture God had their a##es removed as well and in the same fashion.
You could interpret it that way. Or, you can look at human nature, and how the Hebrew people behaved just like everyone else, and took their land by means of war, rape and pillage, using their god as an excuse for bad behavior.
Why was this Hebrew god only interested in ethnic and religious cleansing just in the small area of the middle east where the Hebrew could walk or ride their camels to? Why didn't he care about the devil loving earth scum of Greece and other parts of Europe or Persia, India or Africa?
As I see it,