Mass shooting in Aurora, CO (At Batman Film Premiere)

Originally posted by gavlar1974
I think all of us have evil thoughts ...going through with them and taking innocent peoples lives is very different.And may be an evil thought is just a bad thought like is he/she gonna get the next beer/drink in!!Not slaughter or mass murder.Sickening i have spoken about this today to few work mates and every one,thinks it stinks..

I agree .. everyone is capable of having evil or inappropriate thoughts, it happens.. but most all of us have a very distinct ability to keep our thoughts in our head and not act on them.. some people lack that ability.. or just get pushed too far beyond the brink.

Originally posted by senselessness
reply to post by ManBehindTheMask

 

Wow, get a grip. The FBI agent was discussing the type of bomb tear gas he might have used, and they were going through all the options. The most likely thing was that he made his own pipe bomb, and just used mace canisters. The exact weapons are not known, but it is known that explosives were used.

So kindly, get off my ass. I have been following this more than anyone here since it started and you new people barge in and try to tell me how things went...

I need to get a grip? Youre the one speculating and telling everyone else they are wrong, even AFTER we know that YOUR reports come from a SCANNER , and not from post incident reports that INCLUDE inspection of bodies and hospital reports.......

YOURE the one who needs to get a grip......

This is an open thread and we can feel free to BARGE in anywhere we want , because its an open forum, and we can also call out people who are insulting everyone else for evaluating reports and taking into account THE PROCESS OF INVESTIGATION........

Which clearly you dismiss all together, because your SCANNER told you something or you assume more than what is being made public........

Yet you have NO problem in using these speculations (by sources none the less, that you dismiss, as not being accurate) to prop up your own theory as to the fact that these people wre not SHOT, but infact just suffering shrapnel wounds........

With all due respect sir, your methods are rude, and belittling to anyone on this thread who is tracking this thing.....

You are not the end all be all........

From the beginning of this topic there were three ATS members who were all making jokes about this mass murder, and they were making meme joke images with a meme image generator, which were were taken down by moderators. The member "SilentKoala", "Kastogere", and "IpsissimusMagus" were the ones making the meme images. I wouldn't be surprised if one of them made the 9gag rumor / image. They were disrespectful and disgusting human beings in the beginning of this topic.

Here you are jumping to the conlusion that just because a member here has bad taste, they MUST be the culprit in the fake web page........

And were suppose to trust your judgement?

Originally posted by miniatus


You're entirely wrong .. a friend of mine's cousin was wounded in this attack, and her boyfriend killed.. this is not a staged event.

So if it WAS a staged event, that means no one would have been hurt?
That's nonsense.

The bullets weren't fake, obviously.
Anything else beyond that is up for speculation...

reply to post by muzzleflash


The member likely meant orchestrated....

Originally posted by getreadyalready
Every theatre I've been in for a big release, or a special viewing had people stationed at every entrance AND exit. It is so extremely common for people to go let their buddy in the back exit, and the theatres know this. Most of the time it isn't worth the extra payroll to man the doors, but for a big release, and midnight showing, they should have had someone either stationed at the door, or at least walking around and checking the doors every so often and keeping an eye on them.

That really truly depends on the theater in question.. it's not like that where I am .. only the larger theater near the mall has that going on ..

The theater owner made a statement that they couldn't afford to shut down and said "we're just a small theater" .. they don't intend to close their business because they can't afford to according to him.. they seem to be under financial strain.. so I doubt they are paying people to stand at doors.. but yes it is common for an usher to come in once or twice during the movie, walk down the aisle and look towards the exits.. if he had it propped ever so slightly ( again, not a foot wide open ) .. then it's very likely that an usher would have missed it.. had one even been down yet! .. keep in mind also that he left 15 minutes into the movie.. it's not likely an usher would have come back in that quickly ..

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
I need to get a grip? Youre the one speculating and telling everyone else they are wrong, even AFTER we know that YOUR reports come from a SCANNER , and not from post incident reports that INCLUDE inspection of bodies and hospital reports.......

What are you talking about. My reports came directly from the Police Cheif, law enforcment, media, etc. I've been watching this like a hawk, and even reporting things before it was even on the news.


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Originally posted by kosmicjack
reply to post by muzzleflash

 

The member likely meant orchestrated....

Ok...so if it were orchestrated no one would have been hurt?

His explicit reasoning for thinking it wasn't staged was "because people got hurt", which doesn't actually qualify as legitimate reasoning for the conclusion to be made.

Originally posted by miniatus

Originally posted by MauiStacey
I am a resident of Columbine in Littleton, CO. I call a staged event with this shooting.

I watched her "brother" on channel 9 news and he seemed to be acting.

Look at this blog he supposedly made.

www.jordanghawi.com...

How on Earth did a grieving man have time to fly from San Antonio to Denver, go to the crime scene and be on the Channel 9 News AND write a blog about his sister?

I think this whole thing is staged in order to instill more fear in us. Next we will have to go through metal detectors and a pat down to go to a flippin' movie.

You're entirely wrong .. a friend of mine's cousin was wounded in this attack, and her boyfriend killed.. this is not a staged event.

If I may, perhaps your friends cousin was indeed there and indeed wounded, the thing is... Holmes could have been shooting to wound and the 12 dead could be fake I.e. plants, yet through the chaos of the whole scene, the authorities staged the deaths. Real event, just designed to be a mass wounding spree colored as a killing spree, achieves same effect but saves lives but still is portrayed as real.

Originally posted by muzzleflash

Originally posted by miniatus


You're entirely wrong .. a friend of mine's cousin was wounded in this attack, and her boyfriend killed.. this is not a staged event.

So if it WAS a staged event, that means no one would have been hurt?
That's nonsense.

The bullets weren't fake, obviously.
Anything else beyond that is up for speculation...

Ok if it's a staged event, but killing real people with real bullets.. why would they even NEED to hire an actor? .. survivors are going to tell their story anyway.. that's nonsense as well =) sorry

Seeing as how this thread as swelled with 50+ pages of conjecture and off topic argument, someone should make a big post about the FACTS, and everyone not reporting facts needs to go start a thread about gun control or opinions or w/e and stop cluttering up the thread with crap.
I seriously hate having to scroll through 5-10 pages to find an on topic post.

reply to post by muzzleflash


As in false flag - it happened but may have been a set up. Sheesh.

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask

Here you are jumping to the conlusion that just because a member here has bad taste, they MUST be the culprit in the fake web page........

And were suppose to trust your judgement?

All three of them were making fake meme images to make fun of this incident, and they even mentioned 9gag. I was simply connecting dots.... [ill-mannered comments removed]

..and it wasn't a fake webpage, it was a fake image of a webpage.

Originally posted by Philly2012
If I may, perhaps your friends cousin was indeed there and indeed wounded, the thing is... Holmes could have been shooting to wound and the 12 dead could be fake I.e. plants, yet through the chaos of the whole scene, the authorities staged the deaths. Real event, just designed to be a mass wounding spree colored as a killing spree, achieves same effect but saves lives but still is portrayed as real.

Her friend's cousin was wounded, her cousin's boyfriend was killed .. I don't think her boyfriend was a fake plant ..

I think people are wanting this to be some kind of conspiracy because they can't imagine someone is capable of such a despicable act.. that's what I think.

reply to post by miniatus


Good points.

I suppose we all feel a little helpless in hindsight. Surely there must have been SOMETHING that SOMEONE could have done differently right? Or is this type of thing just impossible to predict or prevent or counteract?

Its hypothetical, but I think that is why I, and many others keep tossing out suggestions. It is difficult to believe the people in that theatre, and the theatre itself, and the families, and the police, and the roommates, and the neighbors all did just what we are supposed to do, and yet this tragedy still happened.

reply to post by MeesterB


Go back to page 67. There's one that is up to date on that page.

Maybe the guy had a bad ordeal at that movie theater. So he made a plan to get them back..

Saw obama's speech on this and it seems like he was just pissed he had his day ruined.

Originally posted by MeesterB
Seeing as how this thread as swelled with 50+ pages of conjecture and off topic argument, someone should make a big post about the FACTS, and everyone not reporting facts needs to go start a thread about gun control or opinions or w/e and stop cluttering up the thread with crap.
I seriously hate having to scroll through 5-10 pages to find an on topic post.

There is a post on page 67 that has been reposted a few times since then with the "facts" of the case known so far.

There is a thread Here about guns, massacres, and the US that was a suggestion of RealTruth, and it has an article naming all the recent incidents.

Originally posted by senselessness

Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
I need to get a grip? Youre the one speculating and telling everyone else they are wrong, even AFTER we know that YOUR reports come from a SCANNER , and not from post incident reports that INCLUDE inspection of bodies and hospital reports.......

What are you talking about. My reports came directly from the Police Cheif, law enforcment, media, etc. I've been watching this like a hawk, and even reporting things before it was even on the news.


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edit on 7/20/2012 by 12m8keall2c because: (no reason given)

thats funny because in his on air report and the written report FROM the chief, it says 71 people SHOT......

yet you are telling everyone that thre werent that many people shot......

Thats from his own mouth........

Yet you claim the police chief said no such thing.......ok......so whose i the wrong here?

Police Chief reports 71 shot in video

For reference and specific to the details of this event, Fox has been showing people who describe this as a large capacity drum magazine. I thought I'd show what I think it sounds like since I haven't heard any other details. however, these are on the table at the gun shows here..and actually quite handy for target shooting. A few reloads across a whole day instead of a dozen or more. Anyway... This might help explain the sheer volume of gunfire reported.

Beta C-MAG Drum for AR- Platform Rifles

Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by miniatus

 

Good points.

I suppose we all feel a little helpless in hindsight. Surely there must have been SOMETHING that SOMEONE could have done differently right? Or is this type of thing just impossible to predict or prevent or counteract?

Its hypothetical, but I think that is why I, and many others keep tossing out suggestions. It is difficult to believe the people in that theatre, and the theatre itself, and the families, and the police, and the roommates, and the neighbors all did just what we are supposed to do, and yet this tragedy still happened.

Yeah .. right now everyone is speculating.. and some of it is over the top in my mind.. mk ultra, false flags, orchestrated .. people are dead, people are wounded.. we know little yet.. I am VERY curious to know more about his mother because she said right away to the news that they got the right man.. she was confident that her son was the shooter from the get go.. she even assumed he was involved before his name was given.. That says something.. she knew something about her son that none of us know.. and I really want to know what that is.