What just happened in northwest Louisiana? Unexplained Explosion

It seems that they just about have all the angles covered now.
The final one will be the witness that come forward that were on site when the explosion happened.
They will claim that they immediately contacted explo officials of what happened after attempts were made to contact the police but couldn't get through due to high call volume.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Stevie777

 

Could be a coincidence,

But coincidence often perks up the ears of those that frequent conspiracy sites like this. That, and the complete confusion and amount of time that it took for answers to come out about what should not have been a mystery.

One thing i've learned over the years is, The Media are hopeless when it comes to quality, truthful news reports, Waaaaay too busy trying to get the scoop than waste time investigating the facts....
As for the Police,
They have more pressing matters than running about looking for lights in the sky....No doubt they have had their fair share of headless chicken hunts over the years and are told to put stories like this to the bottom of the list....

Now a Explosion at a Arms dump is a different matter, but if there was no evidence of any explosion to be found after the event or the company who ran the dump were involved in a cover up of some sort until morning, then that's a different story.....

If that happened over here, the Police would be asking some serious questions to whoever was holding back information, if it was a private company, whoever through the police off the scent would probably be charge with some offense, houses would be evacuated in a 5 to 10 mile radius from any Arms Dump if they thought that there was a serious risk to the civilian population..stuff cover ups....act first, ask stupid questions later...

Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by LSU0408

 

A 7200-ft debris plume is consistent with a 200,000-250,000 lb explosion. The bunker is designed to direct the force of the explosion upward, and in the aerial footage the trees seem to be taken out in a plus-sign sort of shape, extending out a couple hundred feet in either direction. That's not a small area, but it was definitely smaller than it would've been had the bunker's design not been effective (and also much smaller than it would've been had a meteor struck the bunker).

ETA: but that doesn't preclude some sort of bunker buster.

edit on 18-10-2012 by CLPrime because: (no reason given)

Wait..wha...? The munitions explosion in Russia last week was only 4,000 lbs and people were fleeing for their lives thinking the world was ending

"Glass flew around. Everything started falling from the upper floors. A neighbouring house cracked in half. You can't imagine that sight. Everyone ran outside, everyone is yelling. No-one understands what is going on."

And the one in LA was over FIFTY TIMES that amount??? And all it left was the equivalent of a skid mark in a three-year old's pair of tighty-whities????

mmmkay.....

reply to post by stupid girl


The Russian explosions involved 4000 tons of munitions... that's 8 million lbs.

Originally posted by CLPrime
reply to post by stupid girl

 

The Russian explosions involved 4000 tons of munitions... that's 8 million lbs.

That's a big bang right there....

reply to post by Stevie777


Indeed it is/was.

4000 lbs isn't exactly small, either. Here's a vid of a 4000 lb IED set by the Taliban being detonated:



This is similar to what the bunker (reportedly) experienced, except in one single explosion. It also shows a debris plume similar to that which was seen on radar.

Well if that's 4,000 lbs then 250,000 lbs wouldve blown close houses away...

reply to post by riverwild


There was some extra info in the video number that wasn't needed. The 'feature' bit I think it

reply to post by Dustytoad


I recall having read that we (the solar system) are indeed moving through a dirty part of space. I don't recall for how long the cycle will last. All I can say is that if fire began raining from the sky, it would hardly surprise me. Strip mine THIS.

It appears that the reported nature of the explosion makes sense based on the data which is available. The only loose thread, now is the question of what it was which set off the explosion in the first place. From what I understand, the de-milling operation in the bunker was handled roboticly (which makes good sense), so no one was there to be hurt.

Theoretically, lack of preventative maintenance might have exposed enough wire to cause a spark, leading to the explosion. This is unlikely given the evidence.

Theoretically, an Orionid meteorite might have come hurtling out of space and struck in just the right place at just the right time to cause the explosion. The chances of this are so miniscule that it deserves to be placed in the category of miraculous disaster.

Theoretically, a 'rod of god' (I love this... I remember when it was proposed by Niven in Footfall, although he called them 'flying crowbars') might have been dropped from space with the target of a little-known bunker in Minden, LA. In this case, everything would have to work exactly as planned, with no failures anywhere in the process, with a technology which has not been battle tested (to the best of our knowledge).

I have another possible theory, however. Consider that the unidentified object in question might not be directly related to the blast in Minden. It was operated robotically, which means that it had to have some form of access to remote control. It is entirely possible (and bloody untraceable) for a concerted effort to be directed against this location from unidentified hackers. One of them managed to hack a drone. Another managed to get into the robotics controls. They both managed to pull off a level of success, which together caused a nice big blast.

This possibility is equally unlikely, but I did note that the website for the private company in question was updated on the 16th. It looked like a rush job performed in Microsoft Word, complete with broken links and amateurish layout. This is what I would expect from a small company which suddenly needed to cover up the fact that their defense-related site got hacked. First you wipe out all the 'muahaha you can't hide from anonymous' messages on the website. Then you call a press conference. Then you delay it, and finally you cancel it when you realize that anything you have to say will seem so lame as to beg further investigation.

Found it interesting that this happened on the 50th anniversary of the Cuban missile crisis. The old geezer himself made a surprise statement the other day after this incident. Not about this meteor but about congratulating graduates or something.

"All Quiet About Explosion"


www.thenewsstar.com...

Ok, I admit I have skipped around in this thread and haven't read it all in its entirety, so if this has been brought up already I apologize.

Is it possible that something hit at an angle and bounced?

From the 3rd video in the link posted on the previous page, it looks like something may have hit, caused a small explosion, bounced, then hit hard on it's final impact causing the larger explosion.


~OkieDokie

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It's very possible, but I think it hit and caused another explosion, perhaps...

Soooooo, what happened to the folks who said they were taking a ride over to the base yesterday? Hmmmm.
It would at least be nice if they would let us know they couldn't find out any other information so we don't worry, huh?

There is still something "rotten in Denmark," about this whole situation.

I think it was some sort of test/demo that didn't go exactly right.

I base this on a few things

1. There's an information vacumn/cover up
2. Reports that there was a lot of air traffic INTO the base prior to the #bigboom (twitter tag/goodname!)
3. First flash - a launch
4. 2nd flash - an impact My sources only heard ONE big explosion/boom

My guess is they fired a missle to demonstrate something, then destroyed it. Maybe the whole train thing was a set up - demo of enemy plans to destroy this train with a low ground projectile SAFELY. Using a space/air based system, the projectile is destroyed before it hits it's target.
Problem is, it wasn't safe. It blew up the bunker.

Just my working theory right now.

Originally posted by loam
reply to post by Char-Lee

 

BREAKING: There certainly seems to be an uptick in meteor activity unlike anything I've seen in previous years.

San Francisco meteor (photo)

News Story.

edit on 18-10-2012 by loam because: (no reason given)

Yes and the main thing is this is not part of the orionid meteor storm.

"The meteor appears to be slow-moving sporatic fireball meteor and NOT related to the Orionids meteor shower."

NOTE HOW THEY ALWAYS TRY TO MAKE THEM SEEM COMMON.



Could we be seeing the missing Biela's?
"1873.] THE LONG BOW 525 The vagaries of Biela's comet, and the elucidation of its mysterious history, cannot fail to form material for interesting study. Having broken into two parts, the missing part may have been bent to another orbit by coming within the force of some more powerful attraction, while the remnant is being transformed into a ring of meteors travelling in the path of the original comet. The earth encountering the new meteor zone or the elongated tail of the comet-if this theory is true-gave rise to the recent radiant shower whose occurrence has aroused such absorbing interest with all students of the mysteries of the skies.
quod.lib.umich.edu...:3?page=root;size=100;view=text

Are they in fact trying to keep us from fearing a huge impact please see some of these incredible ones at the bottom of this page...
www.astropilot.info...

The scientists tell us meteors do not cause fires and are not hot when they hit the ground, but that was not so in the Carancas impact event. en.wikipedia.org...

They are afraid there is a huge thing coming is my opinion and could cause another Tungisia or worse like the craters in the lower section of this page. www.astropilot.info...

Originally posted by taskforce4256
reply to post by Res Ipsa

 

It doesn't take a million dollar missile to blow up a bunker full of explosives. Someone with moderate technical skills and a pair of bolt-cutters to get in the fence would be all that was needed. This is no longer a federal installation, but state owned or managed property. Like many de-activated bases, it now serves industry, usually the kind you don't want next to your house. Security, if it exists, is about the same as you'd find at a heavy equipment yard.
The whole thing smells to me, but we really know so little...

I myself do not subscribe to the missile theory, you can see that in my previous posts on this thread.
Some people said that they saw a "slower" than meteor speed object coming from the west and moving east and without the typical tail. Those people's eye witness accounts deserve as much credence as that one poster's fathers account of what may be or may not be the same object.

If for example the U.S. were involved in someway with blowing up the Russian munitions dump 6 weeks ago then the bolt cutter theory just isn't going to send the same message as a sub launched missile. The munitions dump wasn't a target for it's value. It was a tit for tat target. But most importantly it was 30 miles from one of our nuke bases, so it had a psychological impact. They are saying, "look, if we wanted to, we could have hit your base and you couldn't have done anything about it." The target was unguarded so no loss of life to escalate the issue.

Does that clear it up for you, and the poster who thinks I believe a missile crawls across the sky or was launched from deep in Siberia.

I don't believe in the missile theory....but I am just saying that if the U.S. had anything to do with the Russian ammunition dump explosion, this would have been an ideal proportionate response.

Originally posted by LSU0408
"All Quiet About Explosion"


www.thenewsstar.com...

"Explo Systems Inc. officials canceled two news conferences Tuesday morning. Explo has not yet made an official statement about the blast."

this is unacceptable.

I have been following this thread from the get go and after reading all of the posts and a good chunk of the links so kindly provided, I thought I would post my thoughts on this and these are just thoughts.

As almost 100% of the posters here have stated what about the eye witness accounts, I agree with this.
They cannot be scrubbed from the internet because they have spoken and have been quoted.

The changing stories is in the same ball park, either this is intentional or there really is nobody in charge and the left hand does not know what the right hand is doing........possible I suppose.

The problem with the changing stories is we are talking a munitions bunker and there better damn well be somebody watching the hen house in my opinion.

The terrible videos from the news helicopters also rang some bells with me, we have a 5 year old digital camera that would have put those shots to shame.

One poster mentioned that this site is indeed guarded and armed at the gates, therefor it could indeed be a target from some entity because if it is guarded it must be important.

One thing that strikes me as odd is they allow hunters and children on site as far as I could gather from the thread and that makes me think it is not an important munitions site?

The one video posted that showed the actual flash then shaking then flash and more shaking really got me sitting up straight.
We don't have any munitions around our area but we do have multiple refineries and if that happened here we would have hopped in our truck and be gone.

What I am trying to convey is that those flashes were terrifying beyond my imagination.

The accident in Russia at a munitions site and now this tends to sway me to a tit for tat scenario which has been posted by quite a few here.

I mostly discount the meteor/asteroid angle simply because I find it improbable unless things really pick up with that sort of thing globally and not just over Louisiana.

I think the spin doctors are lacking sleep as I type this post, I also believe in my humble opinion this was no accident.

To the OP S&F
To all the posters here regardless of opinions I thank you for your Links provided and your thoughts and musings on this exceptionally interesting topic.


Enjoying the ride here and will stay tuned.

Regards, Iwinder