Report: Colorado shooting suspect sent plans notebook to psychiatrist

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=14620534#pid14620534

I believe like this article on the unabobmer, that Holmes was subjected to brutal psychological and chemical experiments, and I have since the beginning.

We will never know the truth.

The Colorado university was told to not answer question and the same thing happened with the unabomber.

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I agree. This whole thing reeks of psyops, MK Ultra, mindcontrol and ultimately social engineering and for what purpose. Way to many disconnects and questionable BS. This reminds me so much of the OKC bombing.

Originally posted by antonia
reply to post by adjensen

 

Either that or he was trying to get someone to stop him in a way.

Well, the only thing about that is that in the two most likely psychological cases, if he was psychotic, it wouldn't have occurred to him to prepare a package like that in his lucid moments, if he really wanted to get caught, he'd just turn himself in; and if he was psychopathic, there's nothing in him that saw what he was doing as being wrong, so he has no motivation to want to stop himself.

I could believe some nut went on a little spree.

But the more stuff comes up the more suspicious the whole thing looks.

The deal with the mothers statement, the deal with appearing totally oblivious in court, the timing, the location near Columbine, the affiliation with a crazy brain lab and a school known for running nutty psych experiments and involving CIA and MK folks, his father being some kind of neural scientist for DARPA, now they just figure while they're at the university checking out a benign package they'll look in the mail room and hey there it is!

It seems more staged everyday.

If it was just left at "nut blows some people away" it'd be far less suspicious.

Originally posted by djr33222
reply to post by antonia

 

A teacher he was close to..

But that would contradict them painting Holmes as a loner with no friends..

If they come out and say he had a close relationship with the teacher then a lot of questions will be coming the teachers way, questions he can't answer.

edit on 25-7-2012 by djr33222 because: (no reason given)

"Loner" doesn't mean no relationships. It tends to mean the person has a difficult time making and maintaining them. I would say "Friend" is a different relationship than "Teacher-student".

reply to post by adjensen


Sorry to but in...

I just want to say that,

Psychotic people also don't meticulously plan tactical operations.

reply to post by antonia


It doesn't matter.

If he has had any type of significant relationship that can be proved then the entire psychological profile they are painting about Holmes turns to rubble.

A significant relationship means a torrent of questions concerning a man we don't know will be aimed at whoever that relationship is. Either they put all their chips into one actor and pray he doesn't make a mistake, or they say he was a loner with no relationships and make up his story as they go along, to suit the needs at the moment.

reply to post by djr33222


I agree with you. And I'm also curious...is the University and/or the professor in any way liable for "just now" finding this package and information?

We're really good at finding information ex post facto here in America...warnings of theater attacks in May, plans to fly planes into buildings before 9/11...

Originally posted by djr33222

Psychotic people also don't meticulously plan tactical operations.

Psychotic people and their behaviors.

Are as varied as the stars in the sky.

Originally posted by djr33222
reply to post by adjensen

 

Sorry to but in...

I just want to say that,

Psychotic people also don't meticulously plan tactical operations.

Not if he was catatonic, no, but if he was schizophrenic, he certainly could have. However, as I noted in a different thread, the odds are far higher that Holmes is psychopathic, not psychotic.

How is this abnormal? I get a fair amount of mail, and sometimes I wait until Friday to open it. Sometimes a week goes by. I'm sure I'm not the only one that does this.

This is NOT abnormal. Maybe he was on vacation, or maybe he was knee deep into research, and didn't want to have any distractions.

My cousin has been released from the hospital by e way. I'm talking to her on Friday. All accounts say she remembers one shooter, was silent, and luckily got away with a minor wound.

Originally posted by thisguyrighthere
I could believe some nut went on a little spree.

But the more stuff comes up the more suspicious the whole thing looks.

The deal with the mothers statement, the deal with appearing totally oblivious in court, the timing, the location near Columbine, the affiliation with a crazy brain lab and a school known for running nutty psych experiments and involving CIA and MK folks, his father being some kind of neural scientist for DARPA, now they just figure while they're at the university checking out a benign package they'll look in the mail room and hey there it is!

It seems more staged everyday.

If it was just left at "nut blows some people away" it'd be far less suspicious.

Don't forget the drill held the same day about a person shooting in a movie theater.
www.denverpost.com...
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reply to post by OrphenFire

There were so many people in the theater, he didn't rely on accuracy. He fired into a crowded room

if you really believe what you said above, you might want to review This ... www.abovetopsecret.com...
(it's a cbs story so i have my doubts but that hasn't changed since day 1)

anyway, the witness goes on to say how the gunman was commanding the attendees (shouting) and specifically targeting some (which doesn't surpise me considering the connections to cybercommand that have been since shown)

Originally posted by djr33222
reply to post by antonia

 

A teacher he was close to..

But that would contradict them painting Holmes as a loner with no friends..

If they come out and say he had a close relationship with the teacher then a lot of questions will be coming the teachers way, questions he can't answer.

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Good point. He supposedly had no friends. This was also a professor at the school and if there's some connection to Holme's biomarkers research it smells fishy that the professor received the notebook. Why wasn't it send to his family?

I am skeptical that it's Holmes' notebook but I wonder what's in it. Sirhan Sirhan had some crazy trance-like writing in his saying 'must kill RFK' over and over again. Definitely mind-controlled.

Originally posted by adjensen

Originally posted by OrphenFire
My wife saw this story a bit ago. My first question was, "And he didn't say anything?!" (referring to the psychiatrist). Something doesn't seem right... It remained unopened?

Well, it's summer, and a lot of university staff are just gone a lot during the summer.

Something seems excessively off about that story, though -- why would he have detailed out everything, signed his name to it and then put it in the post a week ahead of his attack? Logic would dictate that he'd be arrested before he could do anything, which makes no sense, so maybe "a week" means that he put it in the post last Thursday, just before the attack, and it sat unopened since then.

You might be right, but to be honest, what about this makes ANY sense? Look at that guys face/stare/hair in the courtroom. There is a chance he is indeed as crazy as he looks..and then sending this off a week ahead would not be that surprising either.

People I know this is a conspiray theory website, but for the love of god it clearly has nothing to do with "mind control" and "brainwashing" and everything to do with a very disturbed and possibly mentally ill person deciding to go on a rampage.

Not EVERYTHING has to be a conspiracy.

He may have sent the letter in the hopes of being stopped or whatever. Is it really that strange that during the summer holidays a letter took a week to get opened?

America gets these things almost anually this one has just been more severe.

Yup that makes sense, one of their M'Kultra specialists. Many psychiatrists are black ops.

reply to post by SaltireWarrior



Which summer holidays are you referring to? The one that was 4 weeks ago? The US postal service runs 24/7, minus Sundays. I can send a letter from here, in Massachusetts, to an address in Alaska, and with a .34 cent stamp on it, it will reach Alaska in 3 days. Try harder next time.

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reply to post by SaltireWarrior


This is ATS (cue Spartan theme). Looking at the conspiratorial side of things is what we do. If the "brainwashed CIA puppet" theory was not brought up that would be a problem.

Perhaps we should talk about the shooters excellent gardening skills? Please, tell me what we should talk about?