Back to this: Papa John and His Anger at Obama Ruining his Business

"We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal;"

The Declaration of Independance...a simple paper that the rich have all lost sight of in their pursuit of becoming kings themselves: The very things our founders declared independance against. This was supposed to be a land where all men could live like kings if they so chose to, as long as they do their part to uphold the liberties of the people who are less fortunate than they. Instead all they say is that they will leave the country with their businesses if their taxes are raised, beecause business will become unaffordable (meaning, they will have less wealth for themselves, to build their elaborate castles). When politicians bitch about ostricizing these select few by making them pay the same percentage into society as everyone else, someone should be obligated, in our media, to point out to the rest of the nation that they have lost sight of these powerful and meaningful words. All of the words were selected carefully for a purpose.
I want to see Mr. Papa John making pizzas before he crawls up onto his soapbox to proclaim anything!...and not a few, I want to see him put in a 14 houur shift, and get bitched at when payday comes about putting in too much overtime on the books. Then, I will consider this subhuman my equal....

I am all for hardworking people making money, and being successful. But when it turns to excess...That is just sick. People don't get up to the point of being mega-millionaires or billionaires by being nice. They made their fortune on the backs of decent folk, often times buying companies, and then raiding pension plans, and firing off people. Many billionaires ruined countless lives to get where they are today. Imho anyone whose networth is over a 100 million and growing is a leech on society, no better than those people on welfare.

reply to post by ColoradoJens


The thing that people like you don't get is that Obamacare is not going to hurt the megarich like Papa Johns... It is going to hurt millions of small business owners and their employees...

How telling that you choose some of the richest people in the U.S. to claim that those are small business owners...

Papa John's has 16,500 employees, that is not a small business, that is BIG business...

Obamacare will hurt any SMALL business owner who has 50 or more employees, and yes, unfortunately small business owners who are against abortion and or paying for the pill of women will have to either fire people to less than 50 or lower their work hours to less than 30. You choose...

reply to post by muse7


"Greedy cockroaches"? So he's amazingly wealthy, when did that become so reprehensible? He put out a product that people buy, and got rich as a result... Wow, how evil of him...

Does anyone know him personally? How does he spend his money? Nice house, it'll be a bitch to heat and cool is my first thought... But what else does he do with his money? Donate to charity? Fund scholarships? Anything? Before rushing to judgement, shouldn't one know a bit about the person?

Just asking...

Where's my spot on the wall? A good view of the firing squad, I hope?

Originally posted by muse7
The people who defend these greedy cockroaches are going to be the first ones to be lined up against a wall when the second revolution comes.

Pffft... The mind of the socialists/communists... Straight jacket over here please...

BTW... defending SMALL BUSINESSES is not the same as defending the MEGA RICH... And you might have a problem with those people, but it is part of the price of FREEDOM... But I know, people like you rather have another Lenin, Hitler, Salin, or Mao in power...

Originally posted by Hefficide

The new American service industry model. Weeping billionaires punishing their minimum wage labor force - even as they fight tooth and nail to repeal the minimum wage itself.

BAD, BAD, BAD WAGE SLAVES... BACK TO THE KITCHEN AND VOTE THE WAY I TELL YOU TO! OR ELSE!

On a totally unrelated note:

Dear residents of gated communities. Just how safe to you think a 10 foot wall and a half awake security guard named Clarence really makes you? You might want to reconsider this whole greed thing. The French had a bit of a problem with it a couple of hundred years back and it didn't work out so well for the gated community crowd.

~Heff

Wow...and this coming from a forum moderator...

I actually live in a gated community, but we don't have a gate since we have to spend our community fee on other necessities...

However, I will stand by the side of freedom and you can come try to get me off my $120,000 home which now costs $90,000, and I will fight against lunatics like you... thank you very much...

The poor wish for millions, millionaires wish for billions, billionaires wish for multi-billions.

At the end of the day, there are two things certain in life. Death and taxes. Life is short.

reply to post by OccamsRazor04


"As far as Papa Johns goes, he has a valid complaint, it takes a lot to run a business, his anger is valid, Obamacare will be passed on to the consumer through increased cost of products and services, that's a fact, and it's how businesses are run."

Now Papa J say's he was "taken out of context" yeah, that old canard!!! Did he not say:
"...he would have to raise the prices of pizza by 11 to 14 cents per pie, and possibly cut back on some employees hours."???????

NOW he says:
He wrote that, later in the interview, he also said it would be good that “100 pecent of the population is going to get health insurance” and “we’re all going to pay for it. Nothing is free.”

Yeah, nothing is free, except his 2 million pizza deal with Peyton Manning!!! LOL.
www.newsmax.com...

The backlash has now taken him several steps back. As it should be....the free market/speech has spoken & his pizzas are still the worst from a national company. Just like Appleby's the consumer has told these greedy bast*rds to STFU!

You conservatives should learn from your Papa that:
it would be good that “100 pecent of the population is going to get health insurance”

After all that is the bottom line to all of this and the only compassionate, human thing to do. You know most of you have health care so stop trying to take it away from the rest of Americans. The law was passed. It was upheld. Quityerbitchin'!

Originally posted by toltecnightmare
"We hold these truths to be self-evident: That all men are created equal;"

The Declaration of Independance...a simple paper that the rich have all lost sight of in their pursuit of becoming kings themselves: The very things our founders declared independance against. This was supposed to be a land where all men could live like kings if they so chose to, as long as they do their part to uphold the liberties of the people who are less fortunate than they...

Obviously you haven't read, or comprehended what YOU call a "simple paper" called The Declaration of Independence...

Please do show me where it says that people who earn more than others must provide for everyone else... SHOW ME WHERE IT SAYS THAT...

You also obviously don't know that the founding fathers, and most of the nation, decided to fight not only against a King, but against his TAXES, and RULES trying to RULE EVERY PART OF A MAN'S AND WOMAN'S LIVES... Which is exactly what Obama, democrats and the left want to do, control EVERY part of a person's lives...

So next time you want to try to use the Declaration of Independence, you better do your homework AND READ IT FIRST...

reply to post by toltecnightmare


Oh and btw, as to who is at fault for businesses leaving the U.S., it isn't only or mostly because of the rich... It is because the United States has the HIGHEST CORPORATE RATE IN THE WORLD...

World's Highest Corporate Tax Rate Hurts U.S. Economically


By Joseph Mason
April 2, 2012 RSS Feed Print

Joseph Mason is the Moyse/LBA Chair of Banking at the Ourso School of Business at Louisiana State University and a senior fellow at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

United States-based companies and hardworking Americans face a steadily growing problem, one oddly self-imposed by Uncle Sam. Our current tax system puts businesses and workers at a competitive disadvantage in the global market and discourages companies from investing in operations here at home.

On Sunday, April 1, Japan lowered its corporate tax rate, leaving the United States with the highest effective rate among developed countries: 39.2 percent.

[Read the U.S. News debate: Is Obama's Corporate Tax Plan A Good Idea?]

Under the "worldwide" tax system the United States employs now, companies' profits generated abroad are subject to taxes both domestically and in the country they were earned. Certain provisions are built into the tax code to alleviate that burden, but even those protections are being challenged by members in Congress who seem ensconced on repealing these important incentives for U.S. industry. According to a 2011 Business Roundtable report:

companies can face a tax rate on their remitted foreign earnings a full 16 percentage points higher than the rate faced by their foreign competitors.
...

www.usnews.com...

So next time you want to put blame as to why businesses are leaving the U.S., you better learn to put the blame on the PROGRESSIVE TAXES THE LEFT HAS IMPLEMENTED...

reply to post by ElectricUniverse


Yeah, ah, that's the point. Both of these blowhards are the loudest complainers, thus the thread on them.

CJ

Originally posted by ElectricUniverse
reply to post by toltecnightmare

 

Oh and btw, as to who is at fault for businesses leaving the U.S., it isn't only or mostly because of the rich... It is because the United States has the HIGHEST CORPORATE RATE IN THE WORLD...

World's Highest Corporate Tax Rate Hurts U.S. Economically


By Joseph Mason
April 2, 2012 RSS Feed Print

Joseph Mason is the Moyse/LBA Chair of Banking at the Ourso School of Business at Louisiana State University and a senior fellow at the Wharton School of the University of Pennsylvania.

United States-based companies and hardworking Americans face a steadily growing problem, one oddly self-imposed by Uncle Sam. Our current tax system puts businesses and workers at a competitive disadvantage in the global market and discourages companies from investing in operations here at home.

On Sunday, April 1, Japan lowered its corporate tax rate, leaving the United States with the highest effective rate among developed countries: 39.2 percent.

[Read the U.S. News debate: Is Obama's Corporate Tax Plan A Good Idea?]

Under the "worldwide" tax system the United States employs now, companies' profits generated abroad are subject to taxes both domestically and in the country they were earned. Certain provisions are built into the tax code to alleviate that burden, but even those protections are being challenged by members in Congress who seem ensconced on repealing these important incentives for U.S. industry. According to a 2011 Business Roundtable report:

companies can face a tax rate on their remitted foreign earnings a full 16 percentage points higher than the rate faced by their foreign competitors.
...

www.usnews.com...

So next time you want to put blame as to why businesses are leaving the U.S., you better learn to put the blame on the PROGRESSIVE TAXES THE LEFT HAS IMPLEMENTED...

edit on 22-11-2012 by ElectricUniverse because: (no reason given)

And again, the one sided rhetoric. Funny thing, the corporate tax rate was not implemented by the LEFT.

CJ

reply to post by Wisescarab


If they really did it as you say, those people deserve prison time. However, you have to understand that the left are trying to stir people against anyone who has small businesses.

Look at the attempt by the OP to claim that Obamacare only deals with the rich, when in fact it would affect any employer who has 50 or more employees...

There are tens of thousands of small businesses in the U.S. that will be affected by Obamacare, not to mention that millions of people who are against abortion are being FORCED to pay for abortion against their will...

The left has forgotten that The Declaration of Independence was not just to fight against a King... but to fight against a RULER who had put in EXCESSIVE TAXES, and continued to try to FORCE HIS WILL and CONTROL EVERY ASPECT OF PEOPLE'S LIVES...

Next time some left winger claims those of us who would fight for FREEDOM, EVERY MAN'S FREEDOM, will be lined against the wall, you better look in the mirror...

reply to post by ElectricUniverse

Wow...and this coming from a forum moderator...

Member first, last and always. The fact that Heff is a mod means absolutely nothing in this case. Just as my status as the same means nothing in this thread.

He's as welcome as you to post his opinion.

Originally posted by ColoradoJens

And again, the one sided rhetoric. Funny thing, the corporate tax rate was not implemented by the LEFT.

CJ

PROGRESSIVE income taxes were implemented by PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS under a PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT PRESIDENT, Woodrow Wilson in 1913...

Thomas Woodrow Wilson (December 28, 1856 – February 3, 1924) was the 28th President of the United States, from 1913 to 1921. A leader of the Progressive Movement, he served as President of Princeton University from 1902 to 1910, and then as the Governor of New Jersey from 1911 to 1913. Running against Republican incumbent William Howard Taft, Socialist Party of America candidate Eugene V. Debs, and former President Progressive ("Bull Moose") Party candidate Theodore Roosevelt, Wilson was elected President as a Democrat in 1912.

In his first term as President Wilson persuaded a Democratic Congress to pass major progressive reforms. Historian John M. Cooper argues that, in his first term, Wilson successfully pushed a legislative agenda that few presidents have equaled, and remained unmatched up until the New Deal.[1] This agenda included the Federal Reserve Act, Federal Trade Commission Act, the Clayton Antitrust Act, the Federal Farm Loan Act and an income tax.
...

en.wikipedia.org...

That same PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRAT, Woodrow Wilson, funded the IRS as it exists today and implemented the PROGRESSIVE TAXES...

A corporate tax is a "tax levied on companies"... The same IRS is the one that levies corporate taxes... So, you are extremely wrong...

Not only did the LEFT implemented the IRS with all it's PROGRESSIVE TAXES as they exist today, but they also put in power the RICH BANKER ELITES known as the Feds...

So next time you try to rally people against the rich, and if you are part of the left, you better look in the mirror, there you will see one of the people who is fighting for the MEGA RICH...

Oh and btw, the FEDERAL RESERVE, which was put in power by the LEFT "gave away to the MEGA RICH 16 TRILLION DOLLARS from 2007-2010"...

...
What was revealed in the audit was startling: $16,000,000,000,000.00 had been secretly given out to US banks and corporations and foreign banks everywhere from France to Scotland. From the period between December 2007 and June 2010, the Federal Reserve had secretly bailed out many of the world’s banks, corporations, and governments. The Federal Reserve likes to refer to these secret bailouts as an all-inclusive loan program, but virtually none of the money has been returned and it was loaned out at 0% interest. Why the Federal Reserve had never been public about this or even informed the United States Congress about the $16 trillion dollar bailout is obvious — the American public would have been outraged to find out that the Federal Reserve bailed out foreign banks while Americans were struggling to find jobs.
...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

But go figure... the same LEFT that are in favor of OBama, and the Feds want to go against people like Papa John's when they have STOLEN TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS FROM THE U.S. TAXPAYER...

Originally posted by seagull

Member first, last and always. The fact that Heff is a mod means absolutely nothing in this case. Just as my status as the same means nothing in this thread.

He's as welcome as you to post his opinion.

The difference is that he is implying that anyone who lives inside a gated community is part of "the evil rich" and seems to be oblivious that millions of middle class Americans, who are not rich, live in "gated communities"... Not to mention the fact that whether or not people are rich that is no excuse to imply it is ok to pretty much be violent or even kill those people...

reply to post by ColoradoJens


Thats great all those pictures you show us but how bout instead of PROPAGANDA you stick to the facts and present why Obamas new rules would not destroy his company ? I know your gonna attack me and call me a conservative , even though im not ...SO very VERY Liberal of you

reply to post by essanance


I mean why is it always one side with everyone , you done believe both sides are just as corrupt and just as responsible ?