Revelation - Chapter 13

reply to post by jmdewey60


Ill get to this later when i can write it all out on paper. Im using a cell right now and it's tough to do multiple quotes.

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
reply to post by jmdewey60

 

I do hope we all realize that even if Jesus fulfilled all of the prophecies, we have another identity crisis... he wasn't the only one.

That's right, there's more than one "messiah" in the history of mankind. And the first one - pardon - ONE of the first ones to walk the Earth did so more than 1,000 years before Jesus...according to a manuscript currently housed in the U.K.

edit on 10-7-2012 by AfterInfinity because: (no reason given)

Another one born of a virgin? Please share.

reply to post by caladonea


Here's the whole chapter of Revelation 13 and he explains it very well. My thread here is the whole book of Revelaton all explained in video. Chapter by Chapter and verse by verse.

Revelation: Chapter by chapter and verse by verse.
The symbology you've mentioned is in the first video.

Chapter 13

reply to post by NOTurTypical


Oh...you wanted me to Google it for you? My condolences, I didn't realize you recently broke your ability to do independent research.

Did you want me to write your refuting argument, as well?

Originally posted by AfterInfinity
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Oh...you wanted me to Google it for you? My condolences, I didn't realize you recently broke your ability to do independent research.

That's not how the burden of proof works my friend. You source your assertions, arbitrariness is not kindly looked upon. If I present something outlandish it's my burden to source it.

reply to post by NOTurTypical


So you're calling my claim false without providing proof? And you proclaim that my lack of proving your claim of falsitude incorrect, proves that my claim was false?

In the time that you typed that post, you could have found that my claim was in fact quite correct. Now try again, and this time, do your own research. I'm not handing things to you on a silver platter. If you wish to deny ignorance, do it on your own steam...

Here's a hint to help you on your journey, young padawan:

3) Krishna
4) Buddha
5) Horus
6) Zoroaster
7) Mithras
8) Attis

I believe that you will find these all predate Jesus. Refute, refute!

reply to post by AfterInfinity


You haven't yet provided proof its true so how can I possibly provide proof to refute? I'm not calling you a liar just asking for the source. The burden of proof is on you, not me friend.

reply to post by AfterInfinity


You're aware Zeitgeist has been soundly debunked correct? There is a great thread going so here on ATS from a couple years back. I assumed you were talking about some previous person who met the Messianic prophecies before Christ.

reply to post by AfterInfinity

Why are you here on this site?

Are you come to destroy ?

reply to post by AfterInfinity

3) Krishna

How was Krishna a Messiah?

He didn't claim to die in order to save his followers.

He died because a hunter accidentally shot him in the foot with an arrow when they mistook him for a deer.

What kind of a Messiah is that?

Originally posted by Deetermined
reply to post by AfterInfinity

 

3) Krishna

How was Krishna a Messiah?

He didn't claim to die in order to save his followers.

He died because a hunter accidentally shot him in the foot with an arrow when they mistook him for a deer.

What kind of a Messiah is that?

The kind that sounds like another story of Achilles, or the kind where Tubal Cain accidentaly made Lemech kill Cain and Lemech killed Tubal Cain in a rage which kinda has a similar ring to how Baldur was killed.

Kinda like those people who claim Yeshua is Tammuz but Yeshua was a rabbi who died on a cross to save mankind, while Tammuz was a shepherd who died in a hunting accident killed by a boar and the holiday "Weeping for Tammuz" was created from which today is called Lent .

Originally posted by SimonPeter
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The Atomic bomb is a weapon unlike any other . The RADIANT HEAT from the FLASH of the bomb will consume the eyes and tongue and flesh from your body while you stand . This flash of intense light vaporized a patrol of marching Jap soldiers down to their leather boots ,leaving the remains of the bottom of their shoes where they stood . The blast of the bomb didn't blow the people up or even blow the shoes away . There are pictures where the bones of people were clean of meat and bleached white . Many skulls were not intact as the eyes and everything else was turned into a steam explosion . Peoples shadows were still in concrete today as they shaded the concrete for an instant and the bomb bleached out the area around them .

That is a gruesome way to die, i would hope a person would be dead in an instant than suffer the pain of feeling your atoms torn asunder.

reply to post by lonewolf19792000


Yes it is gruesome .As a kid 12 years old I was very much concerned about the Atomic bomb being sent over by the Russians during the Cuban missile crisis. .
The description given in Zachariah 14 verse 12 tells us of an immediate consummation of flesh before the skeleton can fall . If you go to the photos of the remains of people from Hiroshima and Nagasaki you will see bleached bones clean of flesh and bleached white bones . Bones are not white . God uses people and things on this earth to do his will .Israel said they will use their nukes if they have to .
This A bomb description gives us a time that this prophecy can be attached to a much like the Mark of the Beast must rely on technology of today to control all phases of access to money .

reply to post by SimonPeter


Bones are not white? Then why would there be white bones in the wake of Hiroshima?

And did you hear about the man who survived the attack? Doesn't even look human anymore...

reply to post by Deetermined

How was Krishna a Messiah?

I never claimed he was a messiah. However, he does share the story of Jesus...implying that Jesus was not special. In fact, it implies that Jesus wasn't even original.

The term "messiah" is like calling someone a "king". It is a label people use to give someone a special status because they want the person to have it, or feel he should. It isn't a fact of nature. It's a hierarchal station, an idea given shape by man in their desperation to have control.

Krishna didn't call himself a messiah because he didn't WANT to be the messiah. See the stigma attached the the term "messiah"? Everyone immediately assume that you're there to do all their saving for them. They get lazy. They want you to do the work and lead them by the hand. It's unhealthy. If people weren't so dependent on "God" and Jesus, perhaps they would have banded together and fixed this world by now. But no, they're content to pass the buck until a two-thousand-year-old corpse falls from the sky and accomplishes in one day what hundreds of world leaders couldn't do in a hundred years.

I despise the term "messiah" because of the dependence and unthinking loyalty it instantly instills. I prefer the term "teacher". A teacher will give you information, and let you decide what to do with it for your own good. You get to choose how you flourish, and the teacher encourages you to become successful.

Apparently, a "messiah" encourages you to be humble and debase yourself, so that you never reach your full potential. Do you see what I'm saying here?

reply to post by AfterInfinity


King would be "Nagid". Messiah means "anointed". And Gabriel when giving the prophecy to Daniel to the exact day Jesus would ride into Jerusalem presenting Himself as a King he used the term Moshiyach Nagid or "Messiah the King".

TIshouldn't reply to you because you didn't answer my question to you . The bones were bleached white by the extreme light of the flash that also consumed away the flash .Bones do not appear white without bleaching .extreply to post by AfterInfinity

reply to post by NOTurTypical


I believe "anointed" is just ASSUMED to mean godly. After all, Hebrew words have dozens of definitions.

Double post. Carry on.

reply to post by DaphneApollo


How the hell do we not know when this is supposedly going to happen, yet so many people know what it's going to be like, and yet no one completely agrees with each other's version of the Endtimes?