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Originally posted by chrome413
To the OP: I fully endorse your right to your own belief system. However, I am curious concerning your premise in your original post. You state that Lucifer did bring enlightenment to Adam and Eve. I think you left out the fact that, according to the biblical account, God set two trees in the Garden of Eden. The Tree of Life and Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil. He gave man a choice. Man made a choice.
Can you explain if your philosophy takes into account that God gave man two choices in the garden? I ask because you state that Yahweh was keeping man in darkness, but I don't understand how that could be when he is letting mankind choose his destiny, so to speak. I am curious your thoughts regarding this.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
reply to post by Fichorka
Why not? So do you suggest that he proves the bible is Satanic by using another book? That's nonsensical. What better way to expose the lies than to use the book that the lies are written in? Your logic is illogical.
Originally posted by 3NL1GHT3N3D1
I'm so glad this thread got so much attention! You did an amazing job laying out your case and it is 100% spot on. I'm enjoying the conversation so far and hopefully this will spread awareness, no matter how small that spread will be. Again, awesome job my friend.
Originally posted by WarriorOfLight96
reply to post by windword
You are no God and is within I agree but only God can redeem you to immortality and those who say other wise is dead in Christ and is not truly alive. God only said he was jealous because of people like you who say they are God and you have no power to raise the dead. all the people who have gone before us in punishment will be rewarded but only those who perished with God in their hearts. Let me ask you this with God out of the schools and every other place we dwell and all the prayers of protection have stopped can you say that the bad things have stopped?
A man or woman without God is vessel that is left open to manipulate and twist into form what he sees are faults and will lead m,any astray.
Originally posted by Fichorka
So, according to you, Shame, Fear, and Ego saved Adam and Eve from ignorance? I think that you are ignorant!
How could some entity who gave Adam and Eve an Illusion: shame, fear, etc... be a good one? Perhaps, if you look from his perspective, he IS. Otherwise, you're just being foolish.
Originally posted by Liberal1984
Another thing…
Christians like to believe ancient forests & beautiful places have no worth other than what they bring to human enjoyment. This is because “God” allegedly gave this monkey species the entire planet!
Likewise animals according to many Christians don’t have soles, wouldn’t go to heaven anyway because they don’t know the bible, and as such have no further value-importance than their value of enriching mankind.
Both this things that we…
A. We own the planet, and do as we will with it’s creation
B. Need not care about animals as both spiritual & physical things in their own right, are deeply evil misinformation.
Third…
If you were God , and you knew mankind would create x number of lab animals. Would you…
Choose an old sole, like a child killer to take those roles
Or would you put this old sole in an eternity of fire, and use only new soles, that had never done anything wrong, to be this animals?
Christians used to believe in reincarnation until the 3 century AD when the Bible was composed, and a bunch of men decided which books would or would not be part of Christianity. Hence there is something called the lost Gospels.
www.bbc.co.uk...
I put it to you, that these powerful men, were acting under demonic influence probably at least in part, or certainly the consequence (a restriction) is akin to this.
Originally posted by CaticusMaximus
Originally posted by Fichorka
So, according to you, Shame, Fear, and Ego saved Adam and Eve from ignorance? I think that you are ignorant!
How could some entity who gave Adam and Eve an Illusion: shame, fear, etc... be a good one? Perhaps, if you look from his perspective, he IS. Otherwise, you're just being foolish.
Not really. What saved them was the unveiling of the fact that these things already existed,...
Originally posted by NeoVain
reply to post by CaticusMaximus
Awesome writeup, just one thing where you might be abit deluded yourself.
But instead of recognizing this, the vast majority believes Lucifer is a demon, and some deluded ones even worship him as such.
Might it be because most "demon-worshippers" actually realized already what you are saying in this writeup that they actuaslly worship Lucifer? If he is the true god, fighting against satan/yahweh, then he is the one to worhip, not yahweh or jesus.
From what i have personally seen from these people, it actually seems to be the case.edit on 21-1-2013 by NeoVain because: (no reason given)