Science against evolution

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by flyingfish

 

I guess that leaves me out I can't even spell Hypocrisy

The forum for target food is still posted, but closed.

That is not a forum...it's a thread in this forum : Origins and Creationism Conspiracy......and now we'll take it to the next level in the Debate forum and create a new thread. BTW this is called a post.

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TF has been proven false many times in this thread.

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Another clueless post. Take a course when you get to high school.

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You know nothing and you make it apparent in every post. Screaming ignorance behooves you. It is not hardly something to be proud of.

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These wacky illusions you pretend exist are foolish. There is no intelligence where you pretend it is. You make these idiotic statements than someone cannot know what is good to eat and then pretend that parents do not teach their young. You also pretend that edible food cannot be found by experimentation. Those are pretty lame claims. In fact they are demonstrably wrong as I have shown in this and other threads.

Then you make what are really stupid statements about foods. They are stupid because any of the under 10 year olds I know are well aware than butterflies love poop. In the middle of the summer with flowers in bloom everywhere I know that butterflies are sitting on a pile of $#!+ because they like it. How daft are people that do not know that butterflies love fire ashes and poop?

TF is a dud

OK.....I've done some leg work PM's have been sent to a few super mods ( of this forum, the debate forum and the site itself), to monitor this thread and if tooth should accept, take it to the proper, impartial and fair forum, i.e. the Debate Forum as per the guidelines... All we need now is for tooth to accept the challenge.

Tooth...........?

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Target Food is NOT an idea, its an observed event, revealing patterns and instinct within EVERY species.

It is a fantasy from the mind of a single person that is unable to substantiate any of the claims.

Target Food is observed in Abalone, which alone proves that a species CAN have one food and one food only.

A classic idiotic lie because this is a lie.

When Target Food is not available, for whatever reason, the species goes into 3 phases of hunger.

The excuses for the failure of TF are beginning.

Phase one is where they are searching for target food but have to settle for everything in that food group as its not available. Phase 2 is where they might pick up an additional food group, as in the example of the squirrel in the off season. Phase 3 is eating rocks, dirt, and poo, total starvation.

When someone wants to show a lack of even elementary school education they simply scream out to show it off.
Phase 1. In a rich food environment deer, skunks, squirrels, mice, and other animals experiment with food.
Phase 2. Regardless of the time of year deer, skunks, squirrels, porcupines, bears, will at whatever is in sight. Phase 3 we have many animals eating inorganic matter all times of the year as well as poo.

So what we have here is a totally uneducated guess by someone with no personal experience making a rather dumb statement without checking on wildlife before they posted. Tooth, you need to walk outside and observe the world around you before making such a statement. This really is a guess which is completely unrelated to reality. Which dumb ass creationist told you this rubbish?

None of which should be confused with domesticated animals as we predict what they will eat.

How clueless is that? Have you ever been to a farm? That's a rhetorical answer. Of course you have not. Any farmer knows that the diet of animals able to feed from the pasture will eat anything including deadly varieties.

A good example of that not working out is a dogs diet. We feed him dog food, and of course its not his target food, so he starts going through the trash from time to time. They frequently do this even though they still have food in their dish, its because they are searching for Target Food.

More rubbish from the uneducated.

Being clueless is okay as long as you intend to learn from y our failures. Unfortunately you prefer to be of the ilk of Pye and Sitchin and other liars that the educated loathe.

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LOL, Target Food was already taken to a debate forum. The people on the forum were so jelous of the theory that they worked on getting it closed down, since they couldn't prove it wrong.

Laughing at this childish claim that is so easily shown to be false is normal. No emotion required.

Wow. he's STILL going on about target food?

Hey I have a new theory! It's called target air! All creatures have a certain type of air that was intended for them to breathe. They all breathe and absorb specific types of air! Humans breathe oxygen, planets absorb carbon dioxide and nothing else. That totally is scientific and proves evolution wrong. If humans were from earth, why would they be breathing in dozens of other gases besides just oxygen? Clearly we aren't from here so evolution is wrong! If we were from earth there would be only oxygen in the air!

Originally posted by Barcs

Wow. he's STILL going on about target food?

Hey I have a new theory! It's called target air! All creatures have a certain type of air that was intended for them to breathe. They all breathe and absorb specific types of air! Humans breathe oxygen, planets absorb carbon dioxide and nothing else. That totally is scientific and proves evolution wrong. If humans were from earth, why would they be breathing in dozens of other gases besides just oxygen? Clearly we aren't from here so evolution is wrong! If we were from earth there would be only oxygen in the air!

That my friend has already been put to him

I pointed out that unlike target food which seems to make no difference if it is present or not, the lack of target air results in death within minutes for most life on this planet. The few that do not die within minutes just take a little longer but also die in a short period of time

Target air is also available everywhere as even water can be considered target air for fish and other aquatics. Target air needs little effort to collect. You just breathe in whether active, at rest or asleep. Also the body knows instinctively when you need more or less target air.

Tooth dismissed Target air as something I made up and had no evidence for unlike Target food that he made up and has no evidence for.

I offered my proof was, I can show air exists. Also if you remove target air you die. Whereas with target food he cannot show it exists and life just goes on with or without it seemingly unaffected.

Target air also fulfils tooths golden rule. It is not produced by processes that are not natural or by means that are not natural including machines and tools

His answer was that I was just being silly, dishonest and making things up ignoring there is far more evidence that supports target air just in this post than he has ever offered in support of target food.

It appears that his version of science is: Anything tooth wants to be true is true and anything that challenges his claims is not true.

Let me be clear on this regarding the debate forum.

Despite the time difference I am more than happy to take part in any debate with tooth and suggest the debate be:

Target food: Proven fact or failed fantasy

As Target food is tooths creation and the claim of it being an 'observed event' and proven fact he should be the first to post his claims and argument with supporting evidence.

This gives him an advantage as that will be the first occasion I would of had to see any evidence that supports target food.

The verdict from the judges will result in either the acceptance of target food as fact by all or that target food is nothing more than fantasy and cannot be used in any science based forum on ATS

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Going back to your suggestion/version of target air.

It is actually a way to provide evidence of humans actually being native of earth.

Deep see divers need different gases mixed with oxygen and the mixtures vary dependant on depth.

Mountain climbers have to resort to oxygen when climbing the highest peaks.

We need no such tampering when we are at an altitude where we commonly live so the various gases that makes up the air at sea level ensures the amount of oxygen we absorb from every breathe we take does not give us an excess of oxygen.

This is linked to atmospheric pressure. What influences that pressure? The size and mass of this planet I would imagine plays a big part. Another indicator that we are native to this planet, evolved to live here, selected for by the environment. Oh that would support Evolution then

Our lungs have evolved to supply that oxygen from the air that contains all the various gases that make it up indicating we are from here and tooths version of the bible is yet again in serious doubt.

A point I am sure I made to tooth that was also dismissed without a counter argument.

Edit Atmospheric pressure

It seems my guess was correct but tempreature also plays a role (I expect you already knew that)

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Why bother, I have plenty of debaters right now.

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Are you kidding me, the parents teach the young what to eat, like we do? We don't even know what to eat and what is healthy for us. Have you not been staying current on events? The US is plagued with obesity, other countries are starving. You have to reallly watch what you eat or your health can go south, fast.

In case you lost track of the score, we are losing. We tried to even up the score by making supplements, but that didn't work either because people have no way of knowing what they are lacking unless they have an expensive test done.

So please explain to me, oh know it all, how it is with this larget selection of food that we have, how we are suppose to know what to eat and what not to eat?

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I'm sure you did get all your evolution believing mods in on this, so they would close me down before I ever got started, Nice try.

reply to post by theophilus40

We use the term "evolution" to mean, “The doctrine that unguided natural forces caused chemicals to combine in such a way that life resulted

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If you honestly think there are animals that experiment with food, then you should have no problem posting that fact. All you have to do is locate the section of the diet that clearly explains they experiment with food, and copy and past it into the reply box.

I have a feeling that the reason why you nor anyone else has done this, is because it simply doesn't exist.

You have to remember that animals grazing within their diet is NOT experimentation. Which just goes to show your lack of understanding. When I speak of experimentation I'm referring to them searching out for new food for the first time, and it can't be under starvation conditions.

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Colin already beat you to Target Air. He was so jealous of my Target Food that he insisted on coming up with a theory of his own, a long time ago.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by Connector

 

Why bother, I have plenty of debaters right now.

Because you have been challenged thats why.

You claim those here that show target food is a dead loss fantasy are dishonest liars. This is your chance to put your argument to a panel of judges that are not

The reason why you need to bother is refusal to take this to a one to one debate, fairly judged is your very last chance to be seen with any credibility at all.

Your final chance to put your target food where your mouth is. To put the evidence you claim to have provided but no one can find. Your chance to prove your broken link to natural is not the dishonest ploy of a liar

Everyone is looking at you now. All eyes are on you and if you refuse this challenge you confirm you peddle your tripe to troll and destroy debate on a subject you show an insane hatred of

You claim target food is an observed event. A proven fact

Put up or forever shut up

Do I see you in the debate forum or do you admit your wrong and target food is just a fantasy

YES or NO

Question to Mods: If you get the word fighter in your sig for entering a one on one debate what gets added to your sig when you run like a greyhound when challenged?

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by stereologist

 

Are you kidding me, the parents teach the young what to eat, like we do? We don't even know what to eat and what is healthy for us. Have you not been staying current on events? The US is plagued with obesity, other countries are starving. You have to reallly watch what you eat or your health can go south, fast.

In case you lost track of the score, we are losing. We tried to even up the score by making supplements, but that didn't work either because people have no way of knowing what they are lacking unless they have an expensive test done.

So please explain to me, oh know it all, how it is with this larget selection of food that we have, how we are suppose to know what to eat and what not to eat?

Why bother to answer you? The person that refuses the chance to once and for all prove his claims are true in front of an un biased panel of judges.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by Connector

 

I'm sure you did get all your evolution believing mods in on this, so they would close me down before I ever got started, Nice try.

That excuse wont wash. It does not work for pye and it certainly does not work for you.

Calling the mods dishonest will not bode well for you and your foundationless claim that can be added to all the other foundationless claims you make to stifle real debate

Go to the debate forum and check. You have one post and one post only to make here

Do you accept the challenge?

YES or NO