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Have you noticed the backtracking from 'end of the world' to 'a new age' ?

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posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:18 PM
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it's always been a new age

like when men went from literally being made of wood or amber or mud

lol



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:22 PM
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I'd like to request from all the "Ascenders"
if I could have all your earthly valuables?


I'm still attached and grounded in this temporary reality
until I die
and in the meantime I could use the help up financially.
Just asking since they will be beyond the need for earthly materialisms....

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posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by scooter3200


First of all, the archaeological record is not only incomplete, I believe it to only reflect what the ruling class want everyone else to know . the scientific community covers up any profound truths that would change the perception we already have. It took the elite much work to create and maintain the worldview we all have, yes it is of their design. Now I don't care how long you been into archeology, how good you are at it, or whether you believe that you should know exactly how the scientific community runs things. you where educated and molded by a system that is false at best. If there "IS" or "WAS" ever any physical evidence that would suggest that there was advanced technology or anything useful, and quite different than what we think we know, anything that refutes the current claims of the scientific community will never be made public. you will never hear of it. Now some stories have leaked, but those are and have been for the most part been squashed, covered up and forgotten. If one was interested in looking to see if this was really how they do things, one could easily find proof in the way of examples how many scientists have lost their careers and been destroyed for trying to display any physical evidence or theory that goes against the mandate of the scientific community.

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you both might want to take a look at Slayer69's "The Destruction of Human History" www.abovetopsecret.com...
which deals with the "editing" of the historical record by TCOTBIP



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
I'd like to request from all the "Ascenders"
if I could have all your earthly valuables?


I'm still attached and grounded in this temporary reality
until I die
and in the meantime I could use the help up financially.
Just saying since they will be beyond the need for earthly materialisms....


lool! speak of the devil


and you shouldn't put yourself down as you are in a better position to ascend
just talk to your elders
about other subjects than history



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:28 PM
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Originally posted by DerepentLEstranger

Originally posted by BlueMule
I think that over the next couple of weeks there will be many lame-ass fools with dumb avatars making threads just like this. I'm sick of it already.


indeed, have you noticed how many seem to have signed up [today especially]
to proclaim loudly and "predict" that "nothing will happen"?

andwith regards with the tread topic:

Have you noticed the backtracking from "nothing will happen" to '" i don't believe anything will happen"' ?




I have actually. I think many are not really hedging bets, but being more cordial about it. I think the sane one on here know they simply dont know what the future holds. I always took the stance of I believe nothing will happen. And for a long long time, I believed something would. But Im human, and am allowed to change my mind.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:32 PM
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Originally posted by BlueMule
I think that over the next couple of weeks there will be many lame-ass fools with dumb avatars making threads just like this. I'm sick of it already.


oh then i better u2u you when i post my 2012 thread
[not sure if it should go in 2012 or Philosphy & Metaphysics, as it is more tangential than directly relating to the 2012 subject]
if i should forget it's titled "Come on in, the waters fine!"

lol did you see what i did above?
great minds and all



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:36 PM
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I have a feeling this will end up like the 2012 Olympics where nothing happened and everybody who said something would happen took credit for nothing happening....







posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:38 PM
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L
L wasn't referring to you specifically
it's just that today there is a surfeit of "nothing will happen " threads
some deceptively titled and 2 or 3 by members who've just gotten their 20th post in
allong with quite a few psychic powers do not exist
the materialists are out in force today
to bad they haven't realized that sundays are the worse day to post a thread as not everybody is home on sundays

i work from home, [computer repair, pirate installs and idevice jailbreaking] so i can be here all day everyday



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:41 PM
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Screw the Mayans!


It seems like these things go in cycles. Remember that minister on TV who predicted the end of the world on May 21st? Can't remember what year that was. A bunch of folks got all riled up, and there was all kinds of drama. Well, the date came and went, and nothing happened. Same thing going on here, only some of these companies are taking many $$$$$ liberties with liberating folks from their hard earned money, mostly gullible people. Kind of sad. Will have to see come December 22 what the next little drama is.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:44 PM
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Originally posted by scooter3200







First of all, the archaeological record is not only incomplete, I believe it to only reflect what the ruling class want everyone else to know . the scientific community covers up any profound truths that would change the perception we already have. It took the elite much work to create and maintain the worldview we all have, yes it is of their design. Now I don't care how long you been into archeology, how good you are at it, or whether you believe that you should know exactly how the scientific community runs things. you where educated and molded by a system that is false at best. If there "IS" or "WAS" ever any physical evidence that would suggest that there was advanced technology or anything useful, and quite different than what we think we know, anything that refutes the current claims of the scientific community will never be made public. you will never hear of it. Now some stories have leaked, but those are and have been for the most part been squashed, covered up and forgotten. If one was interested in looking to see if this was really how they do things, one could easily find proof in the way of examples how many scientists have lost their careers and been destroyed for trying to display any physical evidence or theory that goes against the mandate of the scientific community.

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Of course its incomplete, but it tells a story. And nowhere in that story are civilizations equal to that of today's.

And I'm sorry, but its really easy to sit in a chair and type on the internet how getting something like an educaion is evil. And that all these archaeologists are just part of or are minions to tptb. I have some news for you. Many of these people are hard working, life devoting, truth seekers. They aren't profiting off telling ,what I guess is a boring story of human advancement to you. Most make a low to middle class income. Its not as easy as one thinks to gain tenure. And even when you do, you still have work to do to creep up the pay scale. And this system is false at best? How do you know? Because you read it somewhere on a conspiracy theory board? Or saw it on a youtube video? Have you put the effort in to find out yourself? Did you devote 4 years of your life to not only graduate from university, but excel because you knew you were only being accepted for your masters of phd pursuit by maintaining a 3.8 or higher gpa? Then did you devote another 6 or 7 years pursuing said phd? Putting your whole future in a 250 page dissertation that you had to defend, and if you failed, it was all for not? It doesnt make you beneath those who have, but it certainly makes you ignorant to a system you claim to know is 'false at best'

On that note, it would actually be in their interest to uncover such amazing finds. As they could make millions selling books on the find. Believe me they arent benefiting from moving on with the status quo aside from doing their passion and what they love to do. Its pretty arrogant to assume and label hard working folks who devote their lives, sleeping in tents for months, digging ten centimeters at a time just to find a shard as the elite trying to keep information away from you.

Is it a perfect system? No, of course not. There's a lot of politics in and outside of the field. Lots of sucking up to get noticed, and laws like NAGPRA that makes discovery difficult sometimes. But I can promise you this, and you can ignore this as much as you want. But the results of these people have provided more truth than you will ever find in 99% of all youtube videos or message boards.

Sorry for the rant, but kinda struck a nerve there. lol



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 06:50 PM
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Originally posted by SLAYER69
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I have a feeling this will end up like the 2012 Olympics where nothing happened and everybody who said something would happen took credit for nothing happening....








oh my...
but something did happen
due to all the "ZOMG!! the "illuminati" are gonna do something at the olympics!!" hype; more people watched it
and were exposed to symbolism relating to the Civil Religion
just like the maddonna at the superbowl [zomg!!! look at the "illuminati"rituals! look! look at it!!]

don't underestimate the power of symbols, especially those implanted in the fertile dark soil of the unconscious.

those curious regarding using symbols may check out my "attention all sungazers, you're doing it wrong" thread
where the basics of Clairvoyance/Astral Projection via the use of Tattva symbols has been posted

off topic: when are you going to be posting the "secret origin" of your tribe or are you saving that for the book? [and how is that going?]



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 07:24 PM
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I never took any credit for nothing happening at the Olympics...way to generalize.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 07:26 PM
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OP people are still using the term "end of the world", so what is your point exactly?



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 07:30 PM
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Originally posted by rabzdguy
OP people are still using the term "end of the world", so what is your point exactly?



Well, I thought it was pretty clear. Maybe I could clear up the op, what I was saying was it seems like more and more people are veering from end of the world to 'a new era'



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by bknapple32

Originally posted by Juggernog
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The cell phone thing was just an example..
Anyway, I will say this. I am one of those people that believes that civilization has advanced before and something significant happened and had to start over.
Then people will ask, well what happened to all of the buildings etc? If youve seen that show, "life after people" or something like that, youll see that after only about 1000 years, the only structures left, are the ones made out of solid stone, everything else returns to the earth.


I can personally attest (been on actual digs)that there are remnants of mogollon (mimbres, NM) pit houses and they were basic as basic gets. And if we can find those, then what we have produced would be able to be found thousands of years after the end. IF a civilization was at the level we were at in the past, there would be evidence in the archaeological record, its that simple. And there isn't.


While giving all the respect I can give to your education and hard work and experience, isn't it possible, that much like today, human society was at different levels of development in different places? Just because people had rudimentary lives in New Mexico doesn't mean that a higher civilization wasn't possible somewhere else. Look at the pyramids of Giza. We still don't know why they were built, or when, or even how. Evidence shows that the builders used greater standards of precision and smaller margins of error than are used today. The ancient Greeks had working batteries. And of course, the Meso-Americans, long considered savages, were examining the stars and making calendars. I'm not saying these ancient peoples had the Internet or the internal combustion engine, but they got things done that still baffle us today.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 08:37 PM
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Actually, and this is quite astounding to me and I find it much more fun and interesting than 2012; science thinks that a sort of agricultural and technological( for the time of course) boom occurred all through out the world at roughly the exact same time. now archaeologists posit, and pretty conclusively I think, that the Chinese (as we know them today of course) actually had the first accounts of a written language on paper (for lack of better term lol). But overall, and every professor I spoke to had to say after all their theories, that no one knows how it just boomed all throughout the world at the same time. Quite incredible if you ask me. And leads to many more fun questions. As I said before, to me, far more interesting and based in reality than 2012.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 08:40 PM
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I'm not sticking up for any of the 2012 theories, nor am I bashing them. I don't take either side. However, this isn't really true. I remember back around 2007 or so people were talking about the new age thing. It isn't recent. Also, a friend of mine told me that he was doing some research and happened upon some hippie new-ager book written in 1981 that mentioned the Mayan calendar, and said that 12/21/12 would be the dawning of a new age.

Keep in mind I'm not trying to say that this is going to happen. I'm just saying that this 'new age' thing isn't a recent surmisal.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 08:41 PM
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Originally posted by bknapple32
If you asked people back in 2006 or even 2008, most who believe in Dec 21, 2012 would have mostly said its the end of the world. But now lately that sentiment seems to have shifted to "it will be a new spiritual awakening'.

I can't really pinpoint when this change occurred but it has happened slowly. What I want to know is why? Is it because the date has been coming quickly and you don't want to promise such a big thing, so you back track a little? I mean, saying it is the end of the world is bold claim and hard to argue ambiguity. But to say a spiritual awakening... is kind of... a cop out. Because what is a spiritual awakening? I would argue such a thing is much different for everyone. An awakening for me could be worlds different than one for you. There's no way to argue whether or not 'it' happened. It allows for people to come here or talk to their friends and family on Dec 22nd and save some face.

Maybe I'm being too cynical on this. I'm not trying to be. But Look at it a different way. If I promise you ''3 things to say in a job interview, and if said, you will get the job''... But then as I'm driving you to the interview I say ''well it depends on HOW you say those things. I cant promise what the interviewer will do if you say them wrong'' That would be backtracking. I look at it as the same thing. The majority claimed end of the world. And now I see far more spiritual outcomes as predictions. A highly ambiguous difference.

Note- this isn't for people who said it was a spiritual awakening the whole time. I get there's exceptions to every rule, but you all cant be the exception.

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actual spiritual awakening.. when you get down to the nitty gritty.. on a physiologicla level..
is kundalini awakening..
it's a dormant energy residing in the sacrum... like a battery pack of raised bio-electricity.
once activated it rises up the spine and activates the pineal gland into a whole new level of function.
the pineal activates the pituitary and the pituitary sends a cascade of new hormones to the endocrine glands
at each endocrine gland are nerve ganglia... these are the 'churches' of 'revelation' and the chakras of the east.
they are responsible for forming a heightened electromagnetic field around the body which interacts with a new nervous system that forms.
this new nervous system interacts with reality in a vastly broader encompassing way than before...

telekinesis , levitation, telepathy etc...


this is (and has been building up to this point) a kundalini spiritual awakening on a mass level.
this "mass" of people.. is a small percentage of the human race.

the metamorphosis i'm speaking of will result in these humans making the final shift from homo sapien to homo novus.
this is the freemason's 'great work' .. to evolve us to where we need less outside means to achieve our desire.

the metamorphosis has been going on en large for the past 10 years
the final switch is dec 21st.

to put it bluntly...spiritual awakening = superpowers.
the world will be like nothing you ever have seen (except in movies)... hence.. "a New World" or "new age" ..
and .. the end of the world as you knew it.

it's going to be quite an objective experience for the population as a whole...
your or my opinion on the matter won't change it.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 09:04 PM
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Follow Ron Weinland and that's the exact pattern when you realize you are going to be wrong.



posted on Nov, 25 2012 @ 09:31 PM
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Just as a calendar ends a year at the end of a December, so the Mayan calendar ends the old World at the end of a cycle. A new age, A new "World". That said, there have been plenty of Earthquakes, Volcanic eruptions, Solar flares, CME's, Tsunamis, Hurricanes, Tornadoes and mass animal deaths. Who knows what still awaits us at the beginning of the new World cycle...........



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