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But the second amendment doesn't say anything about legal age or legal guardian or parent. It's very simple and straightforward (so the pro-gunners tell me).
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by neo96
He is an American citizen though.
Originally posted by 11235813213455
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by neo96
He is an American citizen though.
Are you so inept at parenting that you need to be told how to in the constitution?
Why would you allow you child to have unfettered access to a firearm?
Originally posted by 11235813213455
Originally posted by kaylaluv
Originally posted by neo96
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by macman
So my 13 year old that has ADHD and very low impulse control should be able to?
Nice strawman there considering IS he a legal guardian or parent? no Is she of legal age ? no
The current law already on the books for gun control cover minors but then agian if people want to outsource their parental rights to the government that is their decision but in that same breath i can guarantee you would not outsource those parental rights to him.
But the second amendment doesn't say anything about legal age or legal guardian or parent. It's very simple and straightforward (so the pro-gunners tell me).
That's where the 10th comes in.
Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by Indigo5
Un fetter access eh?
More BS considering "dangerous" things are locked up behind glass cases and behind counters where only the seller has access.
You seem confused. In this case it would be Wal-Mart et al. that would be providing "unfettered access to a firearm" to children.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by 11235813213455
Originally posted by kaylaluv
Originally posted by neo96
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by macman
So my 13 year old that has ADHD and very low impulse control should be able to?
Nice strawman there considering IS he a legal guardian or parent? no Is she of legal age ? no
The current law already on the books for gun control cover minors but then agian if people want to outsource their parental rights to the government that is their decision but in that same breath i can guarantee you would not outsource those parental rights to him.
But the second amendment doesn't say anything about legal age or legal guardian or parent. It's very simple and straightforward (so the pro-gunners tell me).
That's where the 10th comes in.
So since the 2nd Amendment doesn't restrict children or the mentally ill from buying guns...The 10th Amendment allows states to make that decision?
The 10th amendment is where regulation resides then?
So you would be OK with gun regulation at the state level? Not the Feds place?
But then the state level gun owners appeal to the Feds authority under the 2nd Amendment when that regulation is enforced at the state level. That there is a perfect circle of contradiction.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by 11235813213455
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by neo96
He is an American citizen though.
Are you so inept at parenting that you need to be told how to in the constitution?
Why would you allow you child to have unfettered access to a firearm?
You seem confused. In this case it would be Wal-Mart et al. that would be providing "unfettered access to a firearm" to children.
Originally posted by 11235813213455
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by 11235813213455
Originally posted by kaylaluv
Originally posted by neo96
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by macman
So my 13 year old that has ADHD and very low impulse control should be able to?
Nice strawman there considering IS he a legal guardian or parent? no Is she of legal age ? no
The current law already on the books for gun control cover minors but then agian if people want to outsource their parental rights to the government that is their decision but in that same breath i can guarantee you would not outsource those parental rights to him.
But the second amendment doesn't say anything about legal age or legal guardian or parent. It's very simple and straightforward (so the pro-gunners tell me).
That's where the 10th comes in.
So since the 2nd Amendment doesn't restrict children or the mentally ill from buying guns...The 10th Amendment allows states to make that decision?
The 10th amendment is where regulation resides then?
So you would be OK with gun regulation at the state level? Not the Feds place?
But then the state level gun owners appeal to the Feds authority under the 2nd Amendment when that regulation is enforced at the state level. That there is a perfect circle of contradiction.
Yup, you got it. So the best thing is not to even try.
Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by neo96
Not going to repost the last two-pages for you for context. You are either confused or VERY confused.
Originally posted by neo96
Originally posted by Indigo5
reply to post by neo96
Not going to repost the last two-pages for you for context. You are either confused or VERY confused.
The context is Obama and his executive "actions" are the topic not ME not soneone elses kids
Thanks for trying to make posters the topic means they don't have an "argument".
And BTW - I attempted to discuss "executive action" earlier with you, but you pretended that the definition of that term was "Hitler! Tyrant!"...so no place to start there.
Originally posted by Indigo5
OK then...Its your view that the only thing neccessary to purchase a gun is cash?...No problem with the mentally ill? Children? Felons?...cuz the 2nd Amendment doesn't specify any restrictions...and the 10th leaves it to the states...where-upon any gun-dealer at the state level is protected from abiding by any restrictions by the 2nd? ....No offense, but that is a perfect circle of stupid IMHO.
Originally posted by Kali74
I'm not trying to engage in any strawman arguments and of course I wouldn't let him get one or ever let him be in a situation where he could... I'm asking if by law he should be able to buy one because he is a citizen. I'm trying to have a conversation, that is all.
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by 11235813213455
Originally posted by Indigo5
Originally posted by 11235813213455
Originally posted by kaylaluv
Originally posted by neo96
Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by macman
So my 13 year old that has ADHD and very low impulse control should be able to?
Nice strawman there considering IS he a legal guardian or parent? no Is she of legal age ? no
The current law already on the books for gun control cover minors but then agian if people want to outsource their parental rights to the government that is their decision but in that same breath i can guarantee you would not outsource those parental rights to him.
But the second amendment doesn't say anything about legal age or legal guardian or parent. It's very simple and straightforward (so the pro-gunners tell me).
That's where the 10th comes in.
So since the 2nd Amendment doesn't restrict children or the mentally ill from buying guns...The 10th Amendment allows states to make that decision?
The 10th amendment is where regulation resides then?
So you would be OK with gun regulation at the state level? Not the Feds place?
But then the state level gun owners appeal to the Feds authority under the 2nd Amendment when that regulation is enforced at the state level. That there is a perfect circle of contradiction.
Yup, you got it. So the best thing is not to even try.
OK then...Its your view that the only thing neccessary to purchase a gun is cash?...No problem with the mentally ill? Children? Felons?...cuz the 2nd Amendment doesn't specify any restrictions...and the 10th leaves it to the states...where-upon any gun-dealer at the state level is protected from abiding by any restrictions by the 2nd? ....No offense, but that is a perfect circle of stupid IMHO.