John Moore Nibiru updates - can you afford to ignore this?

reply to post by Phage

If it's reflected light it's not absorbed.

Are there heavenly bodies that just absorb light as opposed to reflecting it..

reply to post by SheopleNation


According to Google they have a stitching problem in connecting photos from the whole sky survey they use. Instead of bad stitching they simply left the areas without images, hence the black areas.

reply to post by PlanetXisHERE


YOU need to provide evidence that the "Exodus" happened....

Originally posted by EddyR3
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

YOU need to provide evidence that the "Exodus" happened....

You'll need to ask his psychiatrist for that info...

i asked this way back on 13..

no one ever answered so ill ask again

so we cant see nibiru because of infared spectrum right

why cant we see the three PLANETS that orbit it?

Originally posted by Xcalibur254
reply to post by phantomjack

 

You can do that with any length of time.

2000 years ago: Foundation of Christianity
4000 years ago: Foundation of Judaism
6000 years ago: Rise of civilization
8000 years ago: Volcanic landslide off Mt. Etna causes a megatsunami in the Mediterranean felt by three continents.

The world is an active place and things are constantly in flux. There is no need for a Death Star to explain these events. Besides, as Erik has pointed out numerous times now, the existence of Nibiru would cause a lot more than just an earthquake or some flooding. It would send the Earth out of the Sun's orbit on just one pass.

On top of that the question must be asked why the Chinese make no reference to this planet. The Chinese have a recorded history going back 4,000 years so they should have existed for at least one pass. So where are their historic documents describing another planet in the sky and mass devastation?

Engaging in intelligent conversation is why I am here on ATS. Respectful, intelligent, conversation.

Your point is well taken regarding the Chinese, even though I can not confirm that as a fact, as I have done little research on the Chinese over the years.

reply to post by goou111


they're even more made up....

reply to post by phantomjack

With all due respect, Phage, I wouldn't necessarily say IMPOSSIBLE.

Nibiru, the mythical planet described by Sitchin, is impossible. As has been pointed out and demonstrated.
Any such planet making a pass through the inner Solar System on a regular basis would hopelessly disrupt the orbits of the Planets.

I've been following Nibiru research and news since May of this year. My personal policy has been to question why no legitimate, credentialed astronomer or physicist (like Michio Kaku, for example) has come out and announced that the approach of the Nibiru is true, it is being tracked by astronomers, and everyone should prepare for disasters related directly to this incoming mini-solar system. Such an announcement would come out through public channels. Scientists do not make announcements on radio shows like the John Moore show. I respect the guy, but I don't take what he says as true fact because it is more like rumors and gossip from his contacts.

So far, I know of no respected and legitimate Ph.D astronomer in the workl saying that reports of incoming Nibiru are true.

However, I remain open-minded.

I haven't rushed out and spent a lot of money beefing up my survival supplies. Not yet. I'll have to see something in the mainstream news that looks very, very suspicious before I run out and get more fully stocked up. My budget is very tight and I can't afford to overreact like I did before the Y2K thing.

I do believe, however, that ancient cultures were referring to the same cosmic event as the basis for the Mayan and Aztec plumed serpent. red dragons in China, the well known Sumerian and Babylonian legends and the winged beetle symbol of ancient Egypt. I think it is all related to the same cosmic event thousands of years ago.

Whether we are going to get visited by the same thing in just a few days, weeks or months from now, I have no idea.

Will keep monitoring all world news events every day looking for a big hint that something big is about to happen.

Originally posted by orbitbaby
I will give it a listen if only because if he is telling the truth we will know soon enough.
3 weeks.
And if nothing happens then he just ruined his reputation (and probably made his
advertisers rich).

How do you prepare for something like Nibiru? How do you plan for something
when you have no idea what that something is? I don't think you can. I think
we will all have to just wait and see....and deal with whatever when the
time comes.

Very wise opinion!
But as for the prep. If you live on the coast like I do, I think the vacation suggestion is about all you could do to prepare. Stored food will be under water. With jobs scarce and owning a home people will not be able to up and move even if there were more time.

People who have the option of staying with friends or relatives around the appointed time in safe zones would be one option.

In my opinion if there were a huge incoming planet and arriving by 8/17 it should send us a bunch of trouble before arrival. We should be pummeled pretty good I would think besides the effects of the large object.

reply to post by phantomjack


You don't need to do a lot of research to know how long the Chinese have kept a written history.

I just googled Chinese History, clicked I feel lucky, and voila:

en.wikipedia.org...

Chinese civilization originated in various regional centers along both the Yellow River and the Yangtze River valleys in the Neolithic era, but the Yellow River is said to be the cradle of Chinese civilization. With thousands of years of continuous history, China is one of the world's oldest civilizations.[1] The written history of China can be found as early as the Shang Dynasty (c. 1700–1046 BC),[2] although ancient historical texts such as the Records of the Grand Historian (ca. 100 BC) and Bamboo Annals assert the existence of a Xia Dynasty before the Shang.[2][3] Much of Chinese culture, literature and philosophy further developed during the Zhou Dynasty (1045–256 BC).

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by phantomjack

 

With all due respect, Phage, I wouldn't necessarily say IMPOSSIBLE.

Nibiru, the mythical planet described by Sitchin, is impossible. As has been pointed out and demonstrated.
Any such planet making a pass through the inner Solar System on a regular basis would hopelessly disrupt the orbits of the Planets.

edit on 7/26/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Maybe they were disrupted time and time again and this is their new stable orbits until next time. Maybe that disruption ruined a few atmospheres and changed things each time around.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by phantomjack

 

I did this exercise myself last year. Run the 3600 year "event" cycle back through history. If there is anything to the Nibiru claim, you will be shocked to find that there is a pattern of historical / worldly events that occurs ever 3500 to 3600 years. Exodus was one of them. Go back further. 3600 years prior to Exodus was the "great flood" and prior to that? Keep going....find it. 3600 years before the flood? ATLANTIS.

Simply not true in any way.
1. Exodus has no known archaeological evidence. Exodus does not appear to be true at all.
2. What "great flood" are you referring to. There certainly has never been a global flood - ever.
3. Atlantis does not exist. You certainly cannot date something that does not exist.

There is no 3600 year cycle.

Again, I am referencing written scripts in the Bible. Yes, while in a prior post I did state that nothing in the bible is factual, it is still written record. We just can't prove one thing or another that is written in the text.

You can not claim that "Atlantis does not Exist" or that it never existed. Prove it. There are more ancient writings that reference it existing than those writings that don't. So how is it that its written about, yet doesn't exist in your mind?

I am talking about the flood and Noah. Again, I am not in any way suggesting that a GLOBAL flood occurred. However, there is enough written about it that suggested that "SOMETHING" may have happened.

And then my favorite. The Exodus. You must also then subscribe to the theory that the holocaust was not real either.

Originally posted by stereologist
reply to post by phantomjack

 

Yes. I will go there. Sitchin was wrong. Except, the Exodus did occur around 450BC.

How did you arrive at that date?

There are currently a number of competing theories on the composition of the four books Exodus-Leviticus-Numbers-Deuteronomy, and they can be grouped into three broad "models". The first, the documentary hypothesis, proposes that the four books (actually five - the models include Genesis) were originally four separate documents, treating the same subject (i.e. the Exodus) written at various times between the 9th and 6th centuries BC and combined about 450 BC. This theory dominated biblical scholarship from the late 19th century to the 1970s. The second, the "supplementary" model, had been popular before the documentary hypothesis dominated the field and has re-emerged since the 1970s. It holds that that there was a single original document which was then expanded by "supplements", again with the end product emerging around 450 BC. The third, the "fragmentary" model, proposes that the four books were combined by a single author from a host of "fragments", meaning small texts as well as oral traditions (sagas and folk-tales), again c.450 BC.

The most recent ideas on the origin of the five books place Deuteronomy in the late 7th century with a revised version in the 6th, and the other four books in the Persian period of the 5th century. It is generally agreed that the Exodus tradition behind the five books predates the narrative as told in Exodus, Numbers and Deuteronomy (since it also appears in the 8th century prophets), but there is no consensus on just what might lie behind the tradition.

SOURCE

reply to post by phantomjack

You can not claim that "Atlantis does not Exist" or that it never existed. Prove it. There are more ancient writings that reference it existing than those writings that don't.

There is exactly one "ancient" text. Plato's.

reply to post by phantomjack


No there's not.

en.wikipedia.org...

reply to post by Phage


...beat me too it...

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by PlanetXisHERE

 

People say you can see Jupiter, Saturn, Mars or Venus with the naked eye - why can't we see Nibiru/Planet X? Well, Nibiru gives off light in the infrared spectrum, like billion of other objects in our universe, and is almost impossible to see with the naked eye, especially coming at us from out of the Sun.

Jupiter only "gives off" light in infrared. So does Saturn, Mars, and Venus (as does the Earth for that matter). We can see them because they reflect the visible light of the Sun.

But Nibiru doesn't give off light in infrared, nor does it reflect the light of the Sun because Nibiru does not exist.

edit on 7/25/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

What would happen if you were to speculate and actually maybe go so far as "pretend" that a planet size object is heading this way. That maybe it is not bright but very hard to spot.

Now forget the previous written arguments for time periods and size...and name.

What could we expect? How close before we would notice effects. Would it make higher tides long before arrival? Would it cause disruptions or storms on the other planets in our system....what in as much detail as possible would it do?

reply to post by Char-Lee


No.

Go look at ancient Chinese star maps..

Originally posted by Phage
reply to post by phantomjack

 

With all due respect, Phage, I wouldn't necessarily say IMPOSSIBLE.

Nibiru, the mythical planet described by Sitchin, is impossible. As has been pointed out and demonstrated.
Any such planet making a pass through the inner Solar System on a regular basis would hopelessly disrupt the orbits of the Planets.

edit on 7/26/2012 by Phage because: (no reason given)

Yes, and I will say it, based on what we understand as current laws of physics.

Did you ever consider that there exists the extreme possibility that the laws defined by modern science may not be completely INCLUSIVE to what actually occurs outside of the realm of our existence?

Or, do you believe that the laws of physics are conclusive?