50 police officers arrested in child porn raids

reply to post by AnAbsoluteCreation


Stolen credit cards have been the culprit of ruining lives. Just the accusation is enough to ruin a person.

Wonder how many of them are from other jobs and what type of offenses it was.

Worrying if the category 1 thing means they were actually predators rather than just people downloading things. Does the threat category go up because they are a police officer?

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


If you still have faith in the principle of government, then you are in bad shape. Our social and economic model is shifting and we need a total makeover if we are to succeed and live peacefully. We owe it to our children and their children.

There is no need for queens, kings, presidents or other self-proclaimed leaders.
There is no need for self-serving governments, which obviously serve a minority of masters and enslave the rest.
There is no need for religions that have been designed to oppose people.
There is no need for government secrecy. If anything, governments should be transparent.
There is no need for slavery and hunger. No need for diamonds and gold at the expense of thousands of lives.
There is no need for bankers who are in league with the governments and the elite.

There is a need for clean and free energy production. It is technologically possible.
There is also a need for peace and preservation of our beautiful planet. Also this is possible.
There is a need for a new economy, where people are no longer slaves, but can develop themselves socially and intellectually. Most importantly: freely. Let machines and computers do the work. Live free.


It can be done, but only through a collective effort, where money is no longer the incentive.

Originally posted by detachedindividual
reply to post by Screwed

 

You have a very warped view of society. There are not massive pedo clubs all over the world, there is a minuscule minority of society who are quite severely twisted in this way.

This is why I hate stories like this, it scares people into thinking the problem is gigantic. It makes people suspicious of everyone. It creates a society where the view of a person is distorted and twisted so much that neighbours suspect people of things they would never ever remotely be capable of.

As for the story itself, I lost trust in the police when I saw the figures for the number of deaths in custody. Or was it the time they were caught assaulting someone on video? Maybe it was when they killed that guy in the protest and then tried to cover it up. No, it was the time they were caught on film dragging a disabled man from his wheelchair. No, my mistake, it was the time they were caught selling information to the tabloids. Oh, wait, it was the time they were filmed riding on horseback into a crowd of protesters and beating students over the head.

Well, whichever one of those instances it was, it made me realize that the vast majority of police are simply organized criminals in their own special club where they all look out for each other and do whatever they need to do to assert their Mafia-like dominance over the population.

What crap! You list a few instances and now its the "vast majority" how disrespectful can you be?

Its like listing a few black people in gangs and saying the vast majority of black people are criminals, wtf is wrong with you?

YOU have a warped perspective. How many 100 000's of police officers in America alone take part in organized crime? The vast majority you say?

And the vast majority of muslims are terrorists probably?

ETA: thousands of children get trafficked to the superbowl every year to work as sex workers, does this mean that the vast majority of football lovers are pedos?

The fact of the matter is that pedophiles exist.
They always have and they always will.
If we put aside the horror of the abuse, and look at the logistics we might be able to actually help people before they act on their desires.
I am imagining a lot of those people who uploaded the child pornography probably did it as first time offenders and out of curiousity.
The worst offence most of them committed was providing an audience. Without an audience, there would be no reason to post these pictures. Why is there an audience? Because looking is taboo.

And then there is seperating the pre-pubescents from the teenagers. I think there are a lot of people out there looking for pictures of "young" but not "child-like"... hence the popularity of barely legal and "looks young" websites, where the adults pose like they are much younger.

We have to do something to prevent the 14-17 year old kids from being exploited because they are naive. But should we really be punishing someone looking at 4 year olds getting raped, the same way we punish nude photos of 16 year olds being shared by teens?

Are there other avenues that we can explore to help prevent people from hurting children, without driving the pedophiles from getting helped at the fear of being labelled (I'm not talking about those who actually hurt the kids, but those who feel like they want to, but haven't taken the step yet)

Can we provide judgementless therapy to those who admit they have urges? Can we give them cartoons to satisfy their urges to look? Can we lock them up with regular porn til it turns them on? I don't have all the answers, but whatever we are doing right now doesn't seem to be working.

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Out of 1300 people arrested 3.8% were police officers.

On ATS, a site where everything gets questioned, where the media is constantly scrutinised for biased report to fool the masses in support of "them".

Most of you get tricked into some articles like this one that is almost only taken seriously as the heading suggests 50 police officials are involved, but what about the other 96.2% people that was involved?

On a site like ATS where media is controlled by "them" its just so easy to trick you into chaos. Its nearly funny.

reply to post by HumanCondition


Except that the police made up less than 5% of those arrested, they were paying to access material being provided by some one else, oh and they were arrested. Those aren't exactly the hallmarks of organized crime.

Originally posted by deadeyedick
reply to post by detachedindividual

 

I suppose i also have a warped view.
You base your opinion on feelings but if you would look into depression a bit you would find staggering numbers of depressed people that have been abused as a child.

I remember watching a news show in the 1990s that reported 1 in 5 girls would be the victim of "inappropriate sexual contact" before they turned 18.That isn't all pedophilia, but it does point to an issue that needs addressing.

The disturbing thing is that American Association of University Women did a study and found that ten percent of students had experienced lewd comments, exposure to pornography, peeping in the locker room,sexual touching or grabbing, or other sexually inappropriate behavior. Nearly two thirds reported it being from a school employee or teacher. That comes out to 3 million students nationwide if the numbers hold consistent nationwide.

I wouldn't call it endemic, but I would call it a disturbing trend that should be addressed.

reply to post by Diluted

I am 28. I am attracted to teenage women.

Pedophilia is usualy defined as prepubescent children, 12 years and lower (and with kids maturing sooner than in the past, it should probably be even less nowadays).

Being attracted to teenage women is not abnormal, normal men are attracted to them (still, acting on it may be illegal).

Is there anyplace worth living in these days away from such hostile intentions?

Originally posted by Hopeforeveryone
A paedophile and a police man, combination like that's going to make prison time rather uncomfortable. Sickens me it's so often people in authority, if it's not priests then it's policemen, terrible.

No it wont, they get put in protection under a little prison law called "rule 45" or "43" (not too sure which number it is, but it's one of them) and they will get treated with kid gloves.... the system seems geared toward making this type of criminal comfortable, trust me, I know, I've spent time in UK prisons....

I personally helped to ban this organization from the web. For that I am proud.

Politicians were involved. Of course, they have the money, power and sick minds to sexually abuse children. The rest of us have to work for a living and such thoughts would never come to mind in a normal, healthy human being.

Originally posted by kykweer
reply to post by Corruption Exposed

 

Out of 1300 people arrested 3.8% were police officers.

On ATS, a site where everything gets questioned, where the media is constantly scrutinised for biased report to fool the masses in support of "them".

Most of you get tricked into some articles like this one that is almost only taken seriously as the heading suggests 50 police officials are involved, but what about the other 96.2% people that was involved?

On a site like ATS where media is controlled by "them" its just so easy to trick you into chaos. Its nearly funny.

I dont think it matters what percentage of officers where arrested vs. percentage of joe public they are custodians of the law, and as such are required to uphold the law, not to break it in such a disgusting and vile manner, hypocritical, dirty bastards!!! putting aside that they are contributing towards the people that distribute this stuff, and encouraging them to ruin children's innocence and cause them physical and phsychological damage for the rest of their lives, they are also putting themselves above the law, and no-one is above the law, and i wager that these officers that where charged are the type to try and use their station to intimidate people!! a poster above said he would reserve his judgement because of the old saying "innocent until proven guilty"....it's not like that anymore, when it comes to dealing with authorities anyway, I know this from personal experience, as I've had a lot of personal experience with the police and british justice system in the past(was'nt always an angel!) the way they look at you is GUILTY, GUILTY, GUILTY!!!! And when someone is dragged through court, sent to prison, then a few years later they find the real person that did the crime, you dont even get a sorry or by your leave, just "oh, you can go, wasnt you after all" but even then they still try to make you feel guilty about something, as they give you that "but we're gonna be watching you anyway" kind of attitude. Dont get me wrong, I'm not anti authority, the police are there to do a job and we do need them, but I cant stand hippocritical, corrupt police officers, especially since the ones that are corrupt are usually the ones that come down the hardest on other law-breakers.
Rant officially over....
PEACE!!!

Operation Ore has been going on a long time. I suspect that headlines like this are used to distract and create scapegoats. Everyone is disgusted that a few police officers may be involved but what about those higher up? Prime Minister Tony Blair allegedly ordered the press not to publish info on politicians involved in operation ORE.

Operation Ore is still being reported, but not in regard to government ministers, and it’s taking up very few column inches on the third or fourth page. Don’t forget that the intelligence services are involved here, and Blair is anxious to ensure that the scandal does not rock the boat at a time when the country is about to go to war.”

100 year secrecy orders were also placed on evidence in the Dunblane massacre ( 16 children shot), the evidence relating to certain 'Boys clubs' and politicians involved in them.

LETTERS between Labour and Tory ministers and correspondence relating to Thomas Hamilton’s alleged involvement with Freemasonry are part of a batch of more than 100 documents about the Dunblane mass murder which have been sealed from public sight for 100 years. The documents include a letter connected to Hamilton, which was sent by George Robertson, currently head of Nato, to Michael Forsyth, who was then Secretary of State for Scotland.
Until now it was thought that a 100-year public secrecy order had only been placed on one police report into Hamilton which allegedly named high-profile politicians and legal figures. However, a Sunday Herald investigation has uncovered that 106 documents, which were submitted to the Dunblane inquiry in 1996, were also placed under the 100-year rule. ................. Hamilton had allegedly abused a number of children prior to his 1996 gun attack on Dunblane primary school in which 16 primary one children and a teacher died before Hamilton turned his gun on himself.

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You know, for every one of these guys they catch, there's ten more that were smart enough to use Tor and protect their IP address from being directly tracked down. They're just catching the idiot tier internet child porn viewers, catching the real culprits that are into it deep is going to be a much harder shell to crack.

reply to post by DrHammondStoat


There was the whole boystown thing in the US too.

Imo rapist,sexual criminal, and killers show a very similar lack of basic empathy which allows said rapist to not be affected by the cries and screams of his victim, and allows said murderer to do heinous things without feeling......

Lack of Empathy = deadly human.