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onebigmonkey
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
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It does't really matter how many. What matters is whether it's true or not. It's true.
"It was a sinister time and a lot of my compatriots who went to the Soviet Union in those days in the early 1960s never did return, or when they did return they never survived.
"I was one of the fortunate ones." www.telegraph.co.uk...
"They tried to remove from my memory the fact that they had taken me to their own defence nucleus on the Black Sea coast, because they did not want news of what they had brought back to this country."
He added: "It remains an interesting memory and I have written a detailed memorandum on the whole of that visit and my previous and subsequent visits to the Soviet Union which is now in the John Rylands Archive and I have asked that it not to be published while I am still living."
choos
reply to post by turbonium1
Since you are so convinced of the accuracy of your videos and your recording techniques, hint hint,
Can you explain to everyone that since john young at 2.46 x speed up is moving quickly why frame 28 and frame 29 I believe it was (sorry still using my phone) why john young does not move?
choos
reply to post by turbonium1
And I also explained to you that using wires to control the absorbtion of the jump is preposterous..
On one hand nasa is accurate enough to control an event that occurs I less than 0.1 seconds and on the other hand nasa is not accurate enough to control an event that occurs in about 1.5 seconds..
So which is it??
I looking at the absorbant ion of the jump because there is an issue with you recording method.. There is obviously frames missing.. As proven by frame 28, 29 and 30 why is it that john young floats for one frame and teleports about 5 cm the next frame?
That proves that your video capture program is not recording all the frames.. Since they are moving so quickly not all frames will be captured. That is why you miss when john young lands, which is after the myth busters as proven when they both proceed to absorb the jump. Which is clearly after the myth busters. But you say it like NASA had the myth busters jump as a reference to deliberately delay john young absorbing his jump which is impossible..
Also which is it? Is nasa accurate enough to delay john young absorbing his jump to less than 0.1seconds or is nasa not accurate enough to get a jump right that occurs in about 1.5 seconds??
SayonaraJupiter
onebigmonkey
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
Tapes buried in the Jodrell Bank archives finally revealed 40 years later? Do you really expect us to believe that Jodrell Bank saved all the Apollo tapes but NASA lost 700+ boxes of Apollo tapes? That's just crazy talk.
And Sir Bernard Lovell. Let's talk about him.
What does Sir Bernard Lovell have to say about his trips to the Soviet Union in the 1960's?
"It was a sinister time and a lot of my compatriots who went to the Soviet Union in those days in the early 1960s never did return, or when they did return they never survived.
"I was one of the fortunate ones." www.telegraph.co.uk...
"They tried to remove from my memory the fact that they had taken me to their own defence nucleus on the Black Sea coast, because they did not want news of what they had brought back to this country."
Sir Bernard sounds like a conspiracy nut-job doesn't he? Could Sir Bernard is a Manchurian Candidate or a whistle-blower?
He added: "It remains an interesting memory and I have written a detailed memorandum on the whole of that visit and my previous and subsequent visits to the Soviet Union which is now in the John Rylands Archive and I have asked that it not to be published while I am still living."
choos
And I also explained to you that using wires to control the absorbtion of the jump is preposterous..
turbonium1
That's a good point.
Indeed, neither one moves in frame 29.
And, did you notice that Young not move in frame 31 while the Mythbusters guy does?
The same thing happens in other frames, too - one guy moves, the other guy doesn't move at all, or both guys don't move.
Why is that?
Hmm..
Is it due to flawed recording techniques, and/or using flawed videos?
Well, you can try it for yourself, like I've already asked you to do, many times before.
I've told you the specific videos that were used, and I told you exactly how I made frames from them.
You were told how it was done, step-by-step. You were repeatedly told to try doing it yourself, but you've refused to even try it.
What incredible gall you have to now go off spewing a bunch of crap about how it must be my fault if Young doesn't move in one of the frames!!
To be such a delusional fool, it just boggles the mind.
If you think the frame is my fault, then you need to prove it. If you can't prove it, shove it up your arse.
Here's a hint for you on why some of the frames have no movement -
A jump with wires doesn't reflect a true gravity, while a jump without any wires does reflect true gravity.
Do you know what that means, or do you need me to explain it to you?
turbonium1
NASA slowed down a wire-assisted jump to 66.66% speed, just as Jarrah White did with the Mythbusters jump.
Why do you think it's anything more that that?
Don't tell me how a jump is missing frames. Show me the missing frames.
turbonium1
choos
And I also explained to you that using wires to control the absorbtion of the jump is preposterous..
You're telling me it's impossible to have a person (or object) who is in mid-air, say 6 feet above ground, fall to the ground slower than 1g speed, even if wires are attached to the person?
If I throw a tennis ball up in the air, it will fall to the ground at 1g speed, right?
Let's say I attach wires to the temmis ball, and I hold onto the other end of the wires at a platform 20 feet above the ground. My friend throws the tennis ball up in the air.
Do you think it's possible for me to control the speed the tennis ball falls to the ground? Do you think I can make it fall slower than 1g speed? Can I set the ball gently down to the ground?
By your argument, I couldn't slow the ball down with wires.
Same as an astronaut can't be settled down to the ground slower than 1g with wires.
I suggest you get a ball, and attach a 4 ft.length of string to the ball. See if you can drop the ball down to the ground slower than 1g speed.
I bet you can.
Same as the astronaut can be set to ground slower than 1g, without ever having to absorb the fall by bending his knees.
You get it now?
It's a wonder that you shook Duke's hand it seems he's always got a felt tip pen signing everything he can get his hands on...
I shook Charlie Duke's hand. I know who I believe.
I occasionally sell flown and unflown artifacts from my days in the astronaut program. When I decide to place these items in the public domain, you can now find some of them at Farthest Reaches™ These items range from flags and hardware that have flown in space, to personal items carried on Casper and Orion, to personal citations. This is your chance to own an extremely rare artifact from the "golden age of spaceflight" that originated from my personal collection. I invite you to visit Farthest Reaches™ and take a look at the "Astro Offerings" page as well as the "Apollo 16" page. All of the artifacts that come from my collection come with my personal certificate of authenticity.
choos
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
And look at all the proof sayonara has for proving mobots were used to setup the lunar landscape here's a list:
1. Himself
Done.
SayonaraJupiter
choos
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
And look at all the proof sayonara has for proving mobots were used to setup the lunar landscape here's a list:
1. Himself
Done.
Well, the "Ham Radio operator" evidence didn't work out like you guys thought it would, did it? Larry Baysinger is only relevant to Apollo 11. Sven is only relevant to Apollo 17. Sir Bernard Lovell went to Russia so he could be a Russian double-agent.
So I asked you all Defenders where is the "Ham Radio operator" for Apollo 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16?
Surely, you have at least ONE "Ham Radio operator" for each manned Apollo lunar mission. Or you don't? Please have some caution when you bring out the "Ham Radio operator" arguments. One Ham Radio operator, or two, does not prove all of Apollo.
I feel confident when asking the Apollo Defenders "Where are the Ham Radio operators with evidence for Apollo 8, 10, 12, 13, 14, 15, and 16?" because I know that Defenders are lacking for that evidence.
By my count you need 7 more Ham Radio operators to prove the remaining Apollo missions. Where are you Mythbusters NOW?
SayonaraJupiter
reply to post by onebigmonkey
It's a wonder that you shook Duke's hand it seems he's always got a felt tip pen signing everything he can get his hands on...
I shook Charlie Duke's hand. I know who I believe.
Did you get your autograph? How much did you pay for it? $115.00 US?
www.charlieduke.net...
Did you get your signed hard cover book for $75?
www.charlieduke.net...
Did you get your 'exact replica' Apollo 16 Signed Patch?
This Beta cloth patch is an exact replica of the patch worn on our crew spacesuits. $400.00
www.charlieduke.net...
I occasionally sell flown and unflown artifacts from my days in the astronaut program. When I decide to place these items in the public domain, you can now find some of them at Farthest Reaches™ These items range from flags and hardware that have flown in space, to personal items carried on Casper and Orion, to personal citations. This is your chance to own an extremely rare artifact from the "golden age of spaceflight" that originated from my personal collection. I invite you to visit Farthest Reaches™ and take a look at the "Astro Offerings" page as well as the "Apollo 16" page. All of the artifacts that come from my collection come with my personal certificate of authenticity.
How much did you pay to attend whatever function Charlie Duke was having? You are delusional if you think shaking somebody's hand is proving that somebody landed on the moon way back on 1972. It does not equate to logic, does it?
Well, congratulations for meeting one of the 'Dirty Dozen' in persona... don't let your high esteem for the man 'cloud' your judgement when looking at the evidence..
choos
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
And look at all the proof sayonara has for proving mobots were used to setup the lunar landscape here's a list:
1. Himself
Done.
“No one else has ever seen what you are going to see tonight," he told the audience of about 1000 people, who had paid several hundred pounds to listen to his speech. "It has allowed me to see the landing approach as I saw it 42 years ago.”
Armstrong, who stopped signing autographs in 1996 after becoming fed up with being exploited, only saw the recreation himself in recent months and gave his approval just hours before its screening. Source www.telegraph.co.uk...
As part of his contract with organisers, no pictures or video were allowed to be taken during his speech in the city’s Darling Harbour. It is not known how much Armstrong, who resides in Lebanon, Ohio, about 30 miles from Cincinnati, was paid for his appearance, which included a question and answer session with the audience.
SayonaraJupiter
choos
reply to post by SayonaraJupiter
And look at all the proof sayonara has for proving mobots were used to setup the lunar landscape here's a list:
1. Himself
Done.
Why don't you come to my Apollo Study conference? Seats are $150.00 each. You can even stand in line to shake my hand for $25.00! There will be a souvenir booth with keychains, t-shirts and coffee cups and books, wall posters, dvd's and more!
After my presentation there will be a short amount of time for questions from the audience. It will be no more than 30 minutes. If the questions go out of bounds then the question time will be immediately curtailed. *See 50-page attachment for "Out of bounds questions". When the audience question time is over that is the end of the program.
However, exclusive VIP after-dinner tickets will be available for $500.00 which will allow the ticket holder to sit in a large banquet hall with the VIP Guest after-dinner.* No Cameras or Recording devices allowed.
“No one else has ever seen what you are going to see tonight," he told the audience of about 1000 people, who had paid several hundred pounds to listen to his speech. "It has allowed me to see the landing approach as I saw it 42 years ago.”
Armstrong, who stopped signing autographs in 1996 after becoming fed up with being exploited, only saw the recreation himself in recent months and gave his approval just hours before its screening. Source www.telegraph.co.uk...
Pow! Right in the face, Neil Armstrong.
As part of his contract with organisers, no pictures or video were allowed to be taken during his speech in the city’s Darling Harbour. It is not known how much Armstrong, who resides in Lebanon, Ohio, about 30 miles from Cincinnati, was paid for his appearance, which included a question and answer session with the audience.
Truth's protective layers = "several hundred pounds"
onebigmonkey
Where are the wires?
Where are they attached?
Where is the harness to which they are attached?
Where are the two teams of people operating the wires?
How come the two sets of wires don't get entangled when Young and Duke swap places?
onebigmonkey
How come the dust doesn't behave like it's in an atmosphere on Earth?
onebigmonkey
I shook Charlie Duke's hand. I know who I believe.