Ancient Aliens Debunked (Full Length Movie)

reply to post by Dustytoad

I tried to make it look like a fish. I did it a bunch of times cause I have previously seen that picture and my mind just goes "Airplane." I reset it Fish Fish Fish, but I can't make it work. It's a plane.

Why would an advanced extraterrestrial species use a primitive delta wing fighter?

The ancient maps the Mayans made of Antarctica are very accurate, so accurate that it would be impossible to create them without flying over Antarctica. These maps are hard to refute but I would entertain some arguments debunking them.

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Dustytoad

 

I tried to make it look like a fish. I did it a bunch of times cause I have previously seen that picture and my mind just goes "Airplane." I reset it Fish Fish Fish, but I can't make it work. It's a plane.

Why would an advanced extraterrestrial species use a primitive delta wing fighter?

How advanced where they? What was their name? Where did they come from?
Answer those and then I may be able to answer you. I also never said it was an alien plane...

I'll ask you a question meanwhile, why would an advanced terrestrial species spend all it's money on killing others?

Silly...

Meanwhile to help out your future arguments against me I go back and forth on aliens coming here, and humans naturally rising to high technology and getting reset back into caves, only to re-emerge again.

Originally posted by blindlyzack
Sum it up, I'm not watching a 3 hour movie.

Ditto.And thats 3hrs.10mins.

reply to post by Dustytoad

How advanced where they? What was their name? Where did they come from?
Answer those and then I may be able to answer you. I also never said it was an alien plane...

No, you just said it was a plane.

As for your other questions, the only one that is relevant is "how advanced were they?" Delta wing fighters were high tech in the 1960s, when Von Daniken was peddling his nonsense. They now look ridiculously retro. On the other hand, they do look very much like fish.

Originally posted by jimmiec
The ancient maps the Mayans made of Antarctica are very accurate, so accurate that it would be impossible to create them without flying over Antarctica. These maps are hard to refute but I would entertain some arguments debunking them.

If you could provide one or more sources for this claim it would be appreciated.

According to Edgar Cayce the human species is 10.5 million years old. If he was right then the human race could have evolved to the point we are at now many times. Maybe there are no aliens, maybe the aliens are humans that left and keep coming back to check on our progress.

I think Ancient texts are more credible than contemporary stories of other wordly beings. Because people had no neccessity to lie and weren't making money ouf this.. Also there are cases of real events being described and explicitly pointed as having happened. In Ancient China, or in Japan the woman coming from some round like a ball machien from the sea. The VIMANAS, all these anciet stuff.

You already know that the Nazi took their swastika from India if not elsewhere -there are these swastikas on some temples or walls. It is I think true that the Nazi were looking to invent a Wunderwaffe and have explored the ancient texts about it. That's why I do not understand why Swastika isn't allowed to be drawn

And it's possible that today sightings are replicated technology from the past by such visitors or developed ideas or something. Though I don't see how do you develop an idea when the ancients didn't know electromagnetism or did they - since they know where to get Earth's power - or some visitors did?

It all remains a question to me, debunked sounds unserious.

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Supposedly a Captain made these maps from other ancient maps when Antarctica was still covered in ice. It has been laid over modern maps and is extremely accurate.

I thought the Tolima section was one of the best as well as the pyramid building section. This is only a five minute video and I believe it shows very clearly that it takes creative editing to throw out the hundred plus animal totems found in the same burial site and simply say the 10 or so ones with "wings" must be ancient alien airplanes or flying craft. Why would all the other stylized animal totems be left out and they simply show these with wings. The facts are that most people will not go look up Tolima Animal totems to find out these facts, and thus this "ancient alien flying machines" must be real! Sure, it's their theory as some want to say, but it's deceptive education. A true scientist and truth seeker wants all the evidence.

This sort of reminds me of going to court and only the prosecution presents their facts against you, and the jury never gets to hear what the prosecutor chose to leave out. I think that is the real point the ancient aliens debunked site is focusing upon. It's not that this information is not known, it's that it's obviously left out, and thus why? What causes people to leave out information like this? Well, I believe these individuals have an agenda to sell books and while I am all for successfuly capitalism, I am also for truth. These guys need to sell people on the "ancient aliens" "TRUTH" to sell more books and get you to go to hear them speak. You think these guys are poor? There is huge money is this "aliens" and "Elites are evil" market. Yes, the elites are evil, but there seems to be a need to leave out info and push complete b.s. to sell their "theories". How much money can someone make at an event?

"David Icke is just a huge fraud—He claims he doesn’t have much money and he says he is motivated to do what he does, because of a need to do what is right: What total cobblers!!! I’ve never heard so much bull# in my entire life In October, Icke the Almighty will grace the United Kingdom with his esteemed presence and deliver one of his ‘cutting edge’, ‘groundbreaking’ lectures, at the Wembley Arena. Doubtless it will probably be totally sold out. Anyway, the tickets are retailing for between £42.00 – £62.00 for the best seats.

Wembley Arena has a seating capacity of exactly 12,500. Working on a mean average of £50.00 per seat, this means assuming it’s sold out, the event will make a grand total of £625,000-00!!! This is of course not including T-shirts, books, DVDs etc etc etc that will doubtless be on sale at the event. I don’t know yet how much it costs to hire Wembley Arena and what sort of facilities are thrown in for the hire cost i.e. PA etc etc. Anyway, even at a conservative estimate, I reckon Icke has still got to pocket at least 50% of this £625,000-00!!! That’s over £300,000 for one appearance." www.icke-exposed.co.uk...

So, is it worth 5 minutes of your time to expose yourself to all the information they left out of "Ancient Aliens" episode about Tolima? I think so:

Originally posted by DJW001
reply to post by Dustytoad

 

How advanced where they? What was their name? Where did they come from?
Answer those and then I may be able to answer you. I also never said it was an alien plane...

No, you just said it was a plane.

As for your other questions, the only one that is relevant is "how advanced were they?" Delta wing fighters were high tech in the 1960s, when Von Daniken was peddling his nonsense. They now look ridiculously retro. On the other hand, they do look very much like fish.

I said "I never said it was an ALIEN plane." You cannot read and whoever starred you cannot read. I never claimed aliens. Re-read it. The reason I was asking you about advanced and primitive is I can see the problem you are having with this. You think we are the most advanced this planet has ever been. Some race could have had planes back in the day, maybe atlantis? That type of plane would be the type to land on cut off mountain tops...

Geez.

I never said I KNEW those were models of planes either, I only said my brain kept saying that even when I tried to switch it to fish. I can see eyes on it, but that could be just style, even A10s have faces on them to this day, haha..

If you read my other post clearly it states that I leave it open that aliens may have come here, but most of everything was just us. I don't really like the AA theory.

Originally posted by autowrench
Why do people who do not take it seriously spend so much time and effort trying every single tactic to debunk it then? If it doesn't threaten your faith, then why bother? Watch something else, like America Idol, or the 700 club.

You're painting with a mighty large brush there,my friend.

I do not take the show seriously and I have never once spent ANY time attempting to debunk the show...Not in any way what so ever...And I hate American Idol and I am also Atheist at worst, agnostic at best.... So the 700 club is not really my thing...

I do believe in aliens and I have seen UFO's three times in my life... I just find the show to be a whole lot of nonsense, conclusion jumping and speculation.That is my opinion and my opinion alone.


Do ATS a favor and try not to stereotype,will you?

This Documentary was absolutely amazing. But there is certain things he didnt even bring up such as the Mayan Artifacts and the Nuremberg incident of 1561. Also i found his explanation of how the Giza Pyramids were built very plausible but the evidence thus far is inconclusive. But great Documentary nonetheless.

Originally posted by Zeer0
This Documentary was absolutely amazing. But there is certain things he didnt even bring up such as the Mayan Artifacts and the Nuremberg incident of 1561. Also i found his explanation of how the Giza Pyramids were built very plausible but the evidence thus far is inconclusive. But great Documentary nonetheless.

Which part is that I'd like to hear it? (giza)

I have ancient aliens on right now and they just made me spit out my coke.. Georgio with his hair is all like "Just look at the mayan sun disk thing, it looks JUST like the large hadron collider (they show the circle end of the hadron collider and the mayan circle thing.

Yes buddy,

they are circles...

hahahhaa

I can't stand that guy. I want to throw rotten tomatoes at him whenever he speaks out.

He uses poor reason.

And his whole big schtick is that "humans are just too stupid to do ANYTHING without alien intervention".

Well, I've got news for him.

If humans aren't so smart, then how come we can learn anything at all and why assume that aliens are so smart that they can learn anything at all and who taught them?

So on and so forth.

Basically, what he is really doing is creating a circular argument based on absolutely no real evidence other than he is completely incapable of understanding that humans are far more intelligent that he wants to give them credit for.

And it is also contradictory in that if humans are so unintelligent then they can learn a damned thing then he can't be using his assumptions that humans are too unintelligent to learn anything to even come to the conclusion that aliens must have dun it. (Misspelling on purpose).

While I like the speculation that aliens did come to earth to give us a guiding hand, I want real evidence, and not just assumptions based on no evidence before I will believe. I can't stand poor reasoning.

Conclusions must be based on existing evidence, not on lack of evidence, and this is the only way that they can be verified.

And to me, the evidence I will accept is something like a flying saucer landing on the White House lawn.

reply to post by EvilSadamClone


Did you watch the moon landing in person? Were you there? I guess not so... how can you believe anything if your beliefs are only based on a "see to believe" method? Those are not "beliefs" those are "undeniable facts". If aliens would drop down in the white house you wouldnt "believe" in aliens, you would officially recognize their existence.

AA does go too far, but its the simple things that make scholars wonder. You think an archaeologist - even a non-mainstream one - would lose sleep over the pyramids or if it there are aliens connected to the Maya?

Thinks simple..., like... how every god, prophet or messiah from allover the world, in completely disconnected civilizations in different times, sometimes separated from thousands of years, every single one of them got here, did something important like, from building the universe to the simple "die for our sins", and then every single one of them "left" and every single one of them told that they would "return".

If you want to make it complicated, again you dont need to go to pumapunku or giza... you may want to go after something more elaborated and out of place, like the antikythera mechanism or the baghdad battery. And you can also ask yourself what was in Alexandria that made early christians burn the library down, and how come, if it was really burned to the ground, does the vatican have parchments that should belong to the great library. And btw how weird is that you cant visit their archives? Every historian or archaeologist would sell their own mother, wife and kids to see what they have in there.

We dont need AA to lose our minds with mundane things like the bloody arc of the covenant. There are so many "mundane" things that dont make sense.

It obvious the guy who made this video spent more time doing actual research than the people who made Ancient Aliens.

Anyone who is refusing to watch this video because 'its to long' is in that Egyptian river otherwise known as...denial.

reply to post by FraternitasSaturni

how can you believe anything if your beliefs are only based on a "see to believe" method?

i did not say see to believe, I said examine the evidence and make your conclusions on what the evidence tell you, and don't let what you want or don't want to believe get in the way of what the evidence tells you.

This is called a strawman, and putting words in somebody's mouth. I'm getting really tired of people's lack of reading around here.

I said I wouldn't be replying anymore to this thread, but, this is more on a note of humor than argument or debate. If you've seen it, then, here it is again. If not, perhaps you'll be entertained.

Some Koind of Skoy, Legends and MILFS


enjoy.

done.