False Flag Alert in Aurora : Biggest Mass Shooting in the History of the USA is not a coincidence

reply to post by PrimePorkchop
an accident, you say ?? hmmm, mind if i ask which kind?
would that be like a drunk chooses to drive and kills a family crossing the street ... or ... the kind like you fell out of a tree and broke your neck ??

to me, it does make a difference.
if you're comparing this to the premeditation of the drunk, i'd agree.
any other "accident" ... nah, can't agree with that.

reply to post by PrimePorkchop


I think you'll find with most false flags, almost no one who responds to the scene has any advanced knowledge. That's kinda the point. It would be ludicrous to think that hundreds of police officers are "in the know" about this. We're talking about a small cell group here, a couple people probably that orchestrated and funded this under the order of a large corporation(one with gun control lobbyists, cultist ideals and UN ties), with the backing of a few DoD/DHS/FBI higher ups giving the green light. We're talking about things with probable security clearances way above President.

LucisTrust.org rings to mind.

Originally posted by fleabit

All your posts really do, is point out how very wrong almost all of you are, almost all the time.

Well, that's really not all they do. They evidently cause people like you to get your underwear in a knot.

reply to post by Shadow Herder

God dammit, when they said large arsenal they meant what he was carrying was quite a bit for one man to carry.

What arsenal was that .....

Semi auto rifle, shotgun, 2 handguns

Hell I have more than that in my closet......

Thats why slings/holsters were invented for to hold weapons so hands are free

Handguns tucked in waistband or holster, shotgun slung over shoulder, rifle in hands

No problem to carry

They are getting much better at their false flags. This one is Grade A quality compared to something like JFK. But there are certainly loose ends, such as the accomplice mentioned by more than one eyewitness. The fact that a tear gas canister was thrown out from the opposite side of where the shooter was. They're getting much better at this, but they still can't do it without some sort of trace left behind.

reply to post by thedman

The shooter, Holmes, bought a ticket, he sat in the front row of the theatre. He was seen by numerous people

yet, not one person has confirmed this publicly ... not ONE.
when did he buy his ticket ??
the show was sold-out ... surely he bought it in advance ... so, where's the transaction receipt ? [credit card, paypal, ticket STUB ??]

Afterwards survivors and theatre employees were able to ID him

really ?? did they ID him as a patron or shooter ??
and if you say shooter, then who saw him change into the attacker(s) attire ??
so, did they ID him by name or general description?
who could have possibly been sure (without a doubt) that Holmes was both, patron and shooter ??
why are the witness statements about 2 assailants being withheld and ignored by msm ??
why are the PD officers who tracked a second assailant to the Mall, discontinuing further search ??

Reads as run of the mill nut case - in this case probably more intelligent than usual whack job

you're entitled to your opinion, just know that a majority of ppl posting would disagree.

This was planned for months in advance - guy probably went to that theatre for several months marking out enterences. Parked car near the exit used to enter back inside

ah yes, the single car in the back lot ... nothing curious about that at all, eh ??

Originally posted by Yosemite Sam

Originally posted by zackforester
reply to post by Yosemite Sam

 

101 witnesses saw at least 3 shooters. Some reported upwards of 8.

whatreallyhappened.com...

edit on 20-7-2012 by zackforester because: (no reason given)

3 to 8 shooters.....lol

You need a psychiatrist dude.

101 ear and eye witness reports not enough? .... lol

You need a psychiatrist dude, and maybe a week or two off the TV.

Originally posted by EffTheCIA
They are getting much better at their false flags. This one is Grade A quality compared to something like JFK. But there are certainly loose ends, such as the accomplice mentioned by more than one eyewitness. The fact that a tear gas canister was thrown out from the opposite side of where the shooter was. They're getting much better at this, but they still can't do it without some sort of trace left behind.

I disagree. Infact I might even go so far as to say that this one was deliberately screwed up to bring down society in some way. JFK was a nice neat package that no one really questioned until years later, and anyone that did question it was ridiculed into the dunce chair. The alternate theories never really became widely accepted, to this day.

This event, however, has been over for approximately 48 hours at the time of this post, and as far as I can tell judging from comments around the world, roughly half the people who spent more than 2 minutes reading about it can find glaring holes that don't line up with the social "norm" of what happens when you have a psychotic break.
People I know that would never even think to use the phrase "mind control" are suddenly asking, "wtf?"

We have the mind numbingly arrogant leftists screaming for gun control, we have the overly ignorant right screaming back that gun control doesn't stop criminals(which is true), and in the middle, everyone else is looking at the events and asking one simple question. Motive. Find me a case of a huge mass murder like this that doesn't have any clear motive, at all. Can't do it.

So... how tightly wrapped is this whole debacle, really?

www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=14590600#pid14590600

This thread goes into some detail and examines the idea of multiple shooters or assailants.

1:35: Shooter wearing green camp pants
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1:55: New evidence for shooters. That's plural. Theater 8, the shooter was seated. One more was outside, went into Theater 9. Coordinated attack. Two shooters. Open door discovered at mall. Suspicion of bomb in there.
1:56: One shooter at large, one in custody.
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2:06: Secondary explosive device found in front of theater
5:26: /u/Deus_Viator: Two eyewitnesses on 9News say that 2 gas canisters were thrown from separate locations in the theater.

Originally posted by Morpheas

Originally posted by MidnightToker
To the OP - can you clearly explain what the "false flag" is in this situation? For example, proponents of the idea that a false flag alien invasion takes place at the Olympics often suggest that it will be a hologram -- i.e. "false". Are you suggesting that the shooting didn't happen? Please write in a clearer and more coherent manner if you expect people to read your crazy rants.

You obviously don't know what a false flag is.

No, MidnightToker knows full well what a 'false flag is'.

This poster is clearly into NLP...Neuro Linguistics, a tactical method of psychological manipulation, as was inflicted on this 'perpetrator', for sure.

Please don't get taken in by this mind twisting troll, who'd definitely not like you, or your friends, to think this was a false flag 'Spectacular' orchestrated by the government's smoke & mirrors department....It was.

Ben81 ... thought you might find some of this info interesting as well ... www.abovetopsecret.com...

Despite a Eye witness saying this, it's totally arbitrary and not being reported at all?
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Again, he states that "Gas Canisters came from the other side of the theater." When you add his story, with the story of someone opening the door after receiving a phone call and letting the masked shooter in, then there is NO LONE WOLF.
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They aren't touching the subject, because calling it a false report, is BS considering Eye witnesses reported in ON LIFE TV while being interviewed.

there is more and a vid i cannot view but i thought you might find some pertinent details that others seem to dismiss toooo easily.

The victims of this heinous attack have my condolences. It's hard to watch the news reports detailing the incident. People of all ages were harmed-- even children and babies. It's saddening and frightening.

This having been said, there seems to me something off about the entire ordeal. Like many others, I'm a little reticent to start throwing around the words "false flag"-- it does seem a little tasteless in light of the tragedy. However, a crime has been committed and it's the job of rational minds to sort out this chaos.

I think it strange that an intelligent young man with supposedly no predisposition to violence would commit such acts out of the blue. Although most of the weapons and equipment used could be had for less than many posters are alleging (especially if he bought some of it second hand), it's still odd that, as an unemployed student he could afford to amass this small arsenal in such a short time.

Furthermore, because he was decked out in gear, no one saw the alleged killer's face. For all we know, it was someone completely different in that suit. The problem is, he was hauled away quickly by the police. We may never know if, in fact, it was Holmes who donned the body armor and did the shooting.

So, in summary, a young, shy, supposedly non-violent and unemployed PHD student decided one day to amass a small arsenal and shoot up a movie theater during the midnight premiere of an extremely popular movie. Oh, and he rigged his apartment full of explosives, too. Really sophisticated ones. So he's not just a PHD student and a heartless killer, but he's also a genius bomb-maker. Instead of letting the body count grow in true maniac fashion though, he decided to surrender quietly to the cops and also tipped them off about the explosives he'd rigged up at home. Oh. And no one saw or heard the guy during the attack, either. And all of this just so happened to occur about a week before the president was set to sign that UN small arms treaty-- something that might have otherwise seemed unreasonable to a large percentage of the population.

Sounds legit.

Once more, I think what happened is a terrible tragedy. Whether this was some sort of false flag or simply a random, murderous rampage, well, I don't know that there's enough evidence to say with any certainty. However, looking at things objectively, I think it's quite clear that something is awry.

Originally posted by Honor93
Ben81 ... thought you might find some of this info interesting as well ... www.abovetopsecret.com...

Despite a Eye witness saying this, it's totally arbitrary and not being reported at all?
-- snip --
Again, he states that "Gas Canisters came from the other side of the theater." When you add his story, with the story of someone opening the door after receiving a phone call and letting the masked shooter in, then there is NO LONE WOLF.
-- snip --
They aren't touching the subject, because calling it a false report, is BS considering Eye witnesses reported in ON LIFE TV while being interviewed.

there is more and a vid i cannot view but i thought you might find some pertinent details that others seem to dismiss toooo easily.

It would be no feat to easily toss a smoke canister clear across the theater, high, bounce of the opposite wall have it land, roll and pop in the direction of the tosser. Just sayin.

Originally posted by pauljs75
Some things seem rather odd about this, particularly with the timing regarding some agenda involving small arms. It's almost too convenient. Which is why we're discussing this on a conspiracy website...

I'm curious about whether any people the shooter knew thought something odd was up. Not necessarily from him, but like suspicion of being tailed or shadowed. Whether or not they'd talk though is another question too. (Particularly if they noticed what might be a threat, or even confronted and told to stay quiet about it lest the worst happens to them anyways.)

A group doing an operation might not be able to blackmail or directly threaten a person into doing something, but sometimes I wonder how many people would play the roll of patsy if somebody they cared about was placed under threat of harm. If a person is observed and profiled long enough such that it was known they wouldn't trade their friends and family's safety for that of strangers, they may make an easy mark. In such a case, even somebody like a grandma could be set up to "go ballistic" when provided with easy means and given the call.

Things that make ya go hmmm?

I keep wondering why Holmes' mother so readily implicated her son, as to say ..."Yes, he's the one"?
And why his father so readily got 'escorted' by the police to take him to his son in Colorado...

Were they all manipulated by NLP and MKUltra?

More things that make ya go Hmmm!

Originally posted by PrimePorkchop
Yes, it's possible that hundreds of police officers and federal agents are all in on one big conspiracy to get a kid into a theater to kill innocent people, then cover it up for unknown reasons

Invalid argument.

Nobody said that every single police officer and agent was in on it. Only those at the top would know what really happened. If they all knew, that would increase the chances of somebody blowing the whistle. If you were at the top of one of these organizations, would you go telling all the little pawn police officers at the bottom rung of the ladder everything?

This thread goes into some detail and examines the idea of multiple shooters or assailants.

reply to post by mr-lizard


Local LEOs are now indeed looking for a second shooter. That thread has details Also Daily Kos

I don't think Satanic, but definitely dark. Also, I don't know if this has been said but it wasn't just a loud scene in the dark, it was a shooting sequence. Almost like someone had already seen the film? I suppose he could have left, propped open the door, then waited...it just was all so well thought out.

I hate how it did not take long for the thought of some ulterior motive by something bigger than 1 man took to kick in... it's soo horrible, such a heinus and completely SENSELESS crime. that's why I looked deeper very quickly anyway even through the vibes of light and prayer I was sending to Aurora . because WHAT was the motive????? There's kind of a reason a killing like this hasn't happened before...not many people want to hand their life over by cowardly shooting people with their guards let down and senses dulled. the sick mass murderers want to be "admired"

Regardless they're using it to promote some gun control propaganda and laws eroding our constitutional rights as we speak I'm sure

I just thought of something regarding the weird exchange with alleged killer's mother:
Isn't it possible that this news person/people described Holmes and the mother simply confirmed that they "have the right person" (paraphrased)? And it's just distorted to seem as if she is implicating her son?

Also... reports I've read (and most are pretty useless as far as delivering actual "news", but valuable in terms of broadcasting an agenda), have stated that Holmes was just "waiting" by his car with a small arsenal and his gas mask. Why then am I seeing pictures of the "crime scene", defined by the lone gas mask on the ground? Wouldn't the police have confiscated it at the time to include as evidence rather than leaving it there? It's an honest question... Perhaps someone who is familiar with procedure can clarify this for me.

The news reports are utterly useless, and some of them even wander into the realm of horrible reporting. Why isn't the general public noticing this? Too wrapped up in the emotional triggers?

Originally posted by Shadow Herder

Originally posted by Honor93
Ben81 ... thought you might find some of this info interesting as well ... www.abovetopsecret.com...

Despite a Eye witness saying this, it's totally arbitrary and not being reported at all?
-- snip --
Again, he states that "Gas Canisters came from the other side of the theater." When you add his story, with the story of someone opening the door after receiving a phone call and letting the masked shooter in, then there is NO LONE WOLF.
-- snip --
They aren't touching the subject, because calling it a false report, is BS considering Eye witnesses reported in ON LIFE TV while being interviewed.

there is more and a vid i cannot view but i thought you might find some pertinent details that others seem to dismiss toooo easily.

It would be no feat to easily toss a smoke canister clear across the theater, high, bounce of the opposite wall have it land, roll and pop in the direction of the tosser. Just sayin.

edit on 21-7-2012 by Shadow Herder because: (no reason given)

hmmmm, would this be deflection ??
sure, maybe noone noticed a projectile as you describe
(unlikely but possible)

however, they (patrons) DID NOTICE more than one person of interest, a person at the door waving another inside and the mysterious phone call.

so, given all of the above, let's focus on the direction of the smoke bombs that haven't even been identified yet [not in number, style, brand or manufacturer]

New Suspect in Batman Colorado Massacre ---> Government

Our so called government has admitted to carrying out the murder of thousands of people in covert false flag operations. They are the number one suspect.

Our Government is the Number One Suspect