Giant sonic boom felt and heard in Indianapolis Indiana(meteor? mass devastation Info blocade

reply to post by Tallone


Hellfire missiles are anti-armor missiles, though they have been used on soft targets... How ever, Missiles leave craters too.

So is everyone still speculating or do we know what caused the sonic boom / explosion?

reply to post by jhn7537


Natural gas explosion seems most likely given the events that took place, and the aftermath.

Originally posted by diesel_actual
reply to post by Studiosamurai

 

Also smells like sulfur, NATURAL GAS!

The two people killed was a young couple, both school teachers.

One says their engineers and now you say they were school teachers? Sorry, but on a school teachers salary no way they could afford half million dollar home. I don't buy that. Officers may get discount for that area but still they would have to be dang shady to live in that area.

Originally posted by Hijinx
reply to post by jhn7537

 

Natural gas explosion seems most likely given the events that took place, and the aftermath.

Ok cool, that's what i heard earlier, but it wasn't confirmed yet...

Originally posted by delusion
By what evidence is there any kind of 'info blockade', or reports that witnesses are forbidden from talking about this?
If there isn't any evidence for this, please don't claim there is.

Last night when reporters tried to access the school that the evacuees were staying, they were denied any interviews with the evacuees. Or entry. That information was from their local news page, it was already posted earlier but ill find it and link it.
Also people who were trying to 'do good' and take things needed for the evacuees, they were denied to take it to their location, and were directed to take what they wanted to donate to a nearby church or do it online, still cutting off interaction from the evacuees/witnesses from the neighborhood. That was also from their own local news page.
I feel that is somewhat of an 'info blockade'. Just my opinion, but that sounds like an effort to keep information hidden.

Originally posted by ToadInAHole
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The company he worked for though apparently if I read it right was a start up, only 4 people?, and with only 260K or so of income. Maybe a ==day job? Ok, just exploring possibilities.

www.manta.com...

reply to post by jhn7537


So far, bombs and meth lab have been ruled out. There were no reports of hearing any aircraft, no fireballs, craters so all the other fantastical ATS claims are out too.

potential yield of a natural gas explosion with 1508 cubic feet of natural gas according to combustion ratio, so we have 1591024225.75 joules(1591.024[rounded] MegJoules)

In comparison,

4.184 MJ/kg for TNT

So, 1591.024/4.184 = 380.26kg(rounded) 838.33 pounds

800 some odd pounds of tnt would have done the same or worse. I worked out worst case scenario here, but it's likely the gas air mixture only occurred in part of the house before detonation. So many kept challenging natural gas could NOT do this so I had to use math... I hate math.

Drone reports from september

This was reported in October :

www.youtube.com...

"Sightings of the object have been reported in Kentucky , Virginia , Tennessee"

Anyone unkown to the area -- maps.google.co.uk...

And one of the only two casualties happens to have a crazy resume.

EDIT : map link fixed , for some reason it lead to indionesia

reply to post by Katharos62191

Last night when reporters tried to access the school that the evacuees were staying, they were denied any interviews with the evacuees.

Maybe they are all radioactive and they do not want to contaminate any one else

Seems logical if it was say a.... ufo....

reply to post by Hijinx


You may have math (took your time googling by the way ) but what about logic ? gas fires cause raging fires , leave scortch marks around the explosion , and burn wood . A lot of unburnt wood in those photos friend.

reply to post by Hijinx


That's why I give a couple a of question marks to the notion. I think the poster was not entirely serious about the hellfire missiles, but nevertheless could be on the mark about a military grade/hitech weapon for the reasons I gave.

- think about a show put on for an audience - and I don't mean ATS posters or the neighbors in that street.

reply to post by Hijinx


I agree that there would be a crater, and in the pics I posted its clear there's no crater, but when I was driving to the neighborhood I just cant shake that feeling for some reason..

Something was being stored in that house, ammo/explosives...maybe a small fire triggered it off

Google street view (2007) shows open box truck from lumber company dropping off something other than lumber...

Nobody was in the house that exploded, wife was in ohio, husband was elsewhere...

On the scanner last night i was said that the basement of the home was flooded..here's a theory>.failed sump pump, floods basement, pilot goes out on h20 heater and gas dryer flips over breaking the aluminum gas supply line, water continues to flood basement while gas continues to leak, water then reaches Fuse box, then BOOM!...this exact scenario happened in my home here in Indy minus the explosion because gas was shutoff..

Originally posted by Rubic0n

Originally posted by darkhorserider
The Shockwave hits before the light and sound. The heat actually hits first, then the shockwave, then the light, then the sound. So, this makes sense, if you were a block or two away, you would feel the sway before hearing or seeing the explosion.

For those people very close, it was surely all simultaneous, but the farther away the observor is, the more pronounced the different speeds of effects are.

I just don't see how that much gas could leak without anyone noticing the smell? The next door neighbors were apparently home, how could they not notice that much gas leaking? You don't get an explosion of this size just by leaving a burner on the stove turned on.

How does anything travel faster then light?
And doesn't the shockwave actually carry the sound?

Actually, for a conventional explosion, I'm not sure if heat or light arrive first. There are radiations that propogate through a medium such as air, faster than light, but I'm not sure if a gas explosion would have those, or just a nuclear explosion. Einstein's theory of nothing travelling faster than light is applicable in a vacuum, but not in a medium. Many things travel faster than light in certain mediums. Slow Light.

The shockwave is the expanding gas cloud, and it is expanding many magnitudes faster than the speed of sound at the point of explosion, and for some distance afterwards. The shockwave will dissipate faster than the sound vibrations, so outside the immediate blast zone, but within the shockwave zone, you would feel it before hearing it. At some distance, the shockwave would dissipate and become unnoticeable, but the sound vibrations, especially the low frequency ones would still reach you, so you would only hear it, but not feel it. Like thunder.

reply to post by ToadInAHole


My god we've been over this!!!!!

Predators are only equipped with hellfire missiles which were originally intended as anti-armor missiles. The results would not be the large blast pattern we have here. IF!!! it was a drone strike it would have been done with a reaper, and a JDAM type bomb, JDAM's use GPS guidance and explode when they reach ground level, for maximum efficiency, we would have a massive crater and we do not.

I'm done, I used math, I used logic. I'm just done. Tinfoil hat time, it was the result of a very fine microwave pulse from a blazar in deep space. The focal point of said beam was in the garage of the house hyper accelerating the air to a combustible temperature causing a massive explosion and those reporting chest pains and injuries were hit with valence radiation WOOOOOOOO ATS # yeah

Originally posted by jhn7537

Originally posted by Hijinx
reply to post by jhn7537

 

Natural gas explosion seems most likely given the events that took place, and the aftermath.

Ok cool, that's what i heard earlier, but it wasn't confirmed yet...

Indianapolis resident here.
#'s really strange. I'm watching the news and they announced that a 10:00 PM curfew is being enforced in the area and that there will be "a strong police presence throughout the night."

They then cut to the spokesperson from Citizens Energy company who said that they have tested the area and detected no natural gas leaks.

Some of what I've found-

An anonymous report, of a report from Russia's military-space people stating that drones were seen flying over indianapolis-
www.whatdoesitmean.com...
Yes, I'm well aware of this reporter's "reputation". But read the content. The hell if I know how to find that actual report.

Indianapolis boasting how well-positioned it is to test fly these damn things here-
indianapublicmedia.org...

Gas lines are run from a main along the street, up to the house. Not house-to-house. As a satellite installer, you have to get the ground marked occasionally to dig. Markings show how they're run. It also is common sense, here in Indianapolis.

A single gas line 'leak' would have to leak for a LONG time to build up that much pressure. At that point, the whole damn neighborhood would stink, but not of sulfur. I'm often close to gas meters in my line of work, it smells nothing like sulfur. In these "cookie-cutter" neighborhoods, as we call them because of home similarities, and especially in that area (250k homes), people walk. Someone would have reported it, especially by now.

A man went in to save survivors, and was not discouraged by flames, until shortly after rescuing someone, when the the house burst into flames. [Probably because of the newly formed gas leak]

The meth lab theory is ridiculous. A residential lab doesn't go boom that big.

DHS is there....in force. Questioning the crap out of everyone.

In the pictures, you can see that one house is ENTIRELY OBLITERATED, and a house to each side of it is half-blown away. Here is some stuff to help pinpoint the address-

Pic of 8403 Fieldfare Way- you can see the address on the house. Then google it and go to street view.
tinyurl.com/bcl7yaf

80 of those homes were damaged. 31 enough that they may need to be demolished.

A friend's grandma that lives nearby heard a plane flying overhead before it happened.

A meteor, with all of it's "from space" trajectory would make a big-ass impact hole. A 100lb bomb, dropped from a few hundred feet in the air, would go right through a roof (3/4" plywood), a ceiling (1/2" drywall), and likely still have enough force to go through one more floor (more plywood), before hitting the first floor. Detonating upon impact with the second floor would help explain why there's no crater from a bomb explosion, though. A floor would be made up of at least 3/4" plywood again, plus a finished layer of wood.

Thoughts?





The deceased:
www.wishtv.com...

Originally posted by Katharos62191

Last night when reporters tried to access the school that the evacuees were staying, they were denied any interviews with the evacuees. Or entry. That information was from their local news page, it was already posted earlier but ill find it and link it.
Also people who were trying to 'do good' and take things needed for the evacuees, they were denied to take it to their location, and were directed to take what they wanted to donate to a nearby church or do it online, still cutting off interaction from the evacuees/witnesses from the neighborhood. That was also from their own local news page.
I feel that is somewhat of an 'info blockade'. Just my opinion, but that sounds like an effort to keep information hidden.

Cool thanks. I didn't see this in the thread before.
It is possible that they were just protecting people in shock from being asked a lot of questions from the media for the time being, until they'd gotten settled down and dealt emotionally with their situation. Or maybe they wanted to keep a lid on things until they had ruled out any kind of attack scenario. Though I think in the second case it's wrong to restrict information, but maybe that's policy if an attack is suspected?
What's the situation now though, are witnessess being interviewed and coming forward?

reply to post by Manhater


It's not a half million dollar home, it's valued at like $150,000 iirc

reply to post by ToadInAHole


No, the blast wave would push material outwards unburnt, and yes it can start fires, but it would likely be to any flammable material left in the presence of the fireball.

what happens when this fuel is ignited in air? Do you see fire?

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