Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Haw

Originally posted by Anon008

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon009

 

But whatever, you don't have to defend yourself to me. I will always know.

Now that is a talent that belongs in the Paranormal Studies forum!

Or the Health and Wellness forum.

Literacy isn't a talent.

Again, swish.
What I am pointing to is either your belief that you have a paranormal power.....
Or delusions of grandeur.
Peace be with you.

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by Xtrozero
but he lied that he was from Kenya to get his college paid for, we get it.

No you dont get it, that claim was an April fool's joke that silly birthers keep falling for!

More like a sad farce imagines by extremists whom the Republican party refuses to correct.

Originally posted by FoosM

Chester Alan Arthur (October 5, 1829 – November 18, 1886) was the 21st President of the United States (1881–1885).

William Arthur's frequent moves would later form the basis for accusations that Chester Arthur was not a native-born citizen of the United States. After Arthur was nominated for Vice President in 1880, his political opponents suggested that he might be constitutionally ineligible to hold that office.[8] A New York attorney, Arthur P. Hinman, apparently hired by his opponents, explored rumors of Arthur's foreign birth.[9] Hinman initially alleged that Arthur was born in Ireland and did not come to the United States until he was fourteen years old, which would make him ineligible for the Vice Presidency under the United States Constitution's natural-born citizen clause.[9][c] When that story did not take root, Hinman spread a new rumor that Arthur was born in Canada, but this claim also failed to gain credence.[9]

en.wikipedia.org...

So OBAMA is not the first President whose eligibility was in question due to his birthplace.

So Im wondering, and maybe it has been already said, who is responsible in vetting candidates?
Is there a independent third party that does this? If not, why not?

What is clear to me though that Obama's past is suspect. There is something he is hiding.
And this is why his past is not clear. Maybe his father is not his real father, or maybe he really
wasn't born in the US. I dont know, but i do find the whole matter suspect, when it shouldn't be.

I dont believe that Obama never read the booklet. It would be something anyone would show off to their family and friends as an accomplishment. If not, I can also imagine, with Obama's complicated history, he would be the one to write the information, or, at least he would be asked to proofread it.

I just don't see a literary agent lying about somebody's birthplace just to sell a book. That makes no sense.
Its not where you are born, its where you have lived that is a selling point. And if it was a mistake, how come the mistake or rumors is not regarding being born in Indonesia? Why does it point to Kenya?

Excellent question "Who is responsible for vetting the President." You would think the Chairman of the particular party would vet the candidates before allowing them apply for state primary election candidacy. I would think they should be vetted when the announce their candidacy to the public. The Secretary of State for each state is responsible to make sure that the candidate is eligible to run for office before they are place on the ballot.



www.basicsproject.org...

State Boards of Election & Commissions
The only verification process that State Boards of Election and State Election Commissions execute is to require:

A Statement of Candidacy: This form (this is an FEC form but it encompasses the requirements of every state) requires each candidate to provide his name, address, party affiliation, office sought, the state and district of the contest, a designation of a principle campaign committee, the designation of other authorized committees and a declaration of intent to expend personal funds. Lastly, it requires a potential candidate to “attest” that he or she is “qualified for the office specified.” At no place in the official guide or paperwork is a birth certificate or other form of verification of natural born citizenship required.......

When contacted by our researches, each and every election board and commission responded, some through their legal counsels, that the entity responsible for vetting the eligibility of their nominated candidates is the political party itself.

So the states say the political party does the vetting. I could not find any set vetting information (rules/guidelines).
Sounds like the dems didn't do a very through job. Not until 2009 was there even a bill put forth requiring a birth certificate as part of the vetting process. (www.wnd.com...)

The MSM didn't dwell on his birth issue and it seems that in recent elections the political parties have been relying on the Media to do the vetting.

Exactly Who Vets A Presidential Candidate ?
www.sodahead.com...

It was not the Supreme Court that vetted Obama, not the state courts, not the election commissions, not the attorneys general, not the legislature, not the DNC and not the Hawaii Office of Vital Statistics. Just who did vet Barack Obama? You guessed it, the internet!

Is there one person in the Democrat party that will claim responsibility for vetting BHO? Not that I can find.
Looks like the vetting got done after the fact since the President did not show his long form birth certificate until he was POTUS.

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by Anon008

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon009

 

You deflected from the point there, the lack verifiable information about the man, particularly the college years.

That is why imagination is used for that time period, there isn't a lot of hard info to go on.

So your saying the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence

Hmmmm.
Not sure what you are saying here.
'the absence of evidence' is not one of 'my sayings'.

Admittedly I might have accidentally replied to your post when I meant to reply to a post in another topic. Although, it is a rather common maxim to know. Its the whole pre-emptive Bush strategy. Their excuse for not finding WMDs in Iraq.

But I digress.

Your saying since there is no verifiable evidence from his college years, that is must prove the hypothesis that Obama was born not in the US?

Originally posted by Anon008

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon009

 

So now he is a Kenyan pornstar with minions.

BTW, who said that?

It wasn't me.
But then you were aware of that.

I make it a point to quote who-ever I am replying to. Apparently ATS dosn't like it when we quote eachother though...

I am sure that you are aware that I did not say that Obama was or is a porn star.
I said, "may have been, for all we know." The point being that we have very little certain info on the current President of the United States of America. You know, the transparent guy.

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by Anon008

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon009

 

But whatever, you don't have to defend yourself to me. I will always know.

Now that is a talent that belongs in the Paranormal Studies forum!

Or the Health and Wellness forum.

Literacy isn't a talent.

Again, swish.
What I am pointing to is either your belief that you have a paranormal power.....
Or delusions of grandeur.
Peace be with you.

Being able to read literature and think critically on a subject is niether paranormal nor indicitive of delusions of granduer. I do not think I am supperior in any way to my nieghbors. Thats why I see the importance of communication and empathy.
However, I cannot also say that every man follows this doctrine. There will ALWAYS be men that believe themselves supperior, or ordained, or entitled to lead men. And we must always identify these men. Or else we become their victims.

reply to post by Anon008

You are saying since there is no verifiable evidence from his college years, that is must prove the hypothesis that Obama was born not in the US?

Absolutely not!

I am saying that Mr. Transparent is very much opaque. His college years and shortly afterward have nothing to do with the 'birther thing' that you despise, as far as I know. I don't care at this point where he was born, he is in office now, and I seriously doubt that he would be removed even if he came out tomorrow and said that he was born in another country.

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by Anon008

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon009

 

So now he is a Kenyan pornstar with minions.

BTW, who said that?

It wasn't me.
But then you were aware of that.

I make it a point to quote who-ever I am replying to. Apparently ATS dosn't like it when we quote eachother though...

I am sure that you are aware that I did not say that Obama was or is a porn star.
I said, "may have been, for all we know." The point being that we have very little certain info on the current President of the United States of America. You know, the transparent guy.

For all we know you could have said it.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon008

 

You are saying since there is no verifiable evidence from his college years, that is must prove the hypothesis that Obama was born not in the US?

Absolutely not!

I am saying that Mr. Transparent is very much opaque. His college years and shortly afterward have nothing to do with the 'birther thing' that you despise, as far as I know. I don't care at this point where he was born, he is in office now, and I seriously doubt that he would be removed even if he came out tomorrow and said that he was born in another country.

Ask George W Bush what he was like in Yale. Or Clinton about his Yale days. You only see Obama as opaque because nothing short of the most damning evidence ever could satisfy your hunger for the demise of the man you dislike. You decided it when you chose to ignore evidence, when you chose to believe an Arizona Sheriff over the white house, when you believed 70 year old Republicans whose racism is thinly vieled at best, over the Hawaii State Records.

reply to post by Anon008

For all we know you could have said it.

Well, sure. But then you have access to my posts here......

and I am pretty sure that I am not running for POTUS.
I am also fairly certain that if I did run for POTUS, I would be properly vetted by all of the political parties involved in the race AND the news media.

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady

Mr Chase credentials are listed towards the bottom of the page:

Who is Nick Chase?

Other then the - - I'm sure - - self supplied credentials - - - - I can't find anything on him.

Very interesting question. I keep getting "Internal Server Error" statements all over the place on web pages linked to him including nicholaschase.com and his wikipedia page. It was really raising my conspiracy antennas.

Here is some good background:


www.linkedin.com...

Nicholas Chase
President, InterSection Unlimited, LLC
Greenville, South Carolina Area | Computer Software
Current: Contractor at Lucid Imagination, Application Developer at Manning Press, Founder/Product Development at InterSection Unlimited Past:Chief Technology Officer at Nexus Media Group, Technology Chair at Relay For Life of Second Life, Partner, Freelance Writer at Backstop Media, Co... Summary:A senior programmer with deep experience in web applications and services, team management, project definition, and technical writing, enabling h...

zicyav.altervista.org...

www.informit.com...

Nicholas Chase has been involved in Web site development for companies including Lucent Technologies, Sun Microsystems, Oracle Corporation, and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers. Nick has been a high school physics teacher, a low-level radioactive waste facility manager, an online science fiction magazine editor, a multimedia engineer, and an Oracle instructor. More recently, he was the Chief Technology Officer of an interactive communications agency in Clearwater, Florida, and is the author of several books on Web development, including XML and Java from Scratch and Active Server Pages from Scratch (Que). He currently lives in Florida with his beautiful wife Sarah and their teenage son, Sean.

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady

Mr Chase credentials are listed towards the bottom of the page:

Who is Nick Chase?

Other then the - - I'm sure - - self supplied credentials - - - - I can't find anything on him.

Very interesting question. I keep getting "Internal Server Error" statements all over the place on web pages linked to him including nicholaschase.com and his wikipedia page. It was really raising my conspiracy antennas.

Here is some good background:

www.linkedin.com...

Nicholas Chase
President, InterSection Unlimited, LLC
Greenville, South Carolina Area | Computer Software
Current: Contractor at Lucid Imagination, Application Developer at Manning Press, Founder/Product Development at InterSection Unlimited Past:Chief Technology Officer at Nexus Media Group, Technology Chair at Relay For Life of Second Life, Partner, Freelance Writer at Backstop Media, Co... Summary:A senior programmer with deep experience in web applications and services, team management, project definition, and technical writing, enabling h...

zicyav.altervista.org...

www.informit.com...

Are you sure that is the right Nick Chase?

reply to post by sad_eyed_lady


Vetting
en.wikipedia.org...
"Vetting is a process of examination and evaluation, generally referring to performing a background check on someone before offering them employment, conferring an award, etc. In addition, in intelligence gathering, assets are vetted to determine their usefulness."

You are asking who ran a background check on Obama, and that since no elected Democrat had vetted him, the Democratic party has fudged up. Let me first begin by stating the every US intelligence agency 'Vetts' presidential candidates. CIA FBI SS NSA, all of em. So his credentials were so expertly forged they fooled our nations most intelligent (and by extension creepily invasive) intel agencies. Ok, and what brought him down was a photoshopped birth certificate? Let that sit for a while and try to make sense of itself.

Furthermore, lets say no one from any intelligence agency ran a background check on him (which would be not only super negligent bordering on High Treason, but a contemporary first...and all after 9/11...). Your saying it would fall to an elected Democratic official to vett him? The political parties vett people with their own staff and management. No one elects the interns man. Your asking for the names of inconsequential staff from 20 years ago, and saying lack of those names are proof that Obama is hiding something.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon008

 

For all we know you could have said it.

Well, sure. But then you have access to my posts here......

and I am pretty sure that I am not running for POTUS.
I am also fairly certain that if I did run for POTUS, I would be properly vetted by all of the political parties involved in the race AND the news media.

So if I didn't have access to your post, it proves you called Obama a Kenyan Pornstar with minions who disseminate his various nefarious orders to the Black Panther Party?

Cause if you cant produce that post, it proves you were born in Kenya.

(let me save you some time. You are going to quote your post. I will then reply "This could have been easily photo shopped". To which you would HOPEFULLY understand what I just did to you, is what birthers do to Obama.)

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady

Mr Chase credentials are listed towards the bottom of the page:

Who is Nick Chase?

Other then the - - I'm sure - - self supplied credentials - - - - I can't find anything on him.

Very interesting question. I keep getting "Internal Server Error" statements all over the place on web pages linked to him including nicholaschase.com and his wikipedia page. It was really raising my conspiracy antennas.

Here is some good background:

www.linkedin.com...

Nicholas Chase
President, InterSection Unlimited, LLC
Greenville, South Carolina Area | Computer Software
Current: Contractor at Lucid Imagination, Application Developer at Manning Press, Founder/Product Development at InterSection Unlimited Past:Chief Technology Officer at Nexus Media Group, Technology Chair at Relay For Life of Second Life, Partner, Freelance Writer at Backstop Media, Co... Summary:A senior programmer with deep experience in web applications and services, team management, project definition, and technical writing, enabling h...

zicyav.altervista.org...

www.informit.com...

Are you sure that is the right Nick Chase?

These...all appear to be different people?

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady

Originally posted by Annee

Originally posted by sad_eyed_lady

Mr Chase credentials are listed towards the bottom of the page:

Who is Nick Chase?

Other then the - - I'm sure - - self supplied credentials - - - - I can't find anything on him.

Very interesting question. I keep getting "Internal Server Error" statements all over the place on web pages linked to him including nicholaschase.com and his wikipedia page. It was really raising my conspiracy antennas.

I believe this is the correct Nick Chase.

Can't find anything on him except he writes his own Stock Market/Financial blog/newsletter.

contrariansview.org...

reply to post by Annee


No. I do know that the guy looks the same in 2 of the web sites pictures. Do you think anything he wrote in the article sounded made up or untrue?

reply to post by Anon008

So if I didn't have access to your post, it proves you called Obama a Kenyan Pornstar with minions who disseminate his various nefarious orders to the Black Panther Party? edit on 20-5-2012 by Anon008 because: (no reason given)

Please, tell me what I accused him of.
I am saying that Mr. Obama was not properly vetted.

You have accused me of disliking him. I do not know him personally, so I don't harbor personal dislike for him. I think he sucks as a President, but I think that of all of the Presidents right on back to Andrew Jackson. I think he was a good one for this reason.

reply to post by Annee

You have the right guy. I believe your link is the one mentioned in the article. I can't believe I spent an hour chasing down the wrong guy just because I did not check that link.

His was the first article that came up, but there are quite a few out there.

reply to post by Anon008

You are going to quote your post.

You are claiming precognition now.
Do you understand why I mentioned the paranormal forum earlier?