Connecticut Kindergarten Shooter - Victim of the CIA and Not a Perp - MKUltra?

reply to post by Gregorian


I hear you, but it's as though as soon as you mention mind control, people stick their fingers in their ears and yell "la, la, la, la!!!"
They think that as long as they don't believe it, it can't exist in their world or anywhere else for that matter. This way of thinking can also be considered a form of mind control. They have been instructed to believe this through the TV and Hollywood.

Originally posted by ThisToiletEarth
So this douchebag who shot 20 innocent babies and 5 or 6 adults is the "victim" here?!
Then you post a brief description of MK Ultra, as if it's people here have never heard of such a thing?!
You are a pathetic individual.

To whom are you referring? You should make it clear by a "Reply" or a "Quote." House rules.

If you have enlightened information regarding the CIA's KMUltra then by all means, please post if for the edification of all participants in the thread.

Regarding the brevity of my MKUltra description see my posting in response to Afterthought (above.)

As for your name-calling - Quote-->"(You are a pathetic individual.)" people who resort to such tactics usually suffer from low self esteem having a need to elevate themselves at the expense of others. I think it better if you were to make worthy contributions to the thread rather than to allow yourself to appear even less that what you really are in the eyes of others by denigrating persons with whom you have a disagreement. Thank you.

reply to post by Gregorian


One thing that proves we've all been brainwashed as a society is the fact that mean people are deemed the "cool" people. How did this happen?
When did it become "cool" to humiliate and make fun of people you believe are different and why do people flock to these people and the groups they're involved with?
I believe that this type of behavior is a disease that is born from nature and nurture. The sensitive people are told to "get thicker skin". I've never understood this. Why should the empathetic and sensitive people change? Why can't the mean SOBs jsut be nicer?
In grade school, you're cool if you make people laugh by humiliating someone. Then these people enter college and join these idiotic frats and sororities that are focused on ridiculous reward/punishment activities. Then, these same people enter adulthood and believe it's OK to step on people and stab their coworkers in the back to climb the ladder. When will sociopathic and psychopathic behavior be deemed a contagious illness? People who get their rocks off my being mean and humiliating others for their own enjoyment are deranged and suffer from a mental defect.

Fox News Channel’s Trace Gallagher also reported that Lanza was alleged to have been suffering from 'developmental disabilities' prior to the incident.

More importantly though - officials told the AP, on the condition of anonymity, that its confirmed that both Lanza’s girlfriend and another friend are missing.

Isnt it amazing that the details are so confusing?
The goverment supposedly has "total information awareness " yet the whole scenario is rife with unsubstantaied "news"
Id bet that somebody knows exactly what went on.....the confusing and conflicting reports are allowing all kinds of spurious information to circulate...much of it harmful to others not remotely involved.....The whole thing reeks of manipulation by someone with an agenda.

reply to post by Gregorian


Why can't a tragedy just be a tragedy? Why do we need to build a conspiracy like MKUltra out of what transpired yesterday?

Originally posted by Gregorian
To whom are you referring? You should make it clear by a "Reply" or a "Quote." House rules.

If you have enlightened information regarding the CIA's KMUltra then by all means, please post if for the edification of all participants in the thread.

Regarding the brevity of my MKUltra description see my posting in response to Afterthought (above.)

As for your name-calling - Quote-->"(You are a pathetic individual.)" people who resort to such tactics usually suffer from low self esteem having a need to elevate themselves at the expense of others. I think it better if you were to make worthy contributions to the thread rather than to allow yourself to appear even less that what you really are in the eyes of others by denigrating persons with whom you have a disagreement. Thank you.

edit on 15-12-2012 by Gregorian because: (no reason given)

I am referring to you. And your lame attempt at bringing a conspiracy into a sick mans actions. Somehow you are an expert on MK Ultra and understand "the earmarkings" blah blah blah. You sound like a fool. And that's my opinion. I am aloud to express opinion, right? I believe that's a "house rule".



I am the Scumdog of the universe. I lack empathy and my self esteem is so low that it's hardly measurable.
I don't really care what others think about me either. Anything else you would like to diagnose me with?

House rules??!?!?! Pffttttt.

I followed a lot of the details of the Aurora shooting, and am now trying to piece this one together as well.
Someone made an excellent thread on here about mind control/ psychiatrist connections with the Aurora shootings and I will try and find that link.

Something odd jumped out at me. The school psychologist's (deceased) name is Sherlach. I imagine that would be pronounced Sher-lock. And of course we have James HOLMES.

Anyway, could mean nothing..just thought it was a bit odd. Then we have the name Sandy Hook, along with he recent Hurricane Sandy. Once again, could mean nothing at all..but just something that seemed interconnected somehow.

A lot of people will say that things are a mess at the beginning, that news reports are not complete, insufficient, etc. But actually I have found that some of the most accurate reports are the first ones that appear, because these are the ones that have not had the chance yet to be filtered or skewed.

I found the testimony of little Richie's father to be a bit rehearsed, as though he was reading a script. Several of the other "parents" that were interviewed also did not seem to be from someone that just got a dreaded robocall, marched down a road to a fire station to see if their little child was even ALIVE.

Once again, like Aurora, we have the car left outside with weaponry. This time, though, the perp is dead and therefore, no questions asked. Also, his mother is now dead (assumedly the closest person to him) and once again, no questions asked.

Also what chilled me, is how incredibly accurate a shot this guy seemed to be. All but one of his victims died, and he was armed with handguns?? I know these are children, and therefore shots more likely to be deadly, but that struck me odd. It makes me sick to think about it.

I noticed on the news yesterday, they focused almost nonstop on the guns themselves, rather than the victims. They would put in a witness story here and there, and then immediately go into the weaponry.

Glad to see this moved to the Skunk Works where it belongs.

As mentioned, this forum is for your most outlandish and extreme speculative conspiracy theory ideas. The intent is for like-minded members to engage in collaborative discussions about these theories in an environment that embraces and encourages extreme thought.

I'm not "like minded" to anyone in the skunk pen. Have fun. No need to respond as I do not consider you "like minded" and am choosing to walk away from this nonsense. Later.

reply to post by PrincessTofu


Know idea...it is not as the news has been totally accurate, the father gave a statement and the brother was questioned and his alibi checked (even thought he was in another state...). The reporting on this has been dismal from the start reporter want a story not facts so they have filled in numerous wrong details..ABC had a good segment on it this morning.

reply to post by Gregorian


What happened yesterday is a tragedy, but that is no reason to have a closed mind about what might have caused such a horrible event. MK Ultra is a possibility. But from a farther perspective, and not focusing on how this person would have been manipulated, HOW OFTEN do we see children getting murdered in MASS? How often are schools the subject of a deranged psychopath? Not often enough for me to believe that it is a common problem with society. The waters are murky, the timing conspicuous, and the cause unknown.

I find it strange they release the wrong name of the shooter. It was at least a few hours before they corrected the name. I find this very strange.


First, cops should know it's not that unusual to carry a false id when committing a major crime.

Second, why would they release the name to the media before they had time to investigate anyone who would be helping the shooter? They should at least get to the house/work first before the media and public get their first.

All they had to do was go to the bother's work (the on the id) to realize he was at work that day. Now it would make sense if you found an id with a shooters name to immediately send the local police over to where they lived and worked. If they did that they would know they might have the wrong name.

reply to post by Afterthought

Originally posted by Afterthought
One thing that proves we've all been brainwashed as a society is the fact that mean people are deemed the "cool" people. How did this happen?
When did it become "cool" to humiliate and make fun of people you believe are different and why do people flock to these people and the groups they're involved with?
I believe that this type of behavior is a disease that is born from nature and nurture. The sensitive people are told to "get thicker skin". I've never understood this. Why should the empathetic and sensitive people change? Why can't the mean SOBs jsut be nicer?
In grade school, you're cool if you make people laugh by humiliating someone. Then these people enter college and join these idiotic frats and sororities that are focused on ridiculous reward/punishment activities. Then, these same people enter adulthood and believe it's OK to step on people and stab their coworkers in the back to climb the ladder. When will sociopathic and psychopathic behavior be deemed a contagious illness? People who get their rocks off my being mean and humiliating others for their own enjoyment are deranged and suffer from a mental defect.

I was posting about this not long ago, I'm not sure it was so much as being "cool" but more about illustrating dominance. Bullies are USUALLY big guys, not always but usually, Alpha males if ya want to call them that. Growing up being heavily bullied DID give me thicker skin, I learned alot of great lessons from those a-holes. The best lessons are hard learnt, like if your tired of being jumped daily just punch one of them as hard as ya can in the nose. You still might get jumped but there will be new reluctance.

I think alot of whats wrong with kids today is the lack of bullies, noone thinks they are better. They are all #'d up. They all have some fake diagnosis, no Dad, no real social life. All they're social activity has become digital so we have this massive ammount of pussification. These kids wouldnt be able to light a camp fire mustless find the woods without GPS or google. Maybe thats how it should be, maybe we should all get plugged into the Matrix soon and leave these stupid old-world concepts behind.

If we don't though the kids growing up now are in for a tough ride.

reply to post by 1/2 Nephilim


I see your point, but I have to say that there are more adult bullies than school age. At least you learned from your experience. Some victims of bullies just become bullies themselves. Sort of like how victims of paedophiles become paedophiles.
Monsters creating monsters.

Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
reply to post by ParanoidAmerican

 

my understanding is that he first drove to hoboken, nj. killed his father/brother. then drove the 90+/- miles to his mother's job/school in connecticut, shot and killed her and then did the remainder that we've all been hearing about all day.

's too bad he didn't have a 'fatal accident' along the way. (?) IMO

This post pretty much sums up how much misinformation we were fed all day yesterday.

just sayin

reply to post by Afterthought


Yeah cuz thats how we grew up. The bullies from when we were kids became cops, restaurant managers, they found crappy little positions of authority because thats what made them comfortable and they really didn't have the brains to do anything else.

As for monsters creating monsters, the thing that bugs me more than anything is how acceptant it has become for people to lie to theyre kids about the most trivial #. From Santa Clause to the coddling "Your more special than anyone! Yes you are!"

The REAL bullies nowadays, the real monsters are the corporations and thugs thereof. The cops/military who will blindly follow orders because they are contractually obliged to. Those people are not only products of REAL bullying, they're perception of the way to live dictates that lies are necassary sometimes, alot of times.

The ET"S need to make themselves known this week, it would cause some chaos, granted.. but it would solve the majority of problems.

reply to post by 1/2 Nephilim


You're absolutely right. How can the cycle be broken? I think fraternities should be made illegal. Nothing good comes out of them and these types of psychopaths are able to find each other because it's encouraged to put down on your resume/CV that you were a member of such and such frat house. Then, they find their way into even more disturbing clubs where alcohol is used as a scapegoat so the abuser has something else to blame. "It wasn't me, it was the alcohol!" or "I drank too much and don't remember doing that."
These types of people never take responsibility for their actions. Then, they have kids and teach them to be insensitive pricks and encourage them to get into the same clubs and frat houses. Madness, I tell you. Complete and total madness!

whoops double post