If Obama wins and Gary Johnson gets his 5%

Originally posted by Jobeycool

People need to realize the GOP is not the GOP that our fore fathers and Abraham Lincoln molded us into.They are progressives like liberals and their records prove it.

edit on 6-11-2012 by Jobeycool because: (no reason given)

What? The Progressive movement began in the Republican party. Until Teddy Roosevelt was pushed out the Republican party was the party of liberals in the U.S, Heck, the first self-identified Socialist politician was a Republican. You are very wrong about their roots.

Originally posted by Jobeycool
Which is exactly why this has become a very dangerous country.Wrecked the constituion powers.Ron Paul only warns about it every single time He speaks.

edit on 6-11-2012 by Jobeycool because: (no reason given)

I am unclear here. What did you think was dangerous?

reply to post by antonia


I'm sorry but what you think is totally wrong. You're falling for what tptb want you to think. There's no such thing as 2 parties. There's only one party, with 2 names. There will always be two, and only two. No matter which one is leading they govern exactly the same.

Corporate interests above all
Bomb anyone in the world they feel like, for the corporate interests.
Take away as many rights from citizens as possible.
Do everything possible to make sure no one can do anything about it.

since 1972 with McGovern i have never cast a vote for the eventual winner
(i supported McCarthy in '68 but could not vote then, but was in DC against the war & Nixxon)

i am afraid that this cycle I will also cast a vote for a losing candidate, Governor Gary Johnson
(and proud [but disappointed] to do so)

It's not like if the GOP collapses that's the end of America. It's not that big of a deal. This country has been through endless births & deaths of political factions. Starting way back with the whigs, know nothings, progressives, reformists, constitutionalists. It's all happened before. The members of that party would find other ways to go & probably even start up some new parties as well.

I think the true rise of Libertarians would be great for this nation. Or at least a 3rd party. And I don't think the rise of one necessarily means the fall of another. As we all know good ole George warned us of a 2 party system, this could be exactly what we need. My vote is going to Johnson purely in hopes of reaching that 5%. I think he has a good chance at it. Skepticism & distrust in our government is at an all-time high. I think many will look for an alternative name to go to besides the 2 mainstreamers.

300,000,000 people, but the vote is always an even split. They got us right where they want us. And the funny thing is people still think it matters who wins lol.

Originally posted by UdonNiedtuno
reply to post by TheOneElectric

 

We can only hope (and I don't mean that in the rhetorical Obama sense, I mean it in the very real hope that some kind of truly fiscally conservative movement comes of this smokeshow we call an election).

For the record, I am voting for Gary Johnson for this very reason.

Me too man! Me too! Exactly for this reason! Those who vote LP know GJ won't get elected - that's not the point now is it? The point is getting a new third party recognized in the United States!

I'm watching closely with fingers crossed hoping the LP gets 5%!

If you didn't vote early, don't forget to vote today. Remind friends and family to vote as well.

Originally posted by MystikMushroom
Do we have any numbers on Garry Johnson yet? How close is he to getting that magical number?

I truly believe that America is to diverse to simply have two parties to choose from.

There are a lot of people that (for lack of a better explaination) feel:

"I don't want McDonalds...and I don't want Burger King either. I'd rather have Wendy's!"

Unfortunatley, people feel that they only have two choice -- McDonalds or Burger King.

The demographic in America is slowly shifting away from a white majority -- each 4 years minority population grows by 2%. I think eventually the GOP won't be able to rely on the "white vote" like it always has.

It's funny to look at the electorate map. From studies I've read, liberals tend to be more "world-aware" and conservatives more "American-centric". It makes sense. Look at how the blue states are nearly always on the coast. People in these states are exposed to many more racial sub-groups than people in the heartland.

It's no surprise that people that vote Democrat usually take vacations and travel overseas more, plane tickets from a coastal city are generally cheaper.

Like it or not, the world is becoming more and more globalized each day.

edit on 5-11-2012 by MystikMushroom because: (no reason given)

I believe this article answers your question about current support. It's looking pretty good.
I seriously believe Ron Paul did the LP a HUGE FAVOR by going GOP. If Ron hadn't gone GOP then he wouldn't have been able to spread the LP message (and would have been ignored like GJ if he stayed on the LP ticket).
I think alot of people, like myself are trying to capitalize on Ron's sacrifice and get the LP up to 5% of the vote.
Source

I hope this happens sooooooo bad. The death of the Tea Party/GOP would be the best thing to happen to America.

reply to post by Trustfund


The Tea Party is dead. Their Senate candidates are all dead in the water and several of the house candidates are struggling for reelection (and one will not be reelected and will lose to the Democrat). The GOP is through with them because the Tea Party's rather crazy candidates have arguable lost the GOP what should have been a sure majority in the senate.

reply to post by TheOneElectric


Gary Johnson received my vote today!! Gotta get him to at least 5%....I am hoping MUCH higher!!

I would have written in Ron Paul, but I knew the only way to get a Libertarian credit is to vote for the guy actually on the ballot.....

Come on GJ.......We need some more votes for you!!!

That's one thing that concerns me, is that I've been on other websites today saying some people are writing in Ron Paul. As much as we all (Pro-Paul/Libertarians/those wanting a 3rd party) love the guy, for us to hit that 5% we can't do that. It all has to be one concentrated effort to just a single person.

I just read that as of 2 hours ago, Johnson had 4.5%.

reply to post by Dawnbreaker


I was going to write in Ron Paul again this year myself. I am happy with my vote for Johnson though. I think it sends more of a message, and hopefully that 5% gets nailed, that sends a huge message, with a great chance to really spread.

Oh hmmmmmmmm. Question. If they hit the mark, would that also force them to be included in all the major debates as well? That would be so awesome

Ohhh, haha, just realized that 4.5% is only from those first two micro-towns in New Hampshire. He got 2/34 votes from all the voting populace of those towns. That could be good news if it's only such a small percentage, or bad news if it is reflective of the rest of the country. Guess we'll have to wait & see tonight!

Gary Johnson has 4.5 % of the vote...Gary Johnson Be the 5 Percent

reply to post by Chrisfishenstein

Gary has my vote too! Let's shake things up!

I decided to vote GJ. It wasn't easy, because I know he won't win. The only way to help America at this point is to burn it down and start over, but I couldn't bring myself to vote for ohno. It's the first time ever since I started voting in the 80s, that I didn't vote the straight republican ticket.

I voted for Lupe Valdez, the lesbian high Sheriff of Dallas county. Out of everyone she's probably the most honest.

Originally posted by TheOneElectric
Say goodnight to the Republican party, and with it...hard right social conservatism.

Where have you been? Since it's massive swing to the left, MANY of us, formerly lifelong Republicans, said good bye to the Republican Party a few years back.

Hi, my name is nenothtu, and I'm a recovering Republican. They made it easy, though, by joining forces with the Reds.

Hell, they even took the color in 2000, to make the identification easier!