Russia And China Join Forces And Prepare For War Against The Falling Apart U.S. Can we win this one

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by penninja

 

The problem with Global Warming which is a byproduct of our burning of fossil fuels which China as it develops will need more and more of it to burn...is that in a Closed System...such as is the Earth...a few degrees mean the difference between normal storms and Massive Hurricanes, Tornado's and Flooding.

We are having Tornado's in Mass! The storms will keep on getting stronger and stronger as within any closed system...the more energy put in...in this case Heat...the greater the effect. Split Infinity

Yeah

I think an ongoing point I have had through the last few pages is depopulation to an extent is fine in their book, Global dominance doesn't require numbers these days. You were being very correct in your understanding earlier of the US military capacity, that capacity takes maybe 10-15 Million people, the rest as they say are useless eaters

Tornadoes and Supercanes and Heat stroke OH MY

Katrina, Thousands lost their homes and dispersed accordingly after buying tons of liquor and porn with their relief money and Halliburton got fitted for bio diesel and the Military is slowly getting naval access to middle America

Every body wins LOL

They don't give a dang, open up New Orleans put it underwater, next target Venezuela they could use the inland Naval facility the people are fodder.

Global warming? Egypt wont have FOOD we still will thanks to Monsanto ( I named a demon after them in a D and D campaign i run)


You know... if you looked at Europe before the discovery of America the rulers had a very similar gloomy attitude about resources, You and I know this is all BS that the next thing economically could be as simple as towing in an asteroid, geothermal done right will solve everything, the world can hold 40 Billion more people Island building will one day be perfected. etc etc et al

Our leaders believe in depopulation and global dominance because they are fatalists...it sounds insane, it likely is insane. But there are those who Want this stuff to happen.

Originally posted by SplitInfinity
reply to post by penninja

 

How about running Fusion Reactors at relatively Low Temps.? No radioactive byproduct.
Split Infinity

How about the use of incredibly strong low weight geothermal towers with windmill reaching five miles into the sky? Water condensation from the top flows down irrigating the land and provides fresh water heat from below spins the fans and the whole thing can further be made fitted with a vast solar array lol

yeah man, as crazy as it is Nuclear is Old news, dirty energy, bad stuff and the only obstacle is.... uh oh Money

I think Star trek was one of the lamest shows ever produced, but Roddenberry had a lot right, Money as we know it needs to be gone and it wont happen until a lot of people die.

reply to post by penninja

Fission Reactors are Bad News....Fusion on the other Hand is Clean and Safe...the problem is...the Tech. is being held back. Think about it? What do you need for Fuel in a Fusion Reactor? WATER! Run an electric charge through Water and you get Hydrogen and Oxygen. The problem of the past was that Fusion of Hydrogen into Helium not only generates Massive amounts of Energy but it occurs at a Very High Temp. thus containment is an issue.

Low Temp. Fusion is the answer and even though there was many reports that this had been accomplished at several Universities...it was hushed up and you don't hear much about it any more. Why would they stop trying? Maybe because they know how to do it!

Plus since the process was inexpensive and generates virtually Unlimited Energy...who would make Money?
It is all a matter of Money. Split Infinity

Russia and China won't go to war with NATO.

The following reasons explain why.

1. Russia aren't as powerful and as much of a threat as we're lead to believe.
2. Russia's economy isn't the strongest, thus it they got sanctioned they'd be in trouble.
3. China can't afford to go to war with it customers unless it's attacked. We, in the West, buy all sorts of crap from China, which is why they are booming, but it seems like China will implode on itself due to less demand.

There will be no World War for at least another 50 years, it'll be another Cold War.

reply to post by Krono

There we go! Someone who gets that CHINA'S entire economy is based on the U.S. buying their exports which are a bunch of crap we don't really need! The ONLY reason the U.S. is not enforcing unfair Trade Practices done by China is that as the Chinese Middle Class grow...so does the Chinese Citizens desire to have a Democratic Government Grow.

Educated Middle Class China has been a CREATION OF THE UNITED STATES! We have allowed China to unfairly Trade with us in order to reach a TIPPING POINT...which is now VERY close. As the Old Communist Guard dies out...a New Young China will arise and demand FREEDOMS. This is and has been a long term plan by the U.S. and although it has cost us...in the end...it will work to our benefit.

Russia has alot of issues but they have large Natural Resources but need American Drilling Tech. to reach deep underground Siberian Oil Fields. Putin's Bitching is all Hollow Talk as Russia has allowed it's Military to degrade to such a poor state of disrepair that they are no threat to the U.S. Split Infinity

reply to post by SplitInfinity


No bombs need to be dropped in an economic,resource based war
Although why would China be building such a massive military,for fun? The USA's agenda in the oil rich ME is all but transparent since the GW1 and did you know that China is pursuing a global buying spree in which it is buying up mines, energy fields, natural resources,in fact China now actually owns all the mineral rights around the world!…and by doing so they essentially control it
Can't tell me there isn't a world conflict over money,and resources because there is..always has been,and it's just going to get worse..

reply to post by Uneedhlp247


Dear Uneedhlp247

If WW3 happens there will be NO winners.

There will be at very least BILLIONS of losers, up to all gone.

Those who are unfortunate enough to survive will FOR SURE ENVE THE DEAD.

I just wish all the nitwits out there realized this.

Naturally they will not as they are for sure NITWITS.

Originally posted by MAC269
reply to post by Uneedhlp247

 

Dear Uneedhlp247

If WW3 happens there will be NO winners.

There will be at very least BILLIONS of losers, up to all gone.

Those who are unfortunate enough to survive will FOR SURE ENVE THE DEAD.

I just wish all the nitwits out there realized this.

Naturally they will not as they are for sure NITWITS.

Yeah, but I bet the sight of all those nukes flying through the sky then exploding on contact with earth will be astonishing to see just before I melt....

Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by SplitInfinity

 

No bombs need to be dropped in an economic,resource based war
Although why would China be building such a massive military,for fun? The USA's agenda in the oil rich ME is all but transparent since the GW1 and did you know that China is pursuing a global buying spree in which it is buying up mines, energy fields, natural resources,in fact China now actually owns all the mineral rights around the world!…and by doing so they essentially control it
Can't tell me there isn't a world conflict over money,and resources because there is..always has been,and it's just going to get worse..

edit on 1-9-2012 by all2human because: (no reason given)

I am well aware with China's drive to buy as much Oil Reserves as possible as well as Mineral Rights. You may think I am Crazy for saying this but I am cheering this on! It will FORCE the U.S. Government to allow Civilian Use of Ultra-High U.S. Military Developed Energy Generation Tech. as well as U.S. Military Super Conductive Material Tech. we have had it for DECADES! The Tech. that allows for an incredible amount of ENERGY CONSERVATION and SUPER CONDUCTIVITY than are necessary in the use of not only the Free Electron Laser but a whole new generation of Non-Nuclear Powered Solid State Laser Weapons that will replace 50 Cal mounted Guns on a Host of U.S. Military Vehicles would IMMEDIATELY solve our Energy Issues.

It is now time to rid ourselves of the Internal Combustion Engine. We have High Tech. Solar that is Decades in advance of anything out there but until we a FORCED to use this...it will stay buried. The Biggest Lie of all is when we buried Low Temp. Fusion. It worked and there has been no subsequent appropriations for Universities and Colleges. Whatever you may Dream we have the ability to do...the Reality is even greater. Split Infinity

And let me add

1: Money is not real, it's based on nothing therefore doesn't actually exist

2: You can't draw blood from a stone, many nations have walked on their debt and will again and there is nothing they can do about it if we chose that route

3: America is gifted in food and water, in the end going broke means little to us, it's like a guy who declares bk but is allowed to keep his house, ptttttthhh Can't get a credit card for x amount of time, you'll be fine

reply to post by SplitInfinity


Well you better get on with it before your country is completely controlled and owned by China..again without even dropping a bomb
love it if you would provide a link to this fantastic technology you keep saying will change the world and how it can realistically be done..

reply to post by penninja


i know all about fiat currency, money is not real tell that to the entire population of the globe that are enslaved to it..

Russia and China may well have been planning on invading the USA.

But then ATSers rumbled them.

I guarantee that there's no way it's going to happen now.

We saved the world again! Way to go ATSers!

reply to post by P12SOLD


Yeah an I'm sure russia had a better shot at afghan huh? I seriously have a laugh when people try to look down on us americans, though I totally understand, being on top your always gonna have people sneering.

Aside from what the media says an shows, understand this much, You never show your best, america's poker face is straight an alot of fools who believe america would lose fall for it, too easy! lol.
We own the air, the seas and the land. being the only military in the world with an active rotation of daily combat, we are understanding more an more about asymetric warfare and already with a firm grip on conventional warfare. Yes, we are indeed warmongers an we do what we do best. Plus an all volunteer military, we will prevail, all thoughout american history, we have read, wrote, sang, watched all media on the hero factor, we are mentally projected at being the Hero, the Cowboy, the clutch shot....if a grenade falls in the middle of a squad you can bet your sweet*** that one soldier will jump on it, American soldiers do not flee, He will always place the mission first, He will never accept defeat, He will never quit and most important of all...he will never leave his fallen comrade. We don't think small, we think large, we all are chiefs, we all are cowboys, we are all hero's. the american mentality pushes us to the extremes, thats the basis of our entertainment industry.
A war with China and Russia would be devastating for sure and would impact our society and shake the very foundations of earth itself. I would hope nothing that foolish will ever happen.
So go ahead P12SOLD, qoute our history, for we are here and now. I am a proud american citizen, a fighter, built for war, to defend, to never give up, to not accept defeat in the face of adversity, for aid, compassion, love, to push an here to stay.

No doubt the reason we did so well in Viet Nam against farmers, wives and children.

And under the circumstances I guess I should point out that was sarcasm.

reply to post by Arnie123


Go ahead and add slaughtering women and children to your list
of manly things,and include allowing your rights and freadoms to be
taken from you , the brave moral men that fought for it
are turning in there graves
What you call your biggest strengths are actualy your countries greatest weakness

Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by Arnie123

 

Go ahead and add slaughtering women and children to your list
of manly things,and include allowing your rights and freadoms to be
taken from you , the brave moral men that fought for it
are turning in there graves
What you call your biggest strengths is actaully your greatest weakness

Okay, with that being said I guess we are part of a VERY LONG LIST OF OTHER COUNTRIES AS WELL AND WE ARE NOT THE FIRST ON THAT LIST, such a hypocritical thing to say, smh

reply to post by Arnie123


No actually your government takes the cake as one of the darkest forces on
the planet..

Originally posted by Arnie123

Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by Arnie123

 

Go ahead and add slaughtering women and children to your list
of manly things,and include allowing your rights and freadoms to be
taken from you , the brave moral men that fought for it
are turning in there graves
What you call your biggest strengths is actually your greatest weakness

Okay, with that being said I guess we are part of a VERY LONG LIST OF OTHER COUNTRIES AS WELL AND WE ARE NOT THE FIRST ON THAT LIST, such a hypocritical thing to say, smh

but didn't you just get done saying we were the top warmongers who do it the best cause we get so much practice and essentially if you want everybody's lunch money, you gotta be the biggest bully.

This went from "can we win? HELL YEAH... War is our art"

To... "We're not REALLY the bad guys... it's totally understandable that we go around killing people. THEY'RE DOIN IT TOOO!"

So back to the subject at hand... Is the US about to get their ass handed to them?

Pep talks don't really answer the question. There's a lot of factors to look at. One is the very division of this country. Europe is the same. A lot of old world trouble stems from Europe but a lot of Europeans are just sick of it. Also, are we REALLY the most advanced? Another point, How many other countries are just chaffing at the bit to get a piece of this government? Yet again, how many IN the government are ready to cash in their chips and jump to another flags ship? And even still, Do we even understand what is going on behind the scenes, who made the deals and what the terms are? No. One American thinking that he's going to take on multiple huge powers that are infiltrating and that all of his neighbors are going to come out of their houses with their rifles and have his back is speaking for who?

The entire country? The entire military even? No.

I wouldn't waste time being a military evangelist.

Originally posted by all2human
reply to post by penninja

 

i know all about fiat currency, money is not real

tell that to the entire population of the globe that are enslaved to it..

Most slavery is to the self my friend.

It becomes apparent when whips are broken, out so they have gotten very good at hiding the reality.