What just happened in northwest Louisiana? Unexplained Explosion

Originally posted by herrw
reply to post by klhbrown

 

Interesting thoughts. I have some problems with them, however. The local news reports featured a video from a helicopter flyover, and there was a definite impact crater (with nothing in it) that showed what appeared to be a shallow-angle crash which stopped just short of a freight train which was derailed.

The helicorder in Bayou Corne registered the blast, which means the shock of it travelled through the ground at least 100 miles. I don't know of an above-ground explosion which would convey that far (or farther) without being attenuated out of existence.

Then again, I'm a crackpot nobody, so my opinions lack any sort of authenticity.
Thus the 7 hour delay...
and per NiteNGale 2
"Apparently, Explo Systems denied an explosion occurring on their property when someone from the sheriff's dept contacted them that night"
And so on...

But could an old bunker have been blown up as cover for another event?

Originally posted by OneisOne

Originally posted by Stevie777
could there have been two or more explosions..????

According to one news article yesterday, there are two blast sites.

As Hooper notes, the blast site is actually comprised of two blasted areas. The ground is blackened more at one site than the other.

ksla.com

Of course that could just be a story to explain the two flashes that many people stated they saw. (I can see the back room deal now.... people saw 2 flashes?? Let's make 2 blast sites!)

edit on 18-10-2012 by OneisOne because: need more coffee!!!

Which could mean a meteor hit and a coverup of that fact was an explosion they set off. The only reason I can figure anyone would do that is if there is worse to come, to keep everyone calm at this time and not let them realize something big is incoming and dragging stuff from space.

Originally posted by Res Ipsa

Originally posted by taskforce4256
reply to post by Res Ipsa

 

It doesn't take a million dollar missile to blow up a bunker full of explosives. Someone with moderate technical skills and a pair of bolt-cutters to get in the fence would be all that was needed. This is no longer a federal installation, but state owned or managed property. Like many de-activated bases, it now serves industry, usually the kind you don't want next to your house. Security, if it exists, is about the same as you'd find at a heavy equipment yard.
The whole thing smells to me, but we really know so little...

I myself do not subscribe to the missile theory, you can see that in my previous posts on this thread.
Some people said that they saw a "slower" than meteor speed object coming from the west and moving east and without the typical tail. Those people's eye witness accounts deserve as much credence as that one poster's fathers account of what may be or may not be the same object.

If for example the U.S. were involved in someway with blowing up the Russian munitions dump 6 weeks ago then the bolt cutter theory just isn't going to send the same message as a sub launched missile. The munitions dump wasn't a target for it's value. It was a tit for tat target. But most importantly it was 30 miles from one of our nuke bases, so it had a psychological impact. They are saying, "look, if we wanted to, we could have hit your base and you couldn't have done anything about it." The target was unguarded so no loss of life to escalate the issue.

Does that clear it up for you, and the poster who thinks I believe a missile crawls across the sky or was launched from deep in Siberia.

I don't believe in the missile theory....but I am just saying that if the U.S. had anything to do with the Russian ammunition dump explosion, this would have been an ideal proportionate response.

The monster size glowing white meteor I saw two nights ago in the S/W corner of California was also moving slow and had no tail. It disappeared behind the tree line on the coastal side without breaking up. The next night (last night) we saw an equally HUGE Green ball, but it had a long green tail and shooting green fire balls off the front and was breaking up as it also went below the tree line.

reply to post by Iwinder


"I mostly discount the meteor/asteroid angle simply because I find it improbable unless things really pick up with that sort of thing globally and not just over Louisiana. "

Please check on that, i think you will see there are reports all over of large meteors and not just LA.

reply to post by LSU0408


If there had been any close houses, then it probably would've. And the bunker explosion was focused upward, rather than outward, so that limited damage.

I'm surprised no one pointed out my mistake...that I was using the 4000 lb figure that stupid girl (her name, not mine) mentioned rather than the actual 250,000 lb figure. By the time I caught mistake, it was too late to do anything about it. That's how easy it is to get all these numbers confused.

Anyway, 250,000 lbs is definitely one serious explosion. It's making me reconsider the damage we see in the aerial footage. I'll see if I can find a detonation similar to that actual amount.

I think we are all trying to figure this thing out with limited information. What might be helpful is to start eliminating scenario's that just don't seem to fit. I can't imagine the government going to such great lengths to cover up a meteor striking the earth, I'm pretty sure that it happens every now and then. My question is why would a meteor hitting the ground make everyone panic that there is going to be more meteors coming and hitting the ground? If it was a meteor that hit the ground the government would have said so, and that would have been the end of the story. Just my two cents.

Originally posted by jaws1975
I think we are all trying to figure this thing out with limited information. What might be helpful is to start eliminating scenario's that just don't seem to fit. I can't imagine the government going to such great lengths to cover up a meteor striking the earth, I'm pretty sure that it happens every now and then. My question is why would a meteor hitting the ground make everyone panic that there is going to be more meteors coming and hitting the ground? If it was a meteor that hit the ground the government would have said so, and that would have been the end of the story. Just my two cents.

What if they know their more coming and bigger one I keep telling everybody Nasa or gorvement will not tell you if this is what is happening until the last min.
Only when they can't keep it a secret and even then they will try to.

more on the hacking angle:

yes, the Explo website was updated on the 16th, and yes it was updated in microsoft word. here's a snippet of the code from the page.



The update was done by Paul Avery, who no longer works with the company (to the best of my knowledge). Snippet of code tells us that:



Mind you, the update might have been an edit of existing data. However, this code is too clean to really support a slash/burn operation on the website.

None of the principles listed on the Environmental Policy page have any form of contact listed. The 'Contact' page does not work.

Here is a picture which I dug out of their site (the security on their site is laughable) which appears to be the inside view of their 'bunker'. Note that a truck is backed up to a door.

explosystems.com...

They also appear to have stock photos of people acting like scientific types. They have pics of stacks of TNT. But that's all they left behind. The directories appear to have been deleted entirely, as if they were in the process of shredding anything that might be used against them. Anyone else want to jump on this bandwagon?

There I finally finished reading every post in this thread.
That recent video was awesome.

I either have to believe that a meteor caused this by accident or something caused this on purpose.
I'm sorry but the odds of the meteor scoring a direct hit is too low for me to rationally justify.
Almost as hard for me to accept is that someone directed either a Rod of God, aimed a space rock, or some other space weapon to cause this....but I guess why would the delivery method matter, whether it be missile or something more exotic.

So it was either a friendly test gone wrong...or right......or it was an enemy that hit their target.....or missed.

So, like in the game of Clue, at some point you have to make your guess:

The U.S. used a space based weapon or tech. to blow up Russia's munitions dump. The U.S. did this to show off to the Russians that we have a new toy and suggest that they back off the Syrian and Iranian support, we ain't playing politics with the Iranian situation.
The Russian's responded with their own space based weapon (probably both made by the same people) and thereby saying....How do you say in Russian, "go smedeeoff yourself?"

What ever the answer turns out to be, whether meteor aimed by God or weapon from man, the odds just seem so improbable of either.

So put me down for Weapon from space and send me my official tin foil hat.

I just think it is VERY relevant that locals that have been in the area *forever* state that before the explosion, there was more air traffic into that AF base than they had ever, ever seen.

reply to post by herrw


What on earth are you talking about? The picture is readily available without any 'hacking', or security breach.

How is digging up this readily available photograph a 'bandwagon'?

reply to post by CLPrime


Suddenly, the damage to the area doesn't seem so consistent with a 200,000-250,000 lb (100 ton) explosion:



Honestly, I think something like that would have knocked over one or two more trees.

reply to post by herrw


Wow that sure doesn't look like a concrete bunker.
explosystems.com...

reply to post by herrw

I'm not seeing the data from the page you noted

but

from the headers there

Main page /
Last-Modified: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 18:58:28 GMT

/COMPANY OVERVIEW.htm
Last-Modified: Wed, 27 May 2009 07:43:29 GMT

looks pretty old.

reply to post by Sissel


It's kind of impossible right now... You'd have to sneak on... I just said I thought about it, but you have to be very careful too...

reply to post by CLPrime


HOLY SHLITZ!!! Yeah I think a couple more trees would be down and we wouldve seen sparks from miles away... Perhaps a bit bigger skid mark...

reply to post by LSU0408


There's also the train sitting next to the bunker that was knocked off the tracks. With an explosion like that, it should've been found in Oklahoma.

The 7200-ft debris plume seen on radar is consistent with a 100-ton explosion, but the damage we see in the aerial footage is less than impressive. We see the area immediately over the bunker leveled, we see trees scorched for a few hundred feet around it, but an explosion like the one in that video should've leveled half of Camp Minden...unless these bunkers really are that good at directing the blast upward.

Originally posted by Trillium

Originally posted by jaws1975
I think we are all trying to figure this thing out with limited information. What might be helpful is to start eliminating scenario's that just don't seem to fit. I can't imagine the government going to such great lengths to cover up a meteor striking the earth, I'm pretty sure that it happens every now and then. My question is why would a meteor hitting the ground make everyone panic that there is going to be more meteors coming and hitting the ground? If it was a meteor that hit the ground the government would have said so, and that would have been the end of the story. Just my two cents.

What if they know their more coming and bigger one I keep telling everybody Nasa or gorvement will not tell you if this is what is happening until the last min.
Only when they can't keep it a secret and even then they will try to.

I agree, the only reason for not mentioning a meteor strike is if it will become a dangerous trend.

Originally posted by herrw


Here is a picture which I dug out of their site (the security on their site is laughable) which appears to be the inside view of their 'bunker'. Note that a truck is backed up to a door.

explosystems.com...

That's absolutely not the inside of those bunkers. They have a relatively low ceiling, completely monolithic concrete structure with a medium sized , heavy duty steel blast door. Nothing like this building.

Originally posted by hadriana
I just think it is VERY relevant that locals that have been in the area *forever* state that before the explosion, there was more air traffic into that AF base than they had ever, ever seen.

Your comment reminded me of the fact that for the third day in a row fighter jets have flown over my house. This does happen once in a while since I am within 40 miles of Edwards AFB and lockheed in Palmdale, ca, but not everyday.

Also army trucks on the 14 freeway being hauled towards Los Angeles today.

Off subject, but who knows what's relavent these days.