CHART: Economy Has Recovered All Private Sector Jobs Lost Since Obama Took Office

I take these charts like I take weather fore casts! You are told what They think but stepping outside and looking up paints an entirely different picture!

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
well that is a load of bs.
i had to close my shop, and me and my employees were out of work.
me and two others still haven't found jobs yet.

Not being rude or anything, but how exactly can you link what happened with your business with Obama in office? A business doesn't close from one day to the other. Usually, the business starts struggling a couple of years before, and finally it runs out of money, and closes. Please explain.

reply to post by ajay59


Well considering that the real unemployment rate is above 15% or higher, according to
to Shadow Stats, the OP data is bad magic.

And the secretary of Labor says Obama is going to lead us
straight into a Great Depression!

Secretary of Labor Elaine Chao

"America could be headed toward another Great Depression"
www.newsmax.com...

the “real unemployment” rate –

Chao claimed the real unemployment rate is now nearly 16 percent

reply to post by Blackmarketeer


I have my own problems with some of Obama's policies, but what I do not do is lie to myself about the fact that this economic collapse was decades in the making. Bush was in office through the lion's share of the downfall, which was from 2001-2007 (officially). This is the beauty of being registered non-partisan. I don't have any party lines or party talking points to spew. I use my own mind and make decisions issue by issue.

You don't have to like Obama, and you free to apply whatever conspiracy theory gets your rocks off, but Obama didn't cause this crash, and he certainly has ZERO control over global oil futures (gas prices). Anyone who says that must have forgotten that Bush was in office during the 2008 gas price spike. Fox News and everyone in the government was telling the world that Bush has no control over such things. Fast forward to 2012, and Fox/Right Wingers are blaming Obama for global oil futures pricing. Sounds about right.

As someone who's been able to sit back and watch the two parties in action as a non-partisan, I have to say that the right in this country is guilty of so much shillery, propaganda and degrading of the entire government structure via their disgusting rhetoric, that it makes my stomach turn. Anyone who thinks Romney is going to sit on that thrown and not pander to every major corporation on the planet is sorely mistaken. This guy wouldn't know how to have a conversation with or empathize with an average citizen if someone gave him a script to read.

Think Progress, the source of the OP's chart, is a far left, propaganda spewing, bomb throwing website and cannot be considered reliable. I would recommend ZeroHedge for current worldwide economic information. That site has really been absolutley phenomenal in tracking the ins and outs of this worldwide crisis. Anybody who says the US economy is getting better when it's national debt is ballooning by 5 billion a day cannot truly be taken seriously.

Same bs lies different president.

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What rock were you living under???? When Bush was president gas hit a peak of $4.60 a gallon, gas prices climbed and climbed under Bush and the Fox newsers kept up the facade that Bush had nothing to do with it. BIG OIL is responsible for those gas prices and we act like we have no clue why they are so high.

So come off your high horse, when gas prices were over $4 a gallon under Bush back in 2007/2008, adjusted for inflation that would be even higher today. Big Oil is manipulating gas prices with their cohorts on Wall Street.

You want to blame Obama for high gas prices?? Then let's hear you blame Bush for EVEN HIGHER gas prices during his term.

The chart presented in the thread is made from statistics. Everyone knows or should know that stats are easily manipulated. Considering the fact that they came from a government agency, in which the current administration is in control, I call bias! Just for an added kick, if Obama is in jail, (www.abovetopsecret.com...&addstar=1&on=14059317#pid14059317) he will not be able to run for anything and the same goes for Romney if proven responsible for the lawlessness happening in the caucuses! I have included the main topic in this post so what else besides "off topic" are you going to use to silence me this time?

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Think Progress, the source of the OP's chart, is a far left, propaganda spewing, bomb throwing website and cannot be considered reliable.

That is not the source, only a site that carried a copy of the article. The source is:

Private-Sector Jobs Bounce Back Under Obama

The source for the statistics is the Bureau of Labor Statistics, [utl=http://www.bls.gov]www.BLS.gov[/url], a PDF file is here: Employment from the BLS household and payroll surveys: summary of recent trends

Your ad-hominem attack on Thinkprogress.com doesn't in fact dispute the facts or data as presented.

Originally posted by duality90
reply to post by Blackmarketeer

 

What is the source of this? I think it's moronic to claim it was all because of Obama, but there is no doubt that some industries have not yet recovered - the legal industry, for instance. This is pretty much the worst time to become a lawyer or enter the industry ... ever.

Things are still not as they were.

Finally, some good news!

Originally posted by Blackmarketeer
reply to post by fockewulf190

 

Think Progress, the source of the OP's chart, is a far left, propaganda spewing, bomb throwing website and cannot be considered reliable.

That is not the source, only a site that carried a copy of the article. The source is:

Private-Sector Jobs Bounce Back Under Obama

The source for the statistics is the Bureau of Labor Statistics, [utl=http://www.bls.gov]www.BLS.gov[/url], a PDF file is here: Employment from the BLS household and payroll surveys: summary of recent trends

Your ad-hominem attack on Thinkprogress.com doesn't in fact dispute the facts or data as presented.

You nailed it. All the extreme right has left anymore is ad hominem attacks, straw man arguments and logical fallacy to back their blaming of everything on sitting POTUS. People don't understand that blaming Obama is a mechanism for redirecting the blame away from those who truly should own it: the thieves and liars on Wall Street, along with their bought and paid-for politicians. They sit back and point at one man, as if he has a magic control panel on his desk and controls everything from the price of milk at Wal-Mart to the jobs market.

I'd laugh at those people who still fall for divide-and-conquer politics in this country, if it wasn't so sad.

Wow, another liberal lie. That is largest load of election-year bullshirt that I've seen yet.

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Wow, another liberal lie. That is largest load of election-year bullshirt that I've seen yet.

I don't suppose you have the "real" data which refutes this chart do you? If you do, I sure would like to see it. If you don't, then you aren't doing your "party" any service by posting more meaningless rhetoric.

Originally posted by JeepEscape

Originally posted by AwakeinNM
Wow, another liberal lie. That is largest load of election-year bullshirt that I've seen yet.

I don't suppose you have the "real" data which refutes this chart do you? If you do, I sure would like to see it. If you don't, then you aren't doing your "party" any service by posting more meaningless rhetoric.

MY party? Which party would that be?

I have yet to see the information backing these charts. Graphs of household payroll surveys don't validate growth in the private sector, though they do correlate. What's the actual info they were based on? I understand they were from BLS, but what were the sizes of the surveys? The BLS has a tendency to "average" out information and call it national statistics when the factual information gathered only covers very small sample sizes in comparison.

Originally posted by hounddoghowlie
well that is a load of bs.
i had to close my shop, and me and my employees were out of work.
me and two others still haven't found jobs yet.

I don't see how one person's experience changes facts and raw data. These numbers are real. It doesn't mean enough jobs have been created. If you recall, toward the end of 2008, we were losibg 700k+ jobs per month. That leveled to near zero losses rapidly in 2009. We still have a ways to go to cancel out those jobs lost during the Bush administration (no blame, just timeline) plus, our population has grown, which means we need "more-more jobs" to be break even.
Has Obama ushered in an economic golden age? Absolutely not. Has the economy gotten worse since he tookooffice? Well, if you believe that despite the clear facts, it is not surprising you're out of work. A little education, effort, and social skills, coupled with relevant experience go a long way.

I've had 3 jobs since losing my job of 10 years toward the end of Bush's 2nd term. Left the first 2 for better opportunities. Those sitting unemployed for years should realize - maybe they're doing something wrong. There's plenty of jobs out there. If you're just sitting back waiting for the next pterodactyl trainer job to open upm well, enjoy my tax money. I guess someone needs to spend it, right?

Originally posted by Cuervo
reply to post by Blackmarketeer

 

Uh-oh... you are posting something positive. You know that's against the rules to most of our members, especially if it doesn't make Obama look bad.

The fact that our economy is actually getting better is a bitter pill for many people to swallow. The people who are unemployed are, of course, going to say it's not getting better simply because of their perspective.

well i hope that is certainly not true. surely everyone wan't the economy to get better. after all we are all american citizens supposed to be pulling for one another to better. i would however like to ask a question. for some reason i had it in my mind that most of president obama's jobs that were created actually came from the government. meaning the pay the people got were from tax dollars. is this a true or false statement? (this is the first i've heard about the private sector so i was curious)

reply to post by Blackmarketeer
Your kidding right, a web site called Think Progress help us battle he far right. Come on people are alot smarter than that.And are getting smarter everyday. One more thing the real bubble hasnt burst yet, 16 trillion in debt is just the tip of the iceberg.................tick ,tick ,tick ,tick and the bubble sees no party.

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please read my second post, reply to hangthetraitors, on page four. then you will see.
part time and minimum wage jobs do not replace the jobs and or small businesses that were closed .
and yes you are right, the problem started way before the bubble busted.
many business in the line of repairs we did were struggling way before 2008. i started seeing problems in 2005, contractors stopped bringing in things for repair, restaurants were putting off repairs longer and longer, many different items being scarped because it was not cost effective in their minds to repair. when they could go buy junk made in china at the box stores.
like i said the pres ant the only one blame, be it bush or obama.

and like i said that is bs because jobs that were lost are not the same jobs that have been replaced with.

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Nothing more then Election propaganda even GW bush used it and so did Clinton.