Mass shooting in Aurora, CO (At Batman Film Premiere)

Originally posted by petrus4

Originally posted by Infi8nity
I remember listening to a interview of a mind control victim that said she was turned into a robot at the university of denver. A manchurian candidate.

That's exactly what I think we've got here. The spooks set up the booby trapped apartment. They either plant the comments on the online forum, or let the patsy do it himself if he was far enough gone; and then on the big night, he gets his post-hypnotic trigger, possibly with augmentation. Walks slowly and silently through the theatre like a zombie, randomly firing shots.

Also the reason why he so placidly hands himself in to the cops; precisely because he only just woke up out of a trance a few moments earlier, and has absolutely no memory of what happened.

Game, set, and match.

edit on 20-7-2012 by petrus4 because: (no reason given)

He was a neuroscienentist

It seems like every thing matches perfectly. Maybe a university professor got a hold of him.

Its almost hard to believe that people actually have the audacity to sit behind their keyboards and claim this as a staged event with faked deaths. Those choosing to do this need to make a swift exit from this thread, and hopefully this site in general. You are quite possibly the lowest form of scum-sucking, bottom-feeding life currently existing on this planet, aside from the shooter, of course.

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thanks for the observation keep us posted

Originally posted by ragster
How did he even get into the theatre in full tactical gear?

He bought a ticket and went into the theater. At some point he left the movie and propped open the door (the one immediately next to the screen). He then went to his car where he suited up and then made the VERY short walk from the car back into the theater.

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Just the costumes in a theater... Can't wear masks in a bank or convenient store
its a private owned business they can ban whatever the hell they want

That doesn't seem like a very sound business decision. I've dressed up for a movie many times. This was the opening night, midnight screening of a huge release. Banning costumes would have killed the whole vibe. How many previous massacres have occurred at movie theatres on opening nights? Do we really get rid of the whole tradition based upon 1 incident? That is a terrible precedent! So, costumes, then what next? Whatever the next massacre can be pinned on, and then the next, and then the next, until we're all in padded rooms eating our bland, pureed meals through straws for ultimate safety.

I'm seriously considering going to see a movie tonight out of pure spite. I refuse to be scared and molly-coddled. I don't want extra protection, I want extra liberty.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by kosmicjack
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IMHO, the member asked a good question. How did the victim's brother have time 1.) get notified in the chaos 2.) arrange flight to CO 3.) give on scene interviews and 4.) establish a memorial blog?

Nothing wrong with asking questions.

That's a really good series of questions.

Usually questions will glean us more information and understanding than mere statements will.
That is why I am a huge fan of the inquisitive approach.

Thanks,

And here is what I was looking for. The "brother's" interview.

www.9news.com...

Watch it and then tell me he is not acting..... bad acting at that.

Also, remember - he made this interview BEFORE they knew for sure she was dead.

Originally posted by flashtrum

Originally posted by Philly2012

Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by MauiStacey
I am a resident of Columbine in Littleton, CO. I call a staged event with this shooting.

I watched her "brother" on channel 9 news and he seemed to be acting.

Look at this blog he supposedly made.

www.jordanghawi.com...

How on Earth did a grieving man have time to fly from San Antonio to Denver, go to the crime scene and be on the Channel 9 News AND write a blog about his sister?

I think this whole thing is staged in order to instill more fear in us. Next we will have to go through metal detectors and a pat down to go to a flippin' movie.

You're entirely wrong .. a friend of mine's cousin was wounded in this attack, and her boyfriend killed.. this is not a staged event.

If I may, perhaps your friends cousin was indeed there and indeed wounded, the thing is... Holmes could have been shooting to wound and the 12 dead could be fake I.e. plants, yet through the chaos of the whole scene, the authorities staged the deaths. Real event, just designed to be a mass wounding spree colored as a killing spree, achieves same effect but saves lives but still is portrayed as real.

You should be flagged for silliness. Not EVERY BAD THING THAT HAPPENS IS A CONSPIRACY. Plants, sleepers, agents, blah blah blah. I know it's hard to face reality at times for all of us - but the fact is we don't have a great understanding of the human mind. This guy apparently started to snap at least a month ago when he dropped out of school.

What's the motive behind your so-called conspiracy? Just because this only happened 12 hours ago doesn't "leave EVERYTHING up for debate". It only means we have some preliminary information. This is right up there with "the 10 thousand 9/11 witnesses were paid actors". I'm sure the SAG union wishes they had another 10 thousand people to collect dues from.

Why are you so defensive ? This things juicier than a porterhouse.

Originally posted by flyswatter
Its almost hard to believe that people actually have the audacity to sit behind their keyboards and claim this as a staged event with faked deaths. Those choosing to do this need to make a swift exit from this thread, and hopefully this site in general. You are quite possibly the lowest form of scum-sucking, bottom-feeding life currently existing on this planet, aside from the shooter, of course.

That is exactly the type of near psychopathic over-reaction I'm referring to.
We need to examine this psychology so that we can determine why people go overboard this hard core.

Have nothing to do with the incident, but feels like demonizing everyone who dares have an opinion different than their own. Then suggests everyone who disagrees leave the website, as if they owned it.

It's an amazing series of events, and I admit I am sort of baffled how people can be so easily emotionally manipulated into going against everything they believe in. (Because I assume you have claimed to support free speech before, which you are clearly going against right now by demanding censorship and attempting to use ridicule to make others socially fearful of stating the specific claim you so abhor).

Originally posted by flyswatter
Its almost hard to believe that people actually have the audacity to sit behind their keyboards and claim this as a staged event with faked deaths. Those choosing to do this need to make a swift exit from this thread, and hopefully this site in general. You are quite possibly the lowest form of scum-sucking, bottom-feeding life currently existing on this planet, aside from the shooter, of course.

Oh, the deaths were very real. When I heard about the baby that was shot I cried. The reason for this however remains to be seen. It was senseless, but I also think it was planned. I'm on a conspiracy forum therefore, my conspiracy meter went off the charts as soon as I heard about this. And what else is creepy? The fact that some political talk radio shows were comparing political issues and people in DC to Dark knight rises story line and characters all before this tragedy hit last night. So yeah, something not right there.

For those of you mocking the MKUltra angle, this is a conspiracy site. LoL! Oh and it's not even a conspiracy - it's real. I'm not saying I buy it for this event but it's not out of bounds for those who wish to explore that angle - in another thread.

Originally posted by flyswatter
Its almost hard to believe that people actually have the audacity to sit behind their keyboards and claim this as a staged event with faked deaths. Those choosing to do this need to make a swift exit from this thread, and hopefully this site in general. You are quite possibly the lowest form of scum-sucking, bottom-feeding life currently existing on this planet, aside from the shooter, of course.

This is a staged event with REAL deaths.


Totally staged event, however. The idea is to push anti-constitutional values in light of the upcoming UN Gun Treaty. This was also the main purpose behind Fast and Furious[the gunrunning scandal, not the movie] and the New Zealand shootings and the Senator Shooting [Gabriel Giffords] and George Zimmerman.

It couldn't be more evident with the government openly saying constitutionalists are considered terrorists etc.

Just look at how many people get shot to death everyday and cross examine that with the ones that become national stories.

What makes the ones that become national, national? Oh right, they are the ones staged by the government for an ulterior motive.

You might label these conspiracy theories, but they aren't. They are Conspiracy facts.

We know ATF really shipped guns to mexico to blame it on our constitution. That got REAL people killed and was carried out by the government.

This is NOT a theory, this is a fact. So why do people jump so fast to the "It's not a staged event" rhetoric? They've done it before and got caught... and the timing is about perfect and the story doesn't make sense.

Every press release is contradictory, did he kick the unkickable door in, did a girl open it for him, did he prop it open himself, did he have an Assault Rifle and Pistol or a Shotgun and AR-15? Did he have bombs or just tear gas, did he have a riot mask or a gas mask, did he have full body armor or just a vest, did his mom expect it or was she shocked... then you have to ask why would a kid who was only a month or two from his PHD so vengeful that he would essentially ruin his life? Then ask yourself..... where did he get the weapons and vest, then ask yourself since he shot scores of people and murdered in cold blood 12, why did he resistance free surrender to the police and comply?

None of the story makes a lick of sense. Do you know what stories DON'T make a lick of sense? Government ones.

Treyvon Martin
9/11
Gulf of Tonkin
Fast and Furious
Oklahoma City
Watergate
Obama's Birth Cert
The government denial of E.T.
JFK/LHO/Jack Ruby
The war in Iraq
The search for WMD's
The war in Libya
The precipice of war with Iran
Fort Hood



None of these game changing world affecting events have EVER had a story that wasn't RIDDLED with holes and contradictions and misinformation and disinformation and propaganda.


The list goes on and on and on. Anything the government is involved with is TANGLED in contradictions by OFFICIAL statements and the OS never makes a lick of sense.

Are people THIS F'n STUNAD?

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And every body is always worried about the muslims...lol.

its sick what theses kind of people do.

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I completely agree. I managed movie theaters for many many years with AMC (and other companies) and I seriously doubt they will ban costumes. I can understand being more strict with items that cover the face, but that's a policy most exhibition companies have always had. Would definitely hurt midnight revenue if they turned away everybody wearing a robe and carrying a wand.

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Very sick and an excellent example of the disease affecting our country.

colorado and nobody with a concealed carry permit in the whole theater to even pull off a shot at the weapon or hands? pro gun/ anti gun i know what i am/ aren't into if there was somebody with a concealed weapons permit and carrying, this could have been a shootout. and what if it was an mk ultra? heard it too many times? okay fine except this has happened before. i encourage more people to get concealed carry permits and will most likely get one in my state because of situations like aurora. something like that happens i know i will be able to defend myself. one weapons shot and boom the gun don't work anymore giving ample time to get on top of that guy and stomp his guts in. seriously don't fuk around

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Alright buddy, I'm not being a thread "nazi". I'm trying to get the facts. You present all this data as if you were an expert on body armor. Provide me with some evidence that there is no such that as bullet proof body armor for neck , groin and other extremities and I'll throw you a bone. You're using the situation as a platform for your pro-gun stances. Which is fine, but a moderator already made it clear that this thread is not for that purpose. Make a new thread if you want to rant about how badass you could have been in the same situation with your striker fired single action Glock. Please show me where your post added to the discussion in a constructive manner other than saying you think it could have been handled better by the people in the theater.. Which by the way isn't an original statement. Several people have said the same exact thing.

Just for you though.. HERE is a story about two fully armored men who took on an entire police force and SWAT units on for a good while. Over 2,000 rounds were fired before these two were finally taken down. Granted they may have been more heavily armored, they survived a 2,000 round gunfight against SEVERAL trained and professional shooters who were trained for that exact situation...

Fantasize all you want about your epic shooting skills. But get the facts about the event down first before you start barking information that people might mistake as facts.

With all of the random firearm incidence in CO since Obama took office, I can't help but wonder if big brother is trying to disarm CO. This makes sense because of the Cheyenne mountain complex may be the place for the President to go to ground in the event of a SHTF scenario. This stuff seems far too convinient for it to be genuine.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by flyswatter
Its almost hard to believe that people actually have the audacity to sit behind their keyboards and claim this as a staged event with faked deaths. Those choosing to do this need to make a swift exit from this thread, and hopefully this site in general. You are quite possibly the lowest form of scum-sucking, bottom-feeding life currently existing on this planet, aside from the shooter, of course.

That is exactly the type of near psychopathic over-reaction I'm referring to.
We need to examine this psychology so that we can determine why people go overboard this hard core.

Have nothing to do with the incident, but feels like demonizing everyone who dares have an opinion different than their own. Then suggests everyone who disagrees leave the website, as if they owned it.

It's an amazing series of events, and I admit I am sort of baffled how people can be so easily emotionally manipulated into going against everything they believe in. (Because I assume you have claimed to support free speech before, which you are clearly going against right now by demanding censorship and attempting to use ridicule to make others socially fearful of stating the specific claim you so abhor).

Having an opinion of why this happened, or what is responsible, or WHO is responsible, is just fine. I may not agree with the opinions, but they're gonna be there. But a staged event with fake deaths? Thats not even remotely funny in my opinion.

A close friend of mine's son lives 3 miles from there...he and his wife were planed on going to that showing...he could not get a baby sitter for there one year old...Thank God!

Originally posted by lacrimaererum

Originally posted by ElohimJD

Originally posted by lacrimaererum
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a goddam 3 year old infant into a movie theatre with flashing lights and noise loud enough to make ur ears bleed.

you perfectly show how stupid american society has become with an illogical defense of having a newborn baby only 90days in an environment like this.

united states of idiots

I would tend to agree with you....and then some wonder why this type of thing happens in the first place. Stupidity takes place on all parts in this case of those involved.

Also, apparently the suspect thought he was the joker from the second movie....so who do we blame? Guns? or Batman? I would have to say batman as that was his motivation......Im not kidding.