Back to this: Papa John and His Anger at Obama Ruining his Business

Originally posted by rgzing
reply to post by ColoradoJens

 

It looks to me that you’re jealous. I guess no one is allow to work and create a business be successful and become rich. Also, I guess he does not have the right to freedom of speech and free enterprise. I guess you would rather that Papa John’s be owned by the Federal Government. What is the deal? John Schnatter is a very nice guy and extremely charitable. Who made you God? You are nothing but a communist. Get off your butt and work and do what John did. It was not given to him. He did not steal from someone to become rich. He sure did not take any Government bailout money, or handouts. I guess you think he can provide health care insurance to ten of thousand of delivery drivers at about $700 a month. I am so tired of judgmental jealous people that have never run a business, have no knowledge of the expense that a business must cover in order to be successful. Plus, John pays a hell of a lot of taxes. Why is it fair that a person that make $10k a year has a tax rate of 15% but a person that makes $500k has a tax rate of 35%. I thought we were all equal. It seems to me that everyone should pay the same tax rate no matter how much they make. That is fair. How about people like you that make their money in cash under the table and pay nothing. Someone like you that buy's stuff on the internet and does not claim the purchase to avoid sales tax. I guess that is OK. I bet you play the lottery. I guess if you won the $250 million power ball you would give it all to the government. Go back to your dream of utopia and try again buddy. If you hate the guy so much do not buy his pizza. Otherwise shut up.

edit on 20-11-2012 by rgzing because: (no reason given)

Erm, where to start? Never have I said Papa J isn't entitled to his money. He has tripled his stock since Obama came into office...yet he threatens his work force when he shouldn't. He doesn't need to, and he'll still be obscenely rich. As a business owner, I know all of what you said I don't. What is this cash under the table?
I think the lottery is funny and have never once played it. If my dream of utopia is pointing out massive greed, than I have no problem "going back" to it. I don't buy his pizza. The one time I did I regretted it. When he decides to not give his employees health care, what are you going to do? Be careful when you are delivering his pizzas.

CJ

Originally posted by JohnPhoenix
Being rich is only bad when you use your wealth to hurt other people.

I agree with this point, however I contend this is exactly what is happening these days. Open your eyes, look around and behold the plutocracy.

The Papa Johns guy will be impacted quite a bit since I would imagine a large percentage of his workforce is part time workers, and probably half of them in college. It seems like a lot of the Obamacare idiot rules affect part time workers such as the ones he employs.

I for one am glad the dude started a pizza chain and has lived the American dream.

I said it before...Papa John has every right to say what he wants and run his business as he sees fit. How we as consumers interact with that is completely up to us as individuals. I personally don't like his pizza...I prefer the Mom and Pop shops to the national chains.

The underlying problem with nearly all of us is something far deeper. It's a greed...driven by consumerism. We have been programmed by media and society to be consumers. It goes back to the Great depression. People were hoarding their money instead of spending it...so...they created these campaigns t get people to buy and spend. Do some research into Edward Bernays.

The real underlying problem is that many-many of us have a mindset of "I got mine so screw you"...that is NOT the key to advancing a society or a species.

It is what it is. We ALL have a slice of greed in us...some bigger than others. Is it going to go away anytime soon? Nope. We can hope that we learn to be bigger, but I seriously doubt it. If I were to suddenly come into big bucks, I'd prob squawk and fight to keep it too....I'd like to think I am better than that but one never knows until in that situation.

Originally posted by muse7
The people who defend these greedy cockroaches are going to be the first ones to be lined up against a wall when the second revolution comes.

That will be a neat trick...

Originally posted by muse7
and these are the people that are benefiting the most from tbe bush tax cuts, but where are the jobs?

Seems like those tax cuts went into the building of their castles.

So? It doesn't matter if you are the richest, or the poorest person in the world, no one has any right to tell you how to spend your money.

It is absurd that people believe they are somehow entitled to tell another person how they have to spend their money, simply because "they earn too much."

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I have to agree.

Absolutely NO sympathy on my part for these assholes.

I guess the concept of giving back to a community was lost on them because when things don't go their way, they pack up their bags and whine.

Originally posted by muse7
The people who defend these greedy cockroaches are going to be the first ones to be lined up against a wall when the second revolution comes.

I will defend the greedy cockroaches.

They have every right to spend their money on whatever they choose. You are not entitled to tell them how they have to spend their money, no matter how "morally right" you feel your intentions are.

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They are greedy morons that have shown their employees and everyone else that they don't give a # about anything but their money.

No, they are not entitled to screw over people like that by taking their jobs.

Though I hope that they enjoy that special place in Hell that's been reserved for them.

reply to post by VaterOrlaag

They are greedy morons that have shown their employees and everyone else that they don't give a # about anything but their money.

So? If it's their company, they can do what they want. I don't see how that entitles people to tell them how to spend their money??

Nobody feels entitled to force you to buy their products.

No, they are not entitled to screw over people like that by taking their jobs.

If they own the company, they can do what they want.

Though I hope that they enjoy that special place in Hell that's been reserved for them.

For what? For not spending their money the way other people demand they spend it?

Obviously, the point is lost on you and you will never understand.

Instead, you'll happily suckle such pigs in the name of capitalism.

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Obviously, the point is lost on you and you will never understand.

That he's threatening to fire his employees? And that's like, bad, so we have to tell him how to spend his money?

I mean, personally I don't really care what the guy spends his money on, I certainly hold the right not to spend my money in any of his restaurants.

Instead, you'll happily suckle such pigs in the name of capitalism.

I will happily suckle the concept that no one has the right to dictate to another human being the manner in which they are to spend their money.

Its really very simple.

You don't have that right.

Warren Buffet and Bill Gates as philanthropists....bwahahahahahahahaha!

You have to be kidding me.

2 men that were known for their cut throat, highly litigious companies that made trillions (with a T) on the backs of small companies and the middle class, get to pay out a pittance to charity (less than 1% of their lifetime earnings from interest alone) and be called heroes.

Yet, Papa Johns wants to run his mouth a little and live in a big house built by a company he started in a closet.

I have one word to explain some Americans mindsets...Winning!

Originally posted by Phoenix

Originally posted by ColoradoJens
reply to post by Phoenix

 

Not in the least denigrating the hard earned dollars of these business men. I am denigrating their disgusting greed though.

CJ

Class warfare = envy of their success, how they choose to conduct themselves is not yours or my affair, they earned it and have every right to choose how to spend it.

Now that's just silly. You're just being willfully ignorant of typical human behavior. Nobody is allowed to conduct themselves entirely how they please. There are social expectations and standards.

What if he wanted to use his millions to fund a private military to commit genocide? Maybe he wants to add a couple of more holes to his private golf course, so he uses his millions to lobby local government to rezone and bulldoze the playground next door.

So, I do not believe that an huge amount of monetary wealth should entitle anybody to conduct themselves however they please.

And most importantly, listening to super rich people bitch about money is FRACKING ANNOYING.

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The point is, these business owners are already wealthy beyond their means. Obamacare will not take a huge chunk of their wealth as much as they'd like to think it would. If they think it would, then I would like to see them prove it because I do not buy it.

Their businesses do not run many, if any franchises where I live so they definitely won't be getting any of my money. Still, I think they have no right to pass the buck to the customers and fire their employees when the economy is already on shaky ground.

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Yeah, dumb hick armies with Elmer Fudd hats walking around in a drunken stupor. They'd kill themselves before they ever became a threat to anyone else.

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Extravagant homes.
Luxurious lifestyle.
Pappa John.

- Lee

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what really ticks me off is this..

there are no new tax proposals on the rich I have heard of..

only ending the Bush tax cuts.

how can you complain to return to your normal tax rate as if its a new tax?

He had Peyton Manning on his commercial to discuss how he can give away 2 million pizzas.

I guess he could always not do that, and use the money to say, I dunno, PAY YOUR EMPLOYEES A DECENT WAGE AND HEALTH BENEFITS!"


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Originally posted by muse7
The people who defend these greedy cockroaches are going to be the first ones to be lined up against a wall when the second revolution comes.

I'm sorry but I think the cockroaches are the ones that want what they worked hard to get.
In case you have forgotten, that's what cockroaches do, just look at the Occupier infestations sweepIng the country.