I make my own liposomal vit C. This stuff is frickin AMAZING!!!!!

Originally posted by undergroundlight
While this might be good, it would be better to take the vitamins in moderation. Too much of a good thing can be painful; I am speaking from experience. My father is really into herbal supplement. He creates concoctions from them trying to cure different things. Some have worked while others have hurt people.

To me don't try to cure big things unless you're willing to risk death. Small things are all fine and dandy to take the risk. Overall it sounds really good, I won't try it myself as herbal supplements scare me. I'll lent the information to my dad. If things go well for him I'll be posting again. If he has tried it already I'll post his comments about it.

edit on 11-6-2012 by undergroundlight because: (no reason given)

While I understand your concern particularly with herbs I don't think there is any reason to fear vitamin C.

There has been no dosage discovered that is toxic.

Many people have taken vitamin C in far greater quantities than anyone here has discussed doing without any negative side effects.

I am confident that all the evidence and literature on the subject show it to be perfectly safe, and highly effective at curing diseases, at dosages under 100g per day in IV form.

Given (from what I have read) that the IV form is supposed to have an absorption rate within the cells of 20% that would be 20g absorbed per day into the cells of the body.

Since Liposomal C is about five times more effective (inter cell absorption) than IV form an equivalent dosage of 100g IV would be a little over 20g of Liposomal C.

No one here has talked about taking 20g of Liposomal C. At most I have had 5g in one day, but my normal dose that I have been doing is about 3g.

Naturally I would think it prudent to not do something as radical as drinking a gallon of Liposomal C at once.

Originally posted by ColeYounger
reply to post by mtiger92

 

Glutathione Recipe:

3 level tablespoons lecithin
1 tablespoon (6- 7 grams) glutathione powder

Use same procedure (with ultrasonic cleaner unit) as described for the liposomal vitamin C mixture..

Thank you Cole. My dad has his fourth IV chemo treatment today. As usual, they do bloodwork to check his CBCs. I don't know if it is due to the chemo or Vitamin C therapy, but the nurse did say that the five most important things that they look at in the CBC panel, all came back better than last week. Ironically, my dad started therapy last week around Thursday. Will post the numbers as soon as I get the paperwork from my dad.

*** I spoke to an oncologist about the liposomal VItamin C and if my dad could take it. After reviewing his IV chemo regimine, he said my dad has no problem taking it or any other vitamins.

Right off hand, the hematocrit came up a bit from being too low, his lymphocyte count was down, his white blood cell count is normal, and there were a couple more things but I forget. Will post them later.

Just wanted to report in that I have been taking it for the last few days. The only effect I've routinely noticed is an energy boost that lasts for a few hours. Not talking superman energy, but cup of coffee type. Haven't noticed any decrease in brain fog or increase in vision. Will continue taking and would recommend more people try it out.

As I anxiously await my supplies, I'm glued to this thread reading everyone's experiences.

I think it would be helpful when someone posts an update or result that they include these with their post:

# of days taking
dose amount
and how often.

reply to post by dominicus

holy mackerel! Where is your wagon, give me the bottle, I'll try it! Stand aside folks...

Thats what I need these days is more energy.

Originally posted by WhiteHat
I don't have an ultrasonic cleaner.

Is it essential to the success of this supplement, or can I use something else instead?

edit on 31-5-2012 by WhiteHat because: (no reason given)

woofer, tweeter, guitar amp reverb, microphone reverb, thats a good source of sonic vibrations. Maybe you could put the flask between a microphone and a speaker, a big one.
You know if you didn't want to pay the 25 bucks.

reply to post by Thaxter


Indeed, I'm now taking 2 Tablesoons, twice a day (40 ml) still feeling great, i had a day off it yesterday, still felt really good, alertness was the same, so i may even cut back to the 2 tablespoons twice a day, every 2 days to see if there are noticeble drops in the beneifts

Originally posted by MegaMind

Originally posted by RogerT3
Also, I have to agree, this in not like any other ATS thread I ever saw before. Co-operation vs the usual competition.
I bet the peeps in this thread could even make a resource based economy (no money) work too!!

I will deviate from the topic a little here ...

You bet! Money and greed destroy everything they touch.

I am convinced that if the human race wants to survive it will have to grow up.

I also believe that the human race could create a paradise on earth if we wanted it en masse.

Imagine if people cared more about each other and the well being of others than they did about making money.

Imagine the health and happiness that people could experience the world over.

Our priorities and values are all out of wack.

We should value People above all else. People should be our number one priority.

It may take a lot of time, and maybe even a 2x4 across the collective head of humanity, but eventually ...

... we will all get it!

edit on 11-6-2012 by MegaMind because: (no reason given)

I was just thinking the same thing (in detail) yesterday, how incredible this planet could be if we let go of profit and focused on the global community. I think I've always been a Utopian at heart (most children seem to be that way )

Yep, it's off topic, but in a way it relates, but have you read any of Bruce Lipton's work on genetics vs environment. Bruce was doing stem cell research back in the 60's/70's and realised the stuff he was doing in the lab proved the opposite of what he was teaching in the classroom in genetics class.

Bottom line is that genetics are NOT the key, in fact genes are powerless to do anything proactive, they are simply blue prints. The real power lies in the individual's perception of the environment, which he noticed can even CHANGE OUR GENES!

I'm paraphrasing and dumbing down (for my own benefit) so apologies to the science types if I'm using terms out of place

Anyway, one of the most interesting things I heard Bruce say, is that if the body as a single organism is really a community of 50 trillion cells, each one being a microcosm of the human body itself, then it follows that humanity is really a single organism made up currently of 7 billion cells (humans). This was the first 'real world' example of 'we are all one' that I had heard and it makes perfect sense to me - self evident really.

Additionally, if you use the analogy of human body to humanity, disease occurs when the cells are not 'doing their assigned job' or are somehow in 'conflict', so one could say that humanity is diseased.

My personal theory, is that when we successfully eliminate money and go to a resource based economy, people will naturally and gradually gravitate to doing what they love, which will be exactly what they are supposed to be doing. So when all humans are 'doing their thing' without the corrupting influence of money (or the need to survive), humanity will become healed

2serious's immediate and spontaneous creation of the wiki page is a great example of that, albeit on a very small scale. We also call this spontaneous, agendaless living and it's a very cool and fulfilling way to pass one's time on this exquisite planet.

NOW BACK TO TOPIC: I thought of a way to keep experimenting
I'm gonna see what level of vitC (pure AA in water) gives me diahrrea, then I can see if the Lipo-C allows me to take more. I guess that's one way of testing the encapsulation. I'll start with 5g just before lunch. This probably isn't that interesting to those getting great results, but it might be one way to test the Lipo-C against the individual supplements un-lipo'd.

Originally posted by crankyoldman

I also have to report that over the past year or so, diet and nutrition seem to be having a less and less effect on my well-being and general state of body-balance (physical health). Non-physical factors are becoming more and more dominant. My personal woo-woo belief is that there are huge consciousness developments going on for a lot of us that affect the physical stuff in a major way, and each person is having their own unique, tailored ride.

Spot on Roger, I have noticed this in myself and many others. The C here will do some great stuff, but for some it will be like a nice bump, and then it is on to the next thing to help them evolve. For many, making the stuff and taking it will be a really nice bump. Each is on their own unique path at this point, it does seem like the whole "focus on the body, fitness life" is waning for those on a certain trajectory.

Wow, just as I was reading that I suddenly got it on a deeper level, thanks so much.
Yes indeed, I am seeing people in this thread release the shackles of allopathic conditioning and begin to question their deep seated beliefs about health and medicine. It took me 9 years of daily antibiotics as a teenager to lose my faith in allopathy, and probably another 20 years to recover from it!!

I also see quite a few peeps in here that are quite a long way down that road, and now the thread's allowing a bit of helpful progressive philosophy into it, without even derailing it!

Can I ask if you are feeling more disembodied or more centred in the body at this point (generally, not regarding the lipo-C), or kind of both at once?

Originally posted by MegaMind

Originally posted by undergroundlight
While this might be good, it would be better to take the vitamins in moderation. Too much of a good thing can be painful; I am speaking from experience. My father is really into herbal supplement. He creates concoctions from them trying to cure different things. Some have worked while others have hurt people.

To me don't try to cure big things unless you're willing to risk death. Small things are all fine and dandy to take the risk. Overall it sounds really good, I won't try it myself as herbal supplements scare me. I'll lent the information to my dad. If things go well for him I'll be posting again. If he has tried it already I'll post his comments about it.

edit on 11-6-2012 by undergroundlight because: (no reason given)

While I understand your concern particularly with herbs I don't think there is any reason to fear vitamin C.

There has been no dosage discovered that is toxic.

Many people have taken vitamin C in far greater quantities than anyone here has discussed doing without any negative side effects.

I am confident that all the evidence and literature on the subject show it to be perfectly safe, and highly effective at curing diseases, at dosages under 100g per day in IV form.

Given (from what I have read) that the IV form is supposed to have an absorption rate within the cells of 20% that would be 20g absorbed per day into the cells of the body.

Since Liposomal C is about five times more effective (inter cell absorption) than IV form an equivalent dosage of 100g IV would be a little over 20g of Liposomal C.

No one here has talked about taking 20g of Liposomal C. At most I have had 5g in one day, but my normal dose that I have been doing is about 3g.

Naturally I would think it prudent to not do something as radical as drinking a gallon of Liposomal C at once.

This reply is really to undergroundlight:

In my mid twenties when I was aggressively seeking natural remedies and healing modalities, I came across Dr. Richard Schulze an American herbalist, persecuted by the AMA so he must be good

I read some of his writing and realised I had found a real natural healing warrior, who wasn't going to pussy-foot around. I've since done every one of his healing routines (except vaginal implants as I don't have one ) and they all do exactly what he says they do.

Schulze ran a clinic in Malibu for 20 years, the final decade before he was shut down treating exclusively patients who had incurable diseases, most of which had already outlived their prognosis.

Schulze says something like this: "A lot of people worry about herbal overdoses, but they never seem to have a problem overdosing on beer, pizza and soda. I actually did my best to KILL my patients with herbal overdoses but the worst I could do was make them vomit if I gave them too much" - again, I'm paraphrasing, but you can read a lot of his stuff for free on his blog, just google it.

In fact, Dr. S suggests that in order to find the right dosage for any individual, you simply increase the quantity until they puke, then back down a tiny bit!!

By trusting Dr. S, I've learned not only that herbs are my friends and will never hurt me (provided I use some modicum of common sense) but also that I can cure ANYTHING in my own body, so I have absolutely NO FEAR OF ILLNESS OR DISEASE anymore. It's not a bid deal, I just don't consider it. I only notice how much that frees me up when I see other people's reactions to disease and death, especially the big C.

BTW, I haven't yet had a major illness to cure to prove my point to myself (helped several friends do it though), but I did self heal a ruptured achilles tendon in less than 2 months which 3 consultant surgeons independently told me was impossible ("without surgery you will NEVER walk again!"). I was playing squash again 3 months after I bust it in half playing squash

So bottom line: herbs are your friends, even the ones we have been taught to fear, maybe especially those ones

reply to post by RogerT3


If all you're saying is true, I know it is, for this particular type of vitamin it would be good. Moderation is still a nice thing to practice is all I am saying because some people don't have common sense. Not pointing fingers at anyone just from experience with family.

I wouldn't unless it was a last resort, that stuff still scares me.

reply to post by undergroundlight


If one is afraid of something, is usually fear of the unknown -- like a child afraid of the dark. Knowledge is light and will dispel darkness and fear. I think it's the same way with herbs. I can't say I know everything about them, but we have used them judiciously and with full knowledge first. Since we have Google now, it's so easy to look up an herb or ailment. Now, trusting someone else just to give me a bottle of their homemade "elixir-in-a-bottle" without a label or telling me what exactly is in it -- no way. Few would go there. So, if you have no interest in learning about herbs, than it's probably just as well you don't use them. But, vitamin C is not exactly "herbal." Thanks for your thoughts though.

In the spirit of moderation ( ) I took about 7g of AA in a glass of water about 2 hours ago, so far no runny botty, that's kinda weird. I'll try 15g before dinner and see what happens.

I wonder if this means my body was starving for vitC or that my bowels just don't mind it

reply to post by 2serious


One more thing, all echinacea is not created equal! In other words, check the source of the herbs. Even organically grown herbs, for example, would be gassed with ethylene oxide if they were being imported into the US.

A LOT of chinese herbal medicine is also NOT herbal. Deer antlers, tiger penises, pearls and a whole host of rather weird and rather disgusting things goes into a lot of chinese herbal medicine (aborted foetuses also - yeuach!), so watch out!

Either pick your own herbs from a trusted local organic source, or find someone who does the same thing that you feel you can trust.

And yeah, Ascorbic Acid Powder and Soy Lecithin Granules are hardly herbs, so see Megamind's reply at the top of the page about safety of VitC. Sorry, I took it off topic a bit, but did want to offer you a bit of peace of mind regarding safety of pure herbs.

reply to post by RogerT3



And on top of that, it's pot luck as to whether any of the acclaimed active ingredient is actually present in imported Chinese medicinal herbs. A small pharma company I used to be involved with told me a number of stories from all the samples they would test. Sometimes they would not only not have the correct ingredients in them, but have something else in them entirely that could potentially lead to a fair bit of harm.

Thanks to shoeshiner, I've done some extra research, I've decided to go with 3 different forms of the lipo c

I'm going to order the calcium ascorbate, the magnesium ascorbate, and get some Glutathione

I figure if I schedule them out to take one consecutively each day, I should get the added minerals and benefits from each type, rather than sticking to one formal! Voila! It is going to cost an extra $100 odd to get the ingredients, but if I'm making several different formulas then hopefully they last longer and save me money at the same time

It is truly wonderful to feel alive, and it is truly an honour and a privilege to be walking the path with all of you, you have my respect and gratitude, great bunch of human's

Ok, Day 4 update for me:

Me - Only notice energy boost for anywhere from 3 - 8 hours. I usually take 2 tablespoons of this stuff daily. Since I work 6 days a week, of which 1 day starts at 4 am, I have to be careful of when and how I take my dosage. I would not take my dosage at night prior to my 4 am stint, in order to avoid any sleepiness. That being said, I now take my formula in the middle of the day 1 hour prior to lunch or 1 hr prior to dinner, on an empty stomach.

My wife - I started giving her 1 tablespoon full this week, which coincidentally coincided with her having a stuffy nose, cough and fever. She now has zero symptoms. The cold has disappeared. Not sure if I can attribute the lipo-C formula to her quick recovery but I can't seem to think of anything else. Her response to taking the Lipo-C has been more noticeable than mine. The 1st time she took it she got sleepy and calm but then started doing work on the deck. The next day she went shopping and has been more of a chatterbox than usual. It usually takes 15-30 mins for this stuff to kick in for her.

I also gave my teenagers this stuff but they reported little or no reaction. I only gave them 1 teaspoon so not sure how to assess their outcome.

Okay I'm considering going into my doctor for blood testing prior to starting my Vit-C.

My question is what all I should have screened? Here are some I am thinking?

Vit-C
Vit-D
Iron
Copper
Zinc
Glutathione

Any suggestions?

Originally posted by Julie Washington
Okay I'm considering going into my doctor for blood testing prior to starting my Vit-C.

My question is what all I should have screened? Here are some I am thinking?

Vit-C
Vit-D
Iron
Copper
Zinc
Glutathione

Any suggestions?

i'd add magnesium to that list.

also, possibly: sodium, iodine,phosphorus and calcium