Exclusive - Obama's Literary Agent in 1991 Booklet: 'Born in Kenya and raised in Indonesia and Haw

Originally posted by esteay812
I'd like to see a truly authentic document provided by a legitimate source. A certified document that is at least in photo form and not a scanned copy or a digital copy. You know what I am referring to? A document that can be physically handled and examined for authenticity.

You mean like this one

factcheck.org...

It has been available for nearly 4 years, you must not have done much research to have missed it - Exactly what research did you do to look for it?

Originally posted by Anon009

Yes, when your in Harvard Law, all your time needs to be spent on fact checking the University's biopic of yourself.

But the wrong county? Come on hehe.... I'm glad they didn't put in he as a porn star, and let that ride for 17 years.


That is the most racist thing I ever seen, they assumed since he was black he was from Kenya too... Ya that got to be the reason...ya right

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Anon009

Yes, when your in Harvard Law, all your time needs to be spent on fact checking the University's biopic of yourself.

But the wrong county? Come on hehe.... I'm glad they didn't put in he as a porn star, and let that ride for 17 years.

That is the most racist thing I ever seen, they assumed since he was black he was from Kenya too... Ya that got to be the reason...ya right

edit on 20-5-2012 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)

Hey, he may have been a porn star, for all we know.
His verifiable history is mostly blank, and what we have been given from his minions is muddled.

Originally posted by esteay812
reply to post by Anon009

 

Are you seriously trying to pull out a race card now?!?! ABSOLUTELY, INCREDIBLY SHAMELESS as well as being a terrible tactic to try and confirm your belief.

Let's call people racist in an attempt to remove credibility from those with different ideas - who cares if they are right, as long as we can bruise their credibility?!

I also find it sub par that you would challenge me to offer names of reputable people, who have acknowledged the forgery, in the same breath as basically telling me that anyone I source to you will be dismissed as racist, with implications that non-racist proponents of the forgery will too be saddled with a reason why they are uncredible - again, regardless whether they are right or wrong.

Also, I do not have to prove anything to you, as far as spoon feeding you results from reputable, respected individuals with an opinion and evidence to conclude the birth certificate is indeed a fake.

If at some point you did your due diligence with an open mind, you would already know there are a plethora of respectable - non-race hating individuals who support the forgery claims.

If you look for 5 minutes you can find many reputable sources, that is how I learned about the 'forgery' side of the story. I learned, in part, about the legal-citizen aspect through this same process.

I have yet to decide whether I believe 100% either way, but I have gotten to this point on my own, with an open mind and no agenda to have Obama confirmed as a citizen or non-citizen - though I am leaning toward non-citizen because of the refusal to disclose and the release of a fake birth certificate to assure Americans of his citizenship...



Speaking of the race card.... how is the good Rev. Jeremiah Wright? I am wondering who was in league with this guy for years and years... it's slipped my mind momentarily, do you know?

edit on 20-5-2012 by esteay812 because: tyops

I call people racist when they attack a half black president because he is black. The majority of the birthers are racist. The other ones are just misled sheep. But whatever, you don't have to defend yourself to me. I will always know.

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Anon009

Yes, when your in Harvard Law, all your time needs to be spent on fact checking the University's biopic of yourself.

But the wrong county? Come on hehe.... I'm glad they didn't put in he as a porn star, and let that ride for 17 years.

That is the most racist thing I ever seen, they assumed since he was black he was from Kenya too... Ya that got to be the reason...ya right

edit on 20-5-2012 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)

Hey, he may have been a porn star, for all we know.
His verifiable history is mostly blank, and what we have been given from his minions is muddled.

I know it might be hard for you to fathom, but a city and country are both nouns. When examining a factual mistake, do you say one mistake is larger than the next? Or do you simply say they are both mistakes?

Originally posted by butcherguy

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Anon009

Yes, when your in Harvard Law, all your time needs to be spent on fact checking the University's biopic of yourself.

But the wrong county? Come on hehe.... I'm glad they didn't put in he as a porn star, and let that ride for 17 years.

That is the most racist thing I ever seen, they assumed since he was black he was from Kenya too... Ya that got to be the reason...ya right

edit on 20-5-2012 by Xtrozero because: (no reason given)

Hey, he may have been a porn star, for all we know.
His verifiable history is mostly blank, and what we have been given from his minions is muddled.

So now he is a Kenyan pornstar with minions.

Props for imagination I guess.

Originally posted by spoor

Originally posted by esteay812
I'd like to see a truly authentic document provided by a legitimate source. A certified document that is at least in photo form and not a scanned copy or a digital copy. You know what I am referring to? A document that can be physically handled and examined for authenticity.

You mean like this one

factcheck.org...

It has been available for nearly 4 years, you must not have done much research to have missed it - Exactly what research did you do to look for it?

The article you linked credits Jerome Corsi.
Here is his wikipedia page
en.wikipedia.org...
you don't have to go very far to discredit this guy. First paragraph "Both books, the former written in 2008 and the latter in 2004, attacked Democratic presidential candidates and were criticized for including numerous inaccuracies.[3][4][5]"

So... anyone else?

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You deflected from the point there, the lack verifiable information about the man, particularly the college years.

That is why imagination is used for that time period, there isn't a lot of hard info to go on.

Originally posted by EarthCitizen07
reply to post by Anon009

 

Maybe the documents he produced are real. Who knows? How can you be certain they are? Why would his opposition go through all that trouble to discredit him if they knew they had no legs to stand on? Normally where there is smoke there is also a fire.

I advise you to read up on neo-conservative strategy. Its basically a murky version of Strausism, where they have to create nightmarish scenarios that are not even grounded in reality. It has become a game of, he who has the biggest imagination shall rule.

Why discredit Obama? Are you actually asking WHY someone who doesn't like Obama could possibly want to discredit him or make up false information? Come on, wake up.

reply to post by Anon009

So now he is a Kenyan pornstar with minions.

BTW, who said that?

It wasn't me.
But then you were aware of that.

Originally posted by butcherguy

Hey, he may have been a porn star, for all we know.
His verifiable history is mostly blank, and what we have been given from his minions is muddled.

Here is the true deal with this guy....

If he wrote about loosing his cherry and it was the only time in his life he had sex he would write it up as if he WAS a porn star.

That is the thing with him, he touches something and it is written as if he created it... I know people who live their lives like this, and we call them pathological liars.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon009

 

You deflected from the point there, the lack verifiable information about the man, particularly the college years.

That is why imagination is used for that time period, there isn't a lot of hard info to go on.

So your saying the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence

reply to post by Anon009

But whatever, you don't have to defend yourself to me. I will always know.

Now that is a talent that belongs in the Paranormal Studies forum!

Or the Health and Wellness forum.

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon009

 

So now he is a Kenyan pornstar with minions.

BTW, who said that?

It wasn't me.
But then you were aware of that.

I make it a point to quote who-ever I am replying to. Apparently ATS dosn't like it when we quote eachother though...

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon009

 

But whatever, you don't have to defend yourself to me. I will always know.

Now that is a talent that belongs in the Paranormal Studies forum!

Or the Health and Wellness forum.

Literacy isn't a talent.

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by butcherguy

Hey, he may have been a porn star, for all we know.
His verifiable history is mostly blank, and what we have been given from his minions is muddled.

Here is the true deal with this guy....

If he wrote about loosing his cherry and it was the only time in his life he had sex he would write it up as if he WAS a porn star.

That is the thing with him, he touches something and it is written as if he created it... I know people who live their lives like this, and we call them a pathological liars.

If you could just say what you just wrote out loud, I think even you can see the silliness of your own logic.

Originally posted by Anon009

So now he is a Kenyan pornstar with minions.

Props for imagination I guess.

Doesn't it piss you off that you need to defend him so much...

So really, we all believe he was born in HI, but he lied that he was from Kenya to get his college paid for, we get it... That is why they said he was from Kenya, because his records stated he was from Kenya. Where else would they get that information? Did they just pull it out of their butts?

We will never know..schools like Harvard will not let out information that might be embarrassing to them...especially when it is the POTUS that was from their school.

Originally posted by Anon008

Originally posted by butcherguy
reply to post by Anon009

 

You deflected from the point there, the lack verifiable information about the man, particularly the college years.

That is why imagination is used for that time period, there isn't a lot of hard info to go on.

So your saying the absence of evidence is the evidence of absence

Hmmmm.
Not sure what you are saying here.
'the absence of evidence' is not one of 'my sayings'.

Originally posted by Xtrozero
but he lied that he was from Kenya to get his college paid for, we get it.

No you dont get it, that claim was an April fool's joke that silly birthers keep falling for!

Originally posted by Xtrozero

Originally posted by Anon009

So now he is a Kenyan pornstar with minions.

Props for imagination I guess.

Doesn't it piss you off that you need to defend him so much...

So really, we all believe he was born in HI, but he lied that he was from Kenya to get his college paid for, we get it... That is why they said he was from Kenya, because his records stated he was from Kenya. Where else would they get hat information? Did they just pull it out of their butts?

We will never know..schools like Harvard will not let out information that might be embarrassing to them...especially when it is the POTUS that was from their school.

It doesn't piss me off, but it does annoy me to see what could be a productive member of society succumb to the nightmares of demagogues.
I was entertaining the hypothetical that it COULD be for a student loan, which someone had remarked was WORSE than lie'ing when running for POTUS. They are two completely seperate scenarios, both of which are likely false.
And yes, they just pulled it from their glorious talk holes.