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WA Threatens to split from Australia

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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:10 AM
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Alright an Australian civil war...bout time! You can't have a good country without a civil war every once and a while!



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:37 AM
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yeah the rental crisis is nuts in WA, they should flip Canberra the bird...than the state will boom the way it should be. although theres no way the pollies will let the money go.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:39 AM
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An Aussie Civil war? Wouldn't happen mate

50% would call in sick.
20% would be too hung over
20% would be too late
and the remain 10% would defect




posted on May, 20 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by CrimsonKapital
 


I think there are many US Marines in Australia.
I hope they do not get involved again where they do not belong.
Who am I kidding, we know why the foreign force is there...


Pft, I don't want my troops in your country either, thats my money paying for them to rent that base. It wouldn't bother me a bit if we stopped staffing 1500 bases we do not need and paying 3 trillion a year to keep them supplied. I'm all for letting Austaralia play the worlds police force for a change instead of sitting on the sidelines and backbiting us.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by CrimsonKapital
 


I think there are many US Marines in Australia.
I hope they do not get involved again where they do not belong.
Who am I kidding, we know why the foreign force is there...


Pft, I don't want my troops in your country either, thats my money paying for them to rent that base. It wouldn't bother me a bit if we stopped staffing 1500 bases we do not need and paying 3 trillion a year to keep them supplied. I'm all for letting Austaralia play the worlds police force for a change instead of sitting on the sidelines and backbiting us.


The US is a major investor in Western Australia. www.dfat.gov.au... Just recently obama increased the US military presence to protect WA from China, or US investments if you like.
The US has a lot of money tied up in West Australia, hence their military presence
www.wsws.org...

The question is do we want your troops? A failing US empire and a possible aggresive monster in China on our doorstep.
Dont think you guys are here for anything other than money, its not motivated by your generosity I can assure you.

For the record I like Americans, not so much your government



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Thats a good reply my friend, but, and there is always a but

A world police force? why does the world need a global police force?

Hows this - maybe if we all stopped splashing around the water would go calm.

Naive, maybe, but since its never been tried there is no argument.

I agree with your comments regarding your country, unfortunately, from the sidelines, your country is, to make a comparison, a wounded animal, and there is nothing more dangerous than a wounded animal.

You can heal your wound - Zeitgeist, Thrive and to a lesser extent loose change help the world understand how to heal that wound - first get rid of the infection.

Peace to you Lion of Judah



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 10:03 AM
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posted on May, 20 2012 @ 10:23 AM
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What a mess we have made of this amazing land in so little time. Hope the scars aren't permanent



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 10:32 AM
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I copped a read of your last post before it was removed. Your recruitment strategy requires re-evaluation mate. Personally, I have read much on the subject about our little friend in the Middle East and agree that they are not what they seem - try segregating the Entity from the people though. My understanding is that the former is based on the Protocols, the latter are cannon fodder and always have been Most people on the planet have been fed tripe on this subject - thanks to the MSM. I would not join your cause but I do agree with some of the points you made.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 11:08 AM
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I hate to do this, but its killing me. The words you are looking for are "secede" and "secession", NOT "succeed" and "succession." As long as we're discussing something like this, we might as well get the language correct.

Partaining to the thread, I'm not too familiar with Australian politics, but just how badly would TPTB in Australia want WA to remain with the whole? Enough to promote civil war? Do the social conditions exist (tension between areas and people) to facilitate such an event?
edit on 20-5-2012 by OrchusGhule because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by BLV12A

Eh, big deal, one little error that I read off another site and didn't bother to check as I was on the phone at the same time as I was typing.
Congrats, do you feel like a big man now?

Check what,its simple math what I don`t like is how the rest of Australia trivialises WA,just told to shut up and keep raking in the money.

Oh and no bigger than yesterday.


The point I was making is still valid.
WA is not a sizeable, population wise, part of the country.
It has 2.3 million people.

Your opinion that 2.3 million isn`t sizable of 22.3 million,thanks for that fellow Aussie.

This should not mean having 10% of the population we should have to pay 20% company tax,but Wayne Swan comes out and says that they are helping us with the Eastern Highway and we should be eternally grateful,who the heck wants to go east,upgrade out Northern Highway thats where the money comes from for starters.
(more at this one little link)


Mr Barnett said the state was being dudded considering it represented 10 per cent of Australia's population but provided 20 per cent of all commonwealth company tax.

"And we get no recognition."

He said WA's prosperity was not "by chance".

"That's because people and governments in this state work hard," the premier said.

"They work harder than any state economy around the world.

"Other states choose not to develop their natural resources, including their mineral resources, and want to take the wealth from here.

"They should do the hard yards."
news.ninemsn.com.au...

Fair enough to me,having lived here all my life this isn`t anything new thats just happened, we are overlooked in many areas.



Of course, if Perth is short on money, they could always scrap their new $1 billion 60,000 seat stadium before construction starts.
And rather spend a few hundred million instead to upgrade Subiaco.

They are also building a 15,000 seat indoor arena.

They have a freeway network.
They are building some giant underground train tunnel system.


Maybe they should scale back their ambitious plans, or increase their time frame, if they cant afford them...rather then threaten like children to run away.


Yeah we could all start eating from rubbish bins as well that would make many east coasters happy,just remember to chuck us a few little trinkets once in a while that should stop the natives getting restless.

I have no problem with WA helping out the rest of Australia,I do have a problem when we are overlooked and taken for granted.

Even the flood victims are not worth as much as those of the east coast
news.smh.com.au...

Play fair.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 12:48 PM
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My wife and her friends who are Aussie's(and they are spread from East to West) had a choice word regarding this article you posted.....
unfortunately I can't repeat it on this post
... I sense a theme building in your posts.

What section does the control of Australia from the Capitalist West come under in your red book
Epic Fail.
edit on 20-5-2012 by DreamerOracle because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 01:00 PM
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Originally posted by DreamerOracle
My wife and her friends who are Aussie's(and they are spread from East to West) had a choice word regarding this article you posted.....
unfortunately I can't repeat it on this post


Yeah they sound like Aussies,we are not really known for our flowery speach


Now if they are from the East coast they are swearing at us West Aussies and if they are West Aussies they are swearing at the Gov.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 02:58 PM
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Originally posted by lonewolf19792000

Originally posted by g146541
reply to post by CrimsonKapital
 


I think there are many US Marines in Australia.
I hope they do not get involved again where they do not belong.
Who am I kidding, we know why the foreign force is there...


Pft, I don't want my troops in your country either, thats my money paying for them to rent that base. It wouldn't bother me a bit if we stopped staffing 1500 bases we do not need and paying 3 trillion a year to keep them supplied. I'm all for letting Austaralia play the worlds police force for a change instead of sitting on the sidelines and backbiting us.


Hey bro, I do want "your" troops in my country though,this is where they should be as they are our first and best defense against tyranny.
Btw, look just below my avatar and you will see my geographic location.
So seeing is how I am fat old and retired I payed for those troops too.
I don't believe Australia ever wanted to play world police, nor do I believe they back bite us any more than us US citizens do.
I'm sure Australia can hold their own against anything they need to, and if not, allies are just a phone call away.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:02 PM
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Dident Western Australia threaten to leave the Federation if Australia became a republic?

By the way support for becoming a republic is at an all time low.



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:11 PM
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The best part of the 1933 secession attempt was after the successful referendum WA went to the UK and offered to join and they just ignored them



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 03:57 PM
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They should so do it . WA is so far away from the rest it has it own economy . I will go there if they do . Except that where Im from . All those eastern staters invaded us way back bringing all their crime with them .haha . True though .

My home street in Perth was a quite middle class suburbia when growing up .Later after my moms departure from mortal world I was back living in old family home and low and behold who had the house next door that had belonged to a very traditional middle class family .

Drug lords from the east ..or I should say one of there growing house mixed with chem lab for those drugs they run at the night clubs .

Black cars all turning up early in the morning for when the next batch was ready .

First thing the West needs to do is stop free flow immigration from the East ...lol true though all the crime came from east coast



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by OrchusGhule
reply to post by CrimsonKapital
 


I hate to do this, but its killing me. The words you are looking for are "secede" and "secession", NOT "succeed" and "succession." As long as we're discussing something like this, we might as well get the language correct.

Partaining to the thread, I'm not too familiar with Australian politics, but just how badly would TPTB in Australia want WA to remain with the whole? Enough to promote civil war? Do the social conditions exist (tension between areas and people) to facilitate such an event?
edit on 20-5-2012 by OrchusGhule because: (no reason given)
You dont have to worry about civil war between east ans west coast . We are a small population and all are Australians first and most of the population on the West Coast are proberly economic immigrants from the East coast .

East coasters are mean people . I live on the East coast , first thing I noticed was how aggressive they are . Hmmm...maybe the east coast would attack the west



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by gps777

Originally posted by BLV12A

Eh, big deal, one little error that I read off another site and didn't bother to check as I was on the phone at the same time as I was typing.
Congrats, do you feel like a big man now?

Check what,its simple math what I don`t like is how the rest of Australia trivialises WA,just told to shut up and keep raking in the money.


And before the mining boom, what was WA's contribution?
It now accounts for 46% of national exports.
That should tell you how bad things are for the rest of the country.
If you care so much about your fellow Aussies and your country, maybe you lot should stop your whining and just be happy that at least your state is in a position to keep the rest of the nation going for a change.
I'm sure if we look back through history, we will find examples of when other states wealth benefited WA too.



Oh and no bigger than yesterday.


The point I was making is still valid.
WA is not a sizeable, population wise, part of the country.
It has 2.3 million people.

Your opinion that 2.3 million isn`t sizable of 22.3 million,thanks for that fellow Aussie.


I never said 2.3 million aren't important.
I'm saying that 17.6 million who live on the eastern seaboard have a bigger slice of the pie for obvious reasons.
More people means more money is needed.
Get it?

I really don't give a damn about your highways.

As for your prosperity. Please. You work hard? So the rest of Australia are bludgers waiting for WA to work and hand over the cash? LOL

I guess Australia's fairy god mother paid the bills before WA had it's mining boom?




Yes, poor old WA, always over looked.
Always ignored.
As far as I can tell, WA has been all the rage in recent years with the mining boom and everyone wanting to go over and chase the big dollars.
Lots of people have gone over and resettled in WA.
Where do you think your population growth has come from? That fairy god mother I mentioned above?


If you think WA is ignored, try SA, NT, or Tassie...

And btw, maybe someone should tell your premier that not every state is as resource rich as WA..



posted on May, 20 2012 @ 06:29 PM
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Can anyone spell 'SECEDE' ???

Ignorance level here is astonishing.

Second line...



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