Connecticut Kindergarten Shooter - Victim of the CIA and Not a Perp - MKUltra?

reply to post by snarky412


My thoughts exactly.

Originally posted by scorpiosin


Right - I myself am a responsible gun owner, I realize the responsibilty that comes with it.

I agree not everything is a conspiracy, and don't want to downplay the tragedy of it all at all, but it does make me stop and think sometimes. I realize our society is broken, and that is probably a more likely cause. But the government has done some messed up things in the past and I don't think they've suddenly gotten more moral and compassionate.

I was saying in another thread, I believe we will see more of this, especially since the doom and gloom crowd believes the end of the World is Nigh. Not to mention the Holidays, and this crap economy. When our own President has his own "kill list" it has to say something about our society.

Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
drivre to dad's house.

kill brother and father.

drive to mom's work.
kill mom.

shyte gets crazy.

in the moment.

shoot kids in classroom.

what the hell have i done?

shoot self.

/scene.

i'm just glad he ended himself as well.

anyone who goes on these type shooting/kiling sprees should be shot dead on sight.

why waste time in the just us system.

it certainly doesn't take a jury of your peers or a rcocket scientist to determine guilt or innocence.

let' em surrender to a body bag ....on-site.

I absolutely agree. There is no way I want to know what REALLY happened here, I say get rid of him and any evidence as well.

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by stirling

 

Again, not everything is a Conspiracy or a "Psywar".

No, but many things are, and by just dismissing the idea without even investigating into it does everyone a disservice, and plays right into these sick freaks hands.

reply to post by CudiTheKid


Im dismissing this "theory" outright.

Why?

Because EVERY TIME these types of tragedy's happen, ATS becomes the bastion of this type of talk, like its gospel. Don't take my word for it, just do a simple search. Problem is, you will find NO proof, at the end of the discussion.

reply to post by 12m8keall2c


He killed his dad and brother too? I thought the brother was detained and questioned...also thought dad and bro had no contact with him for 3 yrs?

reply to post by ParanoidAmerican


my understanding is that he first drove to hoboken, nj. killed his father/brother. then drove the 90+/- miles to his mother's job/school in connecticut, shot and killed her and then did the remainder that we've all been hearing about all day.

's too bad he didn't have a 'fatal accident' along the way. (?) IMO

Originally posted by sonnny1
reply to post by CudiTheKid

 

Im dismissing this "theory" outright.
Why?
Because EVERY TIME these types of tragedy's happen, ATS becomes the bastion of this type of talk, like its gospel. Don't take my word for it, just do a simple search. Problem is, you will find NO proof, at the end of the discussion.

Maybe not proof, but there is plenty of evidence in many of these cases. It's called a cover-up for a reason, if everything was out in the open it wouldn't be done very well, would it? You probably dismiss 9/11 outright too, probably would have dismissed Operation Northwoods too, MK-Ultra, and on and on with the sick things these people plan.

Originally posted by pheonix358
As I posted in another thread:

The more I read about these shootings the more I see a plan to disarm America.

The theater did not have the impact, the mall didn't do it, lets try a school or two.

When something falls into the arms of the Gun control radicals I don't think in terms of providence, I think in terms of a plan.

Watch, you need a few more in quick succession to get the point across.

P

I think your right. The frequency is way to high to be random events. But America is driven by big business and money. If they take our guns, the entire gun industry would lose a lot of money. Sure they would make a ton from government contracts but it would cause a larger unemployemnt rate and with how the economy is, I don't think they would do it. Everything suggests that we are about to crash economically so maybe they would. I don't know... Its very interesting to think about.

Originally posted by pheonix358
As I posted in another thread:

The more I read about these shootings the more I see a plan to disarm America.

The theater did not have the impact, the mall didn't do it, lets try a school or two.

When something falls into the arms of the Gun control radicals I don't think in terms of providence, I think in terms of a plan.

Watch, you need a few more in quick succession to get the point across.

P

ABSOLUTELY INDEED.

And the carefully anesthetized and functionally lobotomized sheeple will scream on cue for the next level of tyranny and the tighter noose around their own necks.

May God have mercy on all of good heart toward Him.

Let God arise and His enemies be scattered.

The land and the planet are rapidly sinking deeper into the carefully oligarchy and fallen-angel forces constructed chute toward hell.

Originally posted by sonnny1
Not EVERYTHING is a Conspiracy.

Come on...

And you

!KNOW!

this how?

Technically it's a true statement. EVERYTHING is not.

However, in terms of such issues as the topic of this thread . . .

Start here:

reality101blog.blogspot.ca...

And check out Aaron Russo on youtube . . .

Whatever's not part of the current globalist conspiracy is not of any significance in our lives or is part of God's structure, working, plans, groups.

There's only two camps. There are not a lot of choices.

And the satanic globalist camp has been up to such evils for a very long time. Their evil Boss has been plotting, scheming, planning and setting up deceptions for millennia, literally.

And the Eloi marched into the caverns to be dinner quite meekly . . .

following the script . . .

reply to post by CudiTheKid


Im not saying the Government hasn't had its hands dirty. Im saying this man KILLED because.....

He was a POS. Not a Terrorist, not a CIA victim, or a some other "victim" of the Government.

VICTIM ?

Originally posted by AdamsMurmur

edit on 14/12/12 by AdamsMurmur because: (no reason given)

The screenshot you have there shows what is wrong with at least some of today's youth. DETACHMENT. You have these people growing up with the technology and are put in a unique situation where they never have to interact with other human beings outside of the internet or constantly texting. Yes these people may have friends in the real world, but, I am willing to bet that they are doing the same thing, I was at the mall not long ago and saw a group of kids sitting together, not talking, everyone of them texting. Is this what it is like to be social these days? I am not saying all, but you do have some who hide behind this persona of being untouchable and feel they can say and do what they want without regard to anyone seeing what they type. As if it is less harsh that you are typing it and not saying it to someones face.

This in turn breeds a mentality of no responsibility for their actions, without someone telling them they are wrong they feel they can get away with whatever they want and in turn when they go out in to the real world and they are no longer under the veil of their persona and the harsh reality sets in. These people do not know how to react to the feedback of real people and or rejection or the fact that their actions have consequences.

So they take this feedback and either go back to what they were doing before and pay it no mind, or they act out like we are seeing in the news.

I am not saying that technology is bad and I am all for it. I am saying that some do not know how to use it in moderation and it consumes every aspect of their lives to the point things like this happen.

As for the MKUltra I have no proof, but I would not put it past the government to do such a thing, and this makes me think its not only about gun control, but also internet shut down.

Blame the killings on kids being detached and throw the guns in with it, kill two birds with one stone. You take away the right of the people to defend themselves while blinding them at the same time. After all with sites like this I get my news sometimes days or hours before the news picks it up.

Nothing to see here folks. Just move along.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

reply to post by Gregorian


This needs to be noted in this thread.

Ive read a few comments today correlating this to The Manchurian Candidate. Didn't think much of it but then read on the main thread in a post by baddmove, which I'm repeating a 3rd time now:

Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young.

Adam's older brother Ryan Lanza, 24, has worked at Ernst & Young for four years, apparently following in his father's footsteps and carving out a solid niche in the tax practice.

Now if there is one breed of people I don't trust its bankers. Elitists, TPTB think they are above us.

That said, his eldest son is following in his footsteps (as planned I'm sure). If its true that Adam had Aspergers syndrome or some sort of learning disability, I hate to be so presumptuous but his Dad IS a banker, Adam has probably always been a disappointment to some extent. To a pos banker though, a commodity nonetheless.

What the Dad and Ryan do has thrown me for a loop, all the holes and changes in the "facts" of the story had me pretty speculative already but now, I really think this is about more than were being told.

Originally posted by sonnny1

He was a POS. Not a Terrorist, not a CIA victim, or a some other "victim" of the Government.

And how the hell do you know? Because the media told you so?

Look, odds are it was just a psycho, but to declare that without investigating is stupid and naive.

What causes autism? Vaccines. What causes violent behavior? Television. What causes a triggered maniac response? Getting off psych drugs. Thing is, this could be mind control not necessarily from a control room per se but simply institutional poisons. Although the coincidence of happening when troops are being sent to turkey and iraq is interesting.

reply to post by Gregorian


Yep I am watching the CBS "special report". It is carefully crafted to demonize guns even zooming in on police AR15s at strategic points in the dialogue and also the hand guns used in the shooting. Obama's speech and pretending to be wiping tears when there are no tears etc.

Watch for a major push for more gun control legislation now!

This whole thing was so staged it makes me sick the real perps are the bastards who orchestrated these shootings and sacrificed the lives of those children and adults to accomplish their agenda. Can you imagine the planning meetings for this garbage? Yeah the last several shootings didin't work so lets kill a bunch of little children that will have the country calling for gun controi... Who do we have on the MKultra hook that will take out kids...

Originally posted by KaiserSoze

Originally posted by 12m8keall2c
drivre to dad's house.

kill brother and father.

drive to mom's work.
kill mom.

shyte gets crazy.

in the moment.

shoot kids in classroom.

what the hell have i done?

shoot self.

/scene.

i'm just glad he ended himself as well.

anyone who goes on these type shooting/kiling sprees should be shot dead on sight.

why waste time in the just us system.

it certainly doesn't take a jury of your peers or a rcocket scientist to determine guilt or innocence.

let' em surrender to a body bag ....on-site.

Heard about this on the radio after work,it's senseless and horrific.I don't know about MK Ultra or even what it means for your gun laws.Our gun laws out very restrictive in the UK yet when something like this,which is rare but has happened,happens you find out that the killer was legally able to own firearms !!!

Is it a government brainwashing/CIA disarm the people of the US conspiracy ??

I don't know but what always becomes clear with these things whether it's here in the UK,the US or anywhere else is that it's some 'poor' sad little inadequate that feels persecuted,delusions of grandeur that flips out and goes after their nemesis (his family !!),making sure they finally leave their mark by taking out as many innocent lives along the way.

Oh and don't worry about the justice system cos the majority of these 'unforetunates' plan on being killed or shooting themselves as it's all part of the 'romantic' closing scene to the tragic movie of their lives.

They just see so many primary school kids as part of the glorious end to their lives not as innocent wee kids full of life and potential.

Personally I'd sooner see him taken alive and sent to jail where he WILL spend the rest of his life learning what pain and humiliation actually feels like,certainly in a UK jail his life would be made a living hell by the other prisoners daily !!!

Does anyone remeber the conspiracy of James Holmes who's father (Robert Holmes) was supposed to testify before a senate panel on the Libor case? not sure where that theory went but was thought it had a connection with James Holmes shooting in Aurora. RObert Homes Libor case

Im curious if there is a similar conspiracy with Adam Lanza, his father Peter Lanza, and His type of work:

"Peter Lanza, who drove to northern New Jersey to talk to police and the FBI, is a vice president at GE Capital and had been a partner at global accounting giant Ernst & Young." Peter Lanza

Is there any recent fraud in the Banking system or Goventment, thats putting Peter on the spot? Any recent news Regard GE Capital?

GE scandal?