Science against evolution

Double post

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by Barcs

 

Colin already beat you to Target Air. He was so jealous of my Target Food that he insisted on coming up with a theory of his own, a long time ago.

No one is interested in your childish lies. You have only one post to make that everyone wants to know your views on

Will you show ATS that target food is a real observed event and proven fact or do you run and prove once and for all that even you know it is just a lie designed to stifle debate and conversation on this subject

Do you accept my challenge?

YES or NO

reply to post by colin42


Unbiased, meh. The thread I started up called Target Food was shut down because I refused to play the repeat game. And I'm a sucker for punishment, cause I still played along for a while. Of course all the mod saw was that I wasn't willing to answer, not knowing that I didn't want to play the repeat game.

So no, I'm not up for you little games, plus I know that a lot of the mods on here are on the side of evolution, which is totally biased. Very dirty of you to ask though.

Pye and Sitchen and Von Daniken are only looked at as pranksters by the evolution community, only because they offer a sound path to the explanation of our existance. Evolutionist dont like anything that explains creation or diversity because they can't compete in an honest way.

Why not, I'm competing in an honest way, I have repeated the theory umteen times, and I'm just waiting for something credible to prove me wrong. I'm the one sticking my neck out here and no one is up for the honest challenge, or is that because nothing can honestly challenge the theory?

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by Barcs

 

Colin already beat you to Target Air. He was so jealous of my Target Food that he insisted on coming up with a theory of his own, a long time ago.

Not surprised. Colin is a smart dude and he debunked it. I thought I had a real theory! My other option was going to be target drink. Only problem with that is that water is universal for all creatures and we are all 75% water just like the earth, so it actually is a slam dunk that proves life on earth is indeed from earth.

If you really insist that target food is real, you should accept the challenge. You've got nothing to lose if so. The debating forum is impartial to viewpoints and personal opinions. Winners are decided strictly by logic.

reply to post by itsthetooth

Unbiased, meh. The thread I started up called Target Food was shut down because I refused to play the repeat game.

Nope. Again you mislead. That thread was closed down because the mod was sick of the childish behaviour. They named no one. The thread was called 'Target food proves evolution wrong' so you even got that wrong

All through that entire thread you refused to provide any evidence and denied with no reason all evidence that showed you to be incorrect.

As shown in this thread YOU are the reason for what you call the repeat game. You do not answer any questions with an answer that relates to that question. You provide no evidence for the wild claims you make claiming you already have. Your attempts to steer the topic away from your failed fantasy is plain to see in this thread.

You claimed in that thread 'target food proves evolution is wrong' and then offered only your uninformed opinion. I was shocked it was not closed after the first two pages. So in fact the Mods were more than fair to you. That threads real home is the HOAX forum along with all your others.

And I'm a sucker for punishment, cause I still played along for a while. Of course all the mod saw was that I wasn't willing to answer, not knowing that I didn't want to play the repeat game.

Nope go back and read the reasons why the mod closed the thread. Get your story correct for once.

So no, I'm not up for you little games, plus I know that a lot of the mods on here are on the side of evolution, which is totally biased. Very dirty of you to ask though.

I thought so. You will not enter into a real debate on target food

Pye and Sitchen and Von Daniken are only looked at as pranksters by the evolution community, only because they offer a sound path to the explanation of our existance.

You demonstrate the same dishonest approach as pye. You make claims and do not provide evidence in support for it and claim the reason is because science will destroy the evidence or dishonestly represent the findings. Well done. You have firmly allied yourself to a group with no credibility.

Don’t try to tell me he has. That has been done many times and you don’t play the repeat game remember.

Evolutionist dont like anything that explains creation or diversity because they can't compete in an honest way.

When you write diversity is achieved by aliens using recycled parts you expect to be taken seriously, Seriously??

Why not, I'm competing in an honest way, I have repeated the theory umteen times, and I'm just waiting for something credible to prove me wrong. I'm the one sticking my neck out here and no one is up for the honest challenge, or is that because nothing can honestly challenge the theory?

Your refusal to take part in the debate forum is the real answer showing the above is just more of the same empty, meaningless opinion and ignorance you continually display.

You know that target food fantasy will not hold up against any real argument as has been done repeatedly and despite your claims you have provided no evidence and have no evidence. But we know that is not the intention of target food fantasy.

You use target food as one of your many ploys to stop debate and conversation on this subject and turn it into a pantomime. You know if judged independently your ploy would fail and so you claim everyone is dishonest.

We all know that you will shamelessly continue to use your dishonest ploys to wreck threads on this subject. Your ploys have been highlighted on this thread. It is now up to the mods to ignore or take action.

As far as I am concerned panto season has ended.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by idmonster

 

The further a species is from its target food, the wilder its choice is.

Really!

Then I think you need to show that "missing link" in the food chain, or perhaps you prefer the term common target ancestor!

lets make this easier for tooth.

I'm in for debate as well.

So now you have 2 potential debaters to choose from. Any one else want to throw their hat in? Allow tooth to choose the person he believes he has the best chance against.

I second colins choice for debate title, you get first post tooth, outline your theory, provide the rules, and state your conclusion.

eta(had to check what the debate forum was, and the allowed timescales for replies before making a decision)

reply to post by itsthetooth

Are you kidding me, the parents teach the young what to eat, like we do? We don't even know what to eat and what is healthy for us. Have you not been staying current on events? The US is plagued with obesity, other countries are starving. You have to reallly watch what you eat or your health can go south, fast.

In case you lost track of the score, we are losing. We tried to even up the score by making supplements, but that didn't work either because people have no way of knowing what they are lacking unless they have an expensive test done.

So please explain to me, oh know it all, how it is with this larget selection of food that we have, how we are suppose to know what to eat and what not to eat?

Pointless commentary unrelated to the thread.

Move this to the debate forum.

reply to post by itsthetooth

If you honestly think there are animals that experiment with food, then you should have no problem posting that fact. All you have to do is locate the section of the diet that clearly explains they experiment with food, and copy and past it into the reply box.

I have a feeling that the reason why you nor anyone else has done this, is because it simply doesn't exist.

You have to remember that animals grazing within their diet is NOT experimentation. Which just goes to show your lack of understanding. When I speak of experimentation I'm referring to them searching out for new food for the first time, and it can't be under starvation conditions.

Already posted in thread. If you do not read the thread then you lose out.

reply to post by idmonster
Tooth has already refused and as usual when invited to debate 1 on 1 he is on the run again

In case he changes his mind the fact he has now two people to choose from gives him an even fairer choice.

The suggestion of limiting the debate to target food only was also in his favour. His claim that target food is an 'observed event' and a proven fact would have been lost and easily diverted if evolution was brought into the debate.

So I believe he has been given a fair opportunity to once and for all shut us up using a logical argument overseen by independent judges. Where his evidence that supports his claim cannot be ignored as he continually accuses posters here of doing.

So as connector said along with his great suggestion to finally end this farce. This is tooth’s one chance to shine and 'fighter' added to his sig.

reply to post by colin42


My answers are always straight to the point, and then some, I even elaborate.

I don't need anyones permission to set up a debate, there is no point, I know exactly what you guys are trying to prove, just like they did in the last thread. Try to get me to abort in the repeat game so that the thread gets closed down. I'm not dumb.

reply to post by itsthetooth

My answers are always straight to the point, and then some, I even elaborate.

I don't need anyones permission to set up a debate, there is no point, I know exactly what you guys are trying to prove, just like they did in the last thread. Try to get me to abort in the repeat game so that the thread gets closed down. I'm not dumb.

Science works because science is open to debate and discussion. This post has fear written all over it and that should not be the case. This is the perfect chance to present your material in a structured atmosphere where the focus will be the content and nothing else.

It's time for the debate forum.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by colin42

 

My answers are always straight to the point, and then some, I even elaborate.

I don't need anyones permission to set up a debate, there is no point, I know exactly what you guys are trying to prove, just like they did in the last thread. Try to get me to abort in the repeat game so that the thread gets closed down. I'm not dumb.

You're sort've missing the point.

THIS thread asserts that there is SCIENTIFIC evidence that shows evolution to be wrong, not a platform for you to air your brain farts.

For one moment, I'll pretend, without any science to back it up, that there is such a thing as target food.

The existence of target food has nothing to say about the veracity of the theory of evolution, and therefore has no place in this thread.

The previous thread that you started was closed by the mods due to it spiraling off into the realms of utter madness, dragging all involved along with it.

You have the opportunity, and the invites to debate the subject of target food properly. having viewed the debates forum, I would say that the results of the judges are extremely fair, none of the debates I viewed were judged on the subject matter, only on the arguments put forward and the evidence supplied.


However, I fear that you have completed your task of destroying any attempt for rational athiests and religious folk to discuss this subject properly, we nearly had a proper, civil scientific discussion going, and then tooth decay set in and I think this thread will need to be pulled.

I for one, will not discuss any aspects of TF in this thread until it has been debated properly and either won or drawn the debate.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by colin42

 

My answers are always straight to the point, and then some, I even elaborate.

I don't need anyones permission to set up a debate, there is no point, I know exactly what you guys are trying to prove, just like they did in the last thread. Try to get me to abort in the repeat game so that the thread gets closed down. I'm not dumb.

This is your chance to prove everyone that calls target food nothing more than a fantasy wrong

A chance for you to put in one place your theory and all the evidence you claim to have posted and no one can find. As Connector wrote. A chance to shine

The judges are chosen not by their beliefs. They are chosen because they are members that display an unbiased attitude. Able to come to a fair verdict based on logic and the argument presented. I would imagine they would not risk that reputation in a conspiracy against you.

This is a chance to focus and reply to one person and one person only when making your case

You say you are a science major. See this as peer review of your target food theory which, if as you say it is an 'observed event' and a proven fact you should have full confidence that the argument in favour of target food will have a positive outcome just from posting the facts

I have no idea what 'Try to get me to abort in the repeat game ' means but your claim that we are trying to get the thread closed is nonsense. You are being given the chance to take this to a forum where all the things you accuse posters here of will not be tolerated. So the reverse is true.

This is your chance, win or lose to demonstrate that you honestly believe what you are saying gaining respect at the very least

On the other hand. Your refusal to take part on the debate forum only confirms what everyone has concluded about target food and you.

That you have no evidence. That with no evidence means you can supply no argument only your opinion. That you know your claims based on your version of the bible and limited world view has no substance at all.

It shows once and for all that you have no confidence in the unproven fantasy you claim to be fact and will not stand by your claims and to use a comment you repeat all the time,

Refusal to accept the challenge and take part in the forum debate proves everyone is right and you are wrong, and you know it
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You open the door to the comment you refused to rise to the challenge showing your claims for target food are dishonest every time you try to bring it into a debate on any future thread you take part in

The challenge is still open

reply to post by stereologist


I already had my chance, and jealous people got my thread shut down.

reply to post by idmonster


Yes it does, because evolution doesn't afford the explanation of how intelligence or instinct got programmed into the species.

I think YOUR missing the point, I already posted Target Food in a seperate thread and jealous people worked together to get it shut down.

I know they were jealous because they were asking me where I got the theory from and were insistant that I didn't come up with it.

I don't see the point in opening up a debate forum just so that jealous people can once again close it down.

Originally posted by itsthetooth
reply to post by idmonster

 

Yes it does, because evolution doesn't afford the explanation of how intelligence or instinct got programmed into the species.

I think YOUR missing the point, I already posted Target Food in a seperate thread and jealous people worked together to get it shut down.

I know they were jealous because they were asking me where I got the theory from and were insistant that I didn't come up with it.

I don't see the point in opening up a debate forum just so that jealous people can once again close it down.

Thats not how it works in the debate forum.

You have 3 posts each:

Opening statement,
Response,
Closing statement,

No edits and minimal links to third party information. Only two people on the thread.

On completion of each persons conclusion the thread is judged by anonymous judges and a winner announced.

reply to post by itsthetooth


It's time for the debate forum.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by itsthetooth

 

It's time for the debate forum.

Looks more like its time for the Kleenex tissues

Originally posted by colin42

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by itsthetooth

 

It's time for the debate forum.

Looks more like its time for the Kleenex tissues

It's not that kind of debate.

(you set em up and i'll kick em home)