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I've given up on politics and am now sort of considering becoming a 2012'er. I figure Niburu is more likely, at this point, than an honest POTUS.
But, you ARE voting Obama, right?
Originally posted by sonnny1
This guy is Dangerous.
He had no problem resigning the Patriot Act, and enacting NDAA.
It Goes beyond Fascism.
Just think. There are those that want another 4 years, of this........
Originally posted by silo13
reply to post by AngelofTheSun
I see this as good news. Close your back accounts now, and the problem is solved.
I would agree if it wasn't so unrealistic. Also - 'all assets' may be seized and any and all assets owned by a third person who's dubbed to be acting as a 'go between'.
So that means your house, car, computer etc can be sized just not your cash. And if you're using anything that's owned by someone else (on paper) but it's decided that person bought the item for you? It's gone too.
I agree that change starts with us - but change at this late date? I just don't see it happening.
peace
And I remind you that your precious Bush created the Patriot Act and removed more of your liberties and freedoms than anyone cares to admit.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
All the pro Obama people are defending this EO, saying it only applies to people dealing with Syria and Iran. If Bush had enacted this EO would you still be defending it? Just wondering. Be honest to yourselves, I do not need an answer.
Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus
All the pro Obama people are defending this EO, saying it only applies to people dealing with Syria and Iran. If Bush had enacted this EO would you still be defending it? Just wondering. Be honest to yourselves, I do not need an answer.
Originally posted by silo13
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So what's my point? If you can be labeled a terrorist for such mundane and really idiotic reasons? Then you'd better read up because the below applies to you.
The order says that if an individual is declared by the president, the secretary of state, or the secretary of the treasury to be a “sanctioned person,” he (or she) will be unable to obtain access to his accounts, will be unable to process any loans (or make them), or move them to any other financial institution inside or outside the United States. In other words, his financial resources will have successfully been completely frozen. The EO expands its authority by making him unable to use any third party such as “a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, subgroup or other organization” that might wish to help him or allow him to obtain access to his funds.
newamer ican
And there's not a thing you can do about it. Not. One. Thing. But hey! The good news? Now our money is just as 'safe' as we are.
Originally posted by detachedindividual
And I remind you that your precious Bush created the Patriot Act and removed more of your liberties and freedoms than anyone cares to admit.
Originally posted by phroziac
Originally posted by AngelofTheSun
reply to post by silo13
I see this as good news. Close your back accounts now, and the problem is solved.
If anyone who knows truth still has an account, then you too are part of the problem. Change starts with you.
Some people travel so much on the job that they have to have direct deposit for their paychecks......
Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul
Originally posted by silo13
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So what's my point? If you can be labeled a terrorist for such mundane and really idiotic reasons? Then you'd better read up because the below applies to you.
The order says that if an individual is declared by the president, the secretary of state, or the secretary of the treasury to be a “sanctioned person,” he (or she) will be unable to obtain access to his accounts, will be unable to process any loans (or make them), or move them to any other financial institution inside or outside the United States. In other words, his financial resources will have successfully been completely frozen. The EO expands its authority by making him unable to use any third party such as “a partnership, association, trust, joint venture, corporation, subgroup or other organization” that might wish to help him or allow him to obtain access to his funds.
newamer ican
And there's not a thing you can do about it. Not. One. Thing. But hey! The good news? Now our money is just as 'safe' as we are.
Calling this "seizure" seems to be a sensationalist nonsense.
Freezing bank accts has been done for ages - IIRC there are still people taking court cases to get hold of Iranian accts seized as a result of the hostage fiasco aren't there??
Freezing accts was allowed under Bush too.
I say it's a BS beatup