Disclosure of the moon landing hoax.

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Armstrong At 4:30 "Today a spaceshuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased the knowledge of our universe a thousandfold"

That's funny...After Apollo we decreased the distence a thousandfold. To reach the moon is about 1000 times further than reaching Space Shuttle's low earth orbit. :-)

But the Hubble telescope, which was repaired by the Shuttle in low Earth orbit, has allowed scientists to observe the furthest edge of the Universe! (Do try to stay current.)

hellobruce

SayonaraJupiter
Mythbusters also said you need a 1 gigawatt laser to get back 2-3 photons from the LRRR

Please show us exactly where they said that....

He is not talking about 2 or 3 photons but Is this exactly enough ? How much does it take to make it to the moon and back ? AT 1 minuut and 50 seconds....

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Amazing. You can watch a video that pretty definitively proves that men have been to the Moon and then post it as evidence that they haven't. I agree with the astronomer in this clip.

DJW001
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Armstrong At 4:30 "Today a spaceshuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased the knowledge of our universe a thousandfold"

That's funny...After Apollo we decreased the distence a thousandfold. To reach the moon is about 1000 times further than reaching Space Shuttle's low earth orbit. :-)

But the Hubble telescope, which was repaired by the Shuttle in low Earth orbit, has allowed scientists to observe the furthest edge of the Universe! (Do try to stay current.)

Whatever DJW001....men's distance from earth decreased a thousandfold. I know it's painfull for apollo believers.

webstra

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Armstrong At 4:30 "Today a spaceshuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased the knowledge of our universe a thousandfold"

That's funny...After Apollo we decreased the distence a thousandfold. To reach the moon is about 1000 times further than reaching Space Shuttle's low earth orbit. :-)

But the Hubble telescope, which was repaired by the Shuttle in low Earth orbit, has allowed scientists to observe the furthest edge of the Universe! (Do try to stay current.)

Whatever DJW001....men's distance from earth decreased a thousandfold. I know it's painfull for apollo believers.

What are you talking about? We have a probe that will be arriving at Pluto in the near future and there are not one but two private crewed ventures to Mars in the works.

DJW001
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Amazing. You can watch a video that pretty definitively proves that men have been to the Moon and then post it as evidence that they haven't. I agree with the astronomer in this clip.

No DJW001 even if the reflector is on the moon (and that's not even certain). You don't need a man physicly to put it there.

webstra

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Amazing. You can watch a video that pretty definitively proves that men have been to the Moon and then post it as evidence that they haven't. I agree with the astronomer in this clip.

No DJW001 even if the reflector is on the moon (and that's not even certain). You don't need a man physicly to put it there.

First, there is absolutely no doubt that the retro-reflectors are there. They have been monitored nearly constantly by scientists from all around the world. You can even arrange to attend a sounding in person if you want... just contact your local university's Astronomy Department. As for physically placing it there: if it is possible to place instruments on the Moon with such precision (the reflectors are pointing straight up, not buried face down) why would it not be possible to do that with humans?

DJW001

webstra

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Amazing. You can watch a video that pretty definitively proves that men have been to the Moon and then post it as evidence that they haven't. I agree with the astronomer in this clip.

No DJW001 even if the reflector is on the moon (and that's not even certain). You don't need a man physicly to put it there.

First, there is absolutely no doubt that the retro-reflectors are there. They have been monitored nearly constantly by scientists from all around the world. You can even arrange to attend a sounding in person if you want... just contact your local university's Astronomy Department. As for physically placing it there: if it is possible to place instruments on the Moon with such precision (the reflectors are pointing straight up, not buried face down) why would it not be possible to do that with humans?

edit on 19-1-2014 by DJW001 because: Edit to correct typo.

What are you trying to say...if you throw a reflector on the moon you don't know if he is facing upward ?

You have a 50 percent change he is facing upward. Just throw more and you know for sure one is...it's called statistics. Or make reflectors on both sides...easy does it.

turbonium1
The video clip shows the dust/dirt rises at the same time as Young jumps up. The dust/dirt reaches to nearly the same height as the bottom line of his boots. And then the dust/dirt falls to the ground before he even begins to descend to ground.

If you don't believe that, look at it frame by frame.

since you are able to look at it frame by frame.. why not post this evidence that you found?

from what i can see most of the dust doesnt reach the same height as john young

It is clearly evidence that he was suspended, and that's why he fell much slower than the dust/dirt, which was not being suspended.

strange i dont see what you are seeing can you point it out? i can see most of the dust not going as high as john young.. john young goes much higher..
the difference in height is why he looks like he falls much slower.. but ofcourse somone of your knowledge could surely understand why..

The video is not even showing it frame by frame, because that would show the dust/dirt DOES fall much faster than Young. And that's why he uses two bars, and claims pixels show it is at the same speed.

Look at the frames, please. And if possible, post the frames, so everybody else can see the truth.

if its not showing it frame by frame then how come you said to look at it frame by frame above?? its the same video as all the others, if you want to view it frame by frame go download it from here

also dont ignore all the other dirt/dust.. they all fall at 1.62m/s^2 as presented..

all that dust/dirt is falling at 1.92m/s^2.. speed it up 66.66% and its now falling at around 4.3m/s^2 why do you keep ignoring the bigger picture??

webstra

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Amazing. You can watch a video that pretty definitively proves that men have been to the Moon and then post it as evidence that they haven't. I agree with the astronomer in this clip.

No DJW001 even if the reflector is on the moon (and that's not even certain). You don't need a man physicly to put it there.

First, there is absolutely no doubt that the retro-reflectors are there. They have been monitored nearly constantly by scientists from all around the world. You can even arrange to attend a sounding in person if you want... just contact your local university's Astronomy Department. As for physically placing it there: if it is possible to place instruments on the Moon with such precision (the reflectors are pointing straight up, not buried face down) why would it not be possible to do that with humans?

edit on 19-1-2014 by DJW001 because: Edit to correct typo.

What are you trying to say...if you throw a reflector on the moon you don't know if he is facing upward ?

You have a 50 percent change he is facing upward. Just throw more and you know for sure one is...it's called statistics. Or make reflectors on both sides...easy does it.

Why would you go through all the trouble and expense of "throwing" something at the Moon, then hoping that random chance will leave the equipment facing the right way? Do you give any thought to what you are about to post before you post it?

webstra

What are you trying to say...if you throw a reflector on the moon you don't know if he is facing upward ?

You have a 50 percent change he is facing upward. Just throw more and you know for sure one is...it's called statistics. Or make reflectors on both sides...easy does it.

You just failed statistics.

DJW001

webstra

DJW001
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Armstrong At 4:30 "Today a spaceshuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased the knowledge of our universe a thousandfold"

That's funny...After Apollo we decreased the distence a thousandfold. To reach the moon is about 1000 times further than reaching Space Shuttle's low earth orbit. :-)

But the Hubble telescope, which was repaired by the Shuttle in low Earth orbit, has allowed scientists to observe the furthest edge of the Universe! (Do try to stay current.)

Whatever DJW001....men's distance from earth decreased a thousandfold. I know it's painfull for apollo believers.

What are you talking about? We have a probe that will be arriving at Pluto in the near future and there are not one but two private crewed ventures to Mars in the works.

Well maybe a travel to the chocolate bar factory. human Travel to the planet mars can't be done in many many years to come. Sorry apollo-believer, it won't happen. And there is also no human traveling to pluto.

DJW001

webstra

DJW001

webstra

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reply to post by webstra

 

Amazing. You can watch a video that pretty definitively proves that men have been to the Moon and then post it as evidence that they haven't. I agree with the astronomer in this clip.

No DJW001 even if the reflector is on the moon (and that's not even certain). You don't need a man physicly to put it there.

First, there is absolutely no doubt that the retro-reflectors are there. They have been monitored nearly constantly by scientists from all around the world. You can even arrange to attend a sounding in person if you want... just contact your local university's Astronomy Department. As for physically placing it there: if it is possible to place instruments on the Moon with such precision (the reflectors are pointing straight up, not buried face down) why would it not be possible to do that with humans?

edit on 19-1-2014 by DJW001 because: Edit to correct typo.

What are you trying to say...if you throw a reflector on the moon you don't know if he is facing upward ?

You have a 50 percent change he is facing upward. Just throw more and you know for sure one is...it's called statistics. Or make reflectors on both sides...easy does it.

Why would you go through all the trouble and expense of "throwing" something at the Moon, then hoping that random chance will leave the equipment facing the right way? Do you give any thought to what you are about to post before you post it?

I answered that in the last sentence. why don't you read the whole post before you post ?

webstra

DJW001

webstra

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Armstrong At 4:30 "Today a spaceshuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased the knowledge of our universe a thousandfold"

That's funny...After Apollo we decreased the distence a thousandfold. To reach the moon is about 1000 times further than reaching Space Shuttle's low earth orbit. :-)

But the Hubble telescope, which was repaired by the Shuttle in low Earth orbit, has allowed scientists to observe the furthest edge of the Universe! (Do try to stay current.)

Whatever DJW001....men's distance from earth decreased a thousandfold. I know it's painfull for apollo believers.

What are you talking about? We have a probe that will be arriving at Pluto in the near future and there are not one but two private crewed ventures to Mars in the works.

Well maybe a travel to the chocolate bar factory. human Travel to the planet mars can't be done in many many years to come. Sorry apollo-believer, it won't happen. And there is also no human traveling to pluto.

Since they are planning on using Russian technology, you are probably right.

DJW001

webstra

DJW001

webstra

DJW001
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Armstrong At 4:30 "Today a spaceshuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased the knowledge of our universe a thousandfold"

That's funny...After Apollo we decreased the distence a thousandfold. To reach the moon is about 1000 times further than reaching Space Shuttle's low earth orbit. :-)

But the Hubble telescope, which was repaired by the Shuttle in low Earth orbit, has allowed scientists to observe the furthest edge of the Universe! (Do try to stay current.)

Whatever DJW001....men's distance from earth decreased a thousandfold. I know it's painfull for apollo believers.

What are you talking about? We have a probe that will be arriving at Pluto in the near future and there are not one but two private crewed ventures to Mars in the works.

Well maybe a travel to the chocolate bar factory. human Travel to the planet mars can't be done in many many years to come. Sorry apollo-believer, it won't happen. And there is also no human traveling to pluto.

Since they are planning on using Russian technology, you are probably right.

DJW001 who admits a moonhoax believer is right....this will be in the newspapers tonight ;-)

webstra

DJW001

webstra

DJW001
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Amazing. You can watch a video that pretty definitively proves that men have been to the Moon and then post it as evidence that they haven't. I agree with the astronomer in this clip.

No DJW001 even if the reflector is on the moon (and that's not even certain). You don't need a man physicly to put it there.

First, there is absolutely no doubt that the retro-reflectors are there. They have been monitored nearly constantly by scientists from all around the world. You can even arrange to attend a sounding in person if you want... just contact your local university's Astronomy Department. As for physically placing it there: if it is possible to place instruments on the Moon with such precision (the reflectors are pointing straight up, not buried face down) why would it not be possible to do that with humans?

edit on 19-1-2014 by DJW001 because: Edit to correct typo.

What are you trying to say...if you throw a reflector on the moon you don't know if he is facing upward ?

You have a 50 percent change he is facing upward. Just throw more and you know for sure one is...it's called statistics. Or make reflectors on both sides...easy does it.

tell that to the russians they couldn't get there attempts to work because they didn't have a person to set it up.

webstra

DJW001

webstra

DJW001

webstra

DJW001
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Armstrong At 4:30 "Today a spaceshuttle flies overhead with an international crew. A number of countries have international space programs. During the space age we have increased the knowledge of our universe a thousandfold"

That's funny...After Apollo we decreased the distence a thousandfold. To reach the moon is about 1000 times further than reaching Space Shuttle's low earth orbit. :-)

But the Hubble telescope, which was repaired by the Shuttle in low Earth orbit, has allowed scientists to observe the furthest edge of the Universe! (Do try to stay current.)

Whatever DJW001....men's distance from earth decreased a thousandfold. I know it's painfull for apollo believers.

What are you talking about? We have a probe that will be arriving at Pluto in the near future and there are not one but two private crewed ventures to Mars in the works.

Well maybe a travel to the chocolate bar factory. human Travel to the planet mars can't be done in many many years to come. Sorry apollo-believer, it won't happen. And there is also no human traveling to pluto.

Since they are planning on using Russian technology, you are probably right.

DJW001 who admits a moonhoax believer is right....this will be in the newspapers tonight ;-)

edit on 19-1-2014 by webstra because: (no reason given)

It maybe right but it has NOTHING to do with your Moon Hoax !!!

dragonridr

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Amazing. You can watch a video that pretty definitively proves that men have been to the Moon and then post it as evidence that they haven't. I agree with the astronomer in this clip.

No DJW001 even if the reflector is on the moon (and that's not even certain). You don't need a man physicly to put it there.

First, there is absolutely no doubt that the retro-reflectors are there. They have been monitored nearly constantly by scientists from all around the world. You can even arrange to attend a sounding in person if you want... just contact your local university's Astronomy Department. As for physically placing it there: if it is possible to place instruments on the Moon with such precision (the reflectors are pointing straight up, not buried face down) why would it not be possible to do that with humans?

edit on 19-1-2014 by DJW001 because: Edit to correct typo.

What are you trying to say...if you throw a reflector on the moon you don't know if he is facing upward ?

You have a 50 percent change he is facing upward. Just throw more and you know for sure one is...it's called statistics. Or make reflectors on both sides...easy does it.

tell that to the russians they couldn't get there attempts to work because they didn't have a person to set it up.

To be honest...i don't even think you can work with a tiny reflector because of the fact that the moon is wobling AND the earth is turning. I think that if they succeed reflecting photons, it's just the reflection of the moon itself.

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He is not talking about 2 or 3 photons but Is this exactly enough ? How much does it take to make it to the moon and back ? AT 1 minuut and 50 seconds....

webstra, it's pretty obvious what the Mythbusters are doing here... and they aren't doing science!

According to the paid off Mythbusters & Phil Plait (consultant to the show, Mythbusters episode #104) ) it only takes 1 photon to prove man walked on the moon. And then they finished the segment and asked no other questions about it. That is not a scientific investigation... it's quackery.

QUOTES FROM THE SHOW:
"peaks at 1 gigawatt... that's what you gotta have to make it to the moon and back..."
"we're firing 200 quadrillion photons per laser pulse... at that reflector...
"we're getting back between 1 and 3 photons..."
"...not just thrilling, but conclusive."
"photons came back to our receptor... the only way for that to happen is if there was a piece of man-made equipment up on the moon to reflect them back."

"...so get over it..."
"...there's no conspiracy here..."
"...we've been there..."
"...we've done that..."

I'll just post some info about the Apollo 15 LRRR since this is a disclosure thread.

The Apollo 15 Lunar Laser Ranging RetroReflector (LRRR) array is one of four such working arrays on the surface of the Moon. As the largest (105 x 65 cm in size) it serves as the primary target for laser ranging to the Moon.

The Apollo 15 array is one of four usable such arrays on the Moon. The others are at the Apollo 11 and Apollo 14 sites, and on the Lunokhod 2 rover.

It was placed on the Moon by astronaut David Scott on 1971 July 31.

Mythbusters did not explain the process of how Dave Scott precisely aligned the instrument. It must have been very difficult to align the mirror. Mythbusters did not ask the question if a robot could precisely align a mirror in 1971.

Laser beams are used because they remain tightly focused for large distances. Nevertheless, there is enough dispersion of the beam that it is about 7 kilometers in diameter when it reaches the Moon and 20 kilometers in diameter when it returns to Earth. Because of this very weak signal, observations are made for several hours at a time.

Did Mythbusters observe the photon experiment for "several hours"?

The Soviets landed two rovers on the moon, called Lunokhod 1 and Lunokhod 2, on the Luna 17 and Luna 21 missions in 1970 and 1973, respectively.

Now both Lunokhod reflectors are routinely used, though the large size of the cubes makes them more susceptible to thermal distortions, so that the return is about 30 times weaker in lunar daylight than in lunar night. On the other hand, the larger size makes for a tighter diffraction pattern during lunar night, so the effective cross-section becomes slightly larger than the Apollo 11 and Apollo 14 arrays during these periods.

Mythbusters has not proved that man walked on the moon with the LRRR laser/photon experiment. All they claimed was that a one piece of "man-made equipment" reflected between 1-3 photons.

So get over it Apollo Defenders... don't believe Mythbusters they are paid entertainers, not scientists.

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Do you ever get tired of being wrong the retroreflector returns more than one or 2 photons. What there talking about is if you bounce a gigawatt pulse laser off the moon that is the expected return without a retroreflector. In fact before apollo was done twice. The russians got the idea to increase there return from the laser as well. So they attempted to place 4 of them on the moon using lunar probes this was unsuccessful. Thier problems was getting it oriented to earth and losing them all together and not being able to find it. Both these problems were solved by Apollo since the astronauts could record there exact position on the moon and of course point it at earth.

As far as myth busters of course its entertainment that doesnt mean they're wrong however. First they actually have real scientists as technical advisors for the show unlike you they understand the science involved. And you cannot simulate lunar gravity on earth it is impossible. We can come close but we cant make everything act as if on the moon like the dust falling there is obviously no air resistance and you cant hook ropes to dust particles. the sound stage that would have been needed to even fake this would have been huge where talking the size of the superdome. So who built it and why hasnt anyone said a word. Theyy could make millions writing a book showing how Apollo was faked. Yet no one has come forward out of the thousands it would have took to fake it.

To fake the Lunar missions would have required a small army all perfectly coordinated the US government cant even hide secrets from WIKI how do you expect them to hide this?